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Old 14 November 2010, 09:15 PM
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Trout, I have been invited to go trout fishing I think in the New Year some time, dates TBA. All I know is that there is a ghillie.

I always like something new, but know nothing. Suggestions?
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LOL. It is here: http://www.fishingnet.com/beats/dalguise.htm

So how does this work? You stay on the bank presumably? What makes the trout interested? What do you do if a trout bites? You put them back if <10"? You put them all back? Do their mouths get injured from being caught? How likely am I to catch something? Will I put a fish hook through some delicate part of my or someone else's anatomy by accident? I read in the medical books how to remove them LOL.

Any particular etiquette?

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Old 14 November 2010, 09:32 PM
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Lol, POTY above....so much Innuendo
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Originally Posted by john banks
Trout, I have been invited to go trout fishing I think in the New Year some time, dates TBA. All I know is that there is a ghillie.

I always like something new, but know nothing. Suggestions?
I work where there are 7 Trout fishing lakes. They are always busy. People can pick sporting or killing tickets.
Bloke last week landed a fish weighing 23lb. It was flipping hooooge.
They also have a tagged fish in a few lakes. You pay an extra £1 on the entrance fee and if you land the tagged, you can win up to £500, depending on how long the fish has been in the lake.
Most of the blokes book for Boxing day, as they have had enough of the family by then
Sorry, other than that I know nowt about the appeal, but like I said, it is always really busy
Old 14 November 2010, 09:50 PM
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will you be "stocky bashing" , ie pre stocked lake or pond, or fishing for real, ie river, stram etc.
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Link in post #3, real river.
Old 14 November 2010, 10:33 PM
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Hi John,

I have fished there! For salmon - didn't catch a thing.

Trout fishing there will not start until March and even then it will still be pretty cold and the trout will be deep and sluggish.

Trout fishing on a water like that will be fairly hard for the novice. It is fly fishing only - no worms or maggots there. If you have never done it before I would advise getting a little tuition before you go. A decent ghillie should also be able to help you on the day.

Is someone going to lend you tackle - you will need a fly fishing rod - they come in weight specifications - for this river a nice 5 or 6 will do - the rod will be 9 to 10 ft.

The good thing is that early in the season the fish will be close under the banks so you won't need to cast too hard.

Oh, you will also need waders as well.

Being blunt - as a complete novice on a water like Dalguise I would rate you chances as slim for catching something. But with a bit of research and back garden practice/tuition you will increase your chances.

When you hook a fish you pull it in steadily, letting it take line if it pulls very hard.

Whether it hurts it's mouth is a whole different philosophical argument.

Size limit is probably 10in.

Oh, and final comment at this stage. In the spring on the Tay there will be periods during the day when flies hatch off the water - a 'rise'. These are ephemeroptera and key part of the trouts diets. Trout will start taking these flies off the surface - 'rising' to them. This is the most likely time to catch them and with the right kind of fly drifted past the trout at this point you will get a savage tug as the trout grabs the fly. Or sometimes you can see them take if your flies are near the surface.

There is a very quick primer.

Here is a basic fly casting video.
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Another fishing video with different interest

Choose your fishing partner wisely
Old 14 November 2010, 11:08 PM
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Thanks! I thought it was going to be trout, but it may be salmon, is that easier or harder?
Old 14 November 2010, 11:13 PM
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If it is early in the New Year it will be salmon. Season starts on the Tay on January 15th!!!

It will be very cold and you can spin - which is easier - or harl from a boat - even easier as you just sit and wait.

Chances of catching a salmon in the spring on Dalguise as a novice? About the same as a production line G-TR finishing the N24 in the top ten, or even at all
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First thing to do is to learn how to cast a fly. Not that difficult but you need to learn the knack and initial tuition will prevent the natural mistakes that people always make.

An afternoon spent with an expert is time well spent.

Les
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Lead balloon time then!

Les
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Many thanks Les and Trout. I will return to this thread again and again!
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See it is possible for me to get involved in a thread that doesn't involve talking about Porsches or the nanny.






...oh, wait, dammit, did I say that with my outside voice!
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http://imcdb.org/vehicle_168574-Porsche-911.html Nanny likes Pork.
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I can find no objection to the nanny, or even talking about her.

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