bloody bendy buses...
25 March 2008, 01:58 PM
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bloody bendy buses...
Lets hope they go soon 
Voting in boris will achieve 2 things, getting rid of ken and the bloody bendy buses
BBC NEWS | Magazine | Can a simple bus be so hated?
Voting in boris will achieve 2 things, getting rid of ken and the bloody bendy buses
BBC NEWS | Magazine | Can a simple bus be so hated?
25 March 2008, 02:13 PM
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What is the problem with them? we have hundreds of them same as most European countries, why is it that Britain has problems and complains about nearly everything that the rest of europe takes for granted?
25 March 2008, 02:16 PM
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plonk them in London though and its a different story.
I have been to several cities in Germany and most of the streets there worked well for these buses.
Plus you cant miss the obvious deal that the makers made with Ken and TFL, bet that was a lovely backhander
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25 March 2008, 02:20 PM
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if you read the rest of the story, it seems bendy buses work well in OTHER cities in the UK, where the streets are not so narrow and the volume of traffic is not so bad.
plonk them in London though and its a different story.
I have been to several cities in Germany and most of the streets there worked well for these buses.
Plus you cant miss the obvious deal that the makers made with Ken and TFL, bet that was a lovely backhander
echo cookstars thoughts
plonk them in London though and its a different story.
I have been to several cities in Germany and most of the streets there worked well for these buses.
Plus you cant miss the obvious deal that the makers made with Ken and TFL, bet that was a lovely backhander
echo cookstars thoughts
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25 March 2008, 02:23 PM
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That article is wrong. Livingstone is phasing them out anyway it has been announced - mainly I suspect to steal Boris' thunder.
The problem with them is they just don't fit into a cramped Medieval street layout such as Central London has.
The problem with them is they just don't fit into a cramped Medieval street layout such as Central London has.
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25 March 2008, 02:49 PM
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Unfortunately London's streets remain a throwback to a time when horses were the prevalent mode of transport
25 March 2008, 08:40 PM
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We have them in Leeds, and along with the sheer bloody size and lack of manoeuvrability, the stupid New Labia Urban Transport Initiative has seen all the 4 mile long stops for these behemoths moved from convenient lay-by's which took them out of the flow of traffic whilst loading/unloading, to stopping slap bang in the middle of the road, blocking the road and impeding progress. If I chose to park my car in the flow of traffic I'm pretty sure Mr. Plod would have a word with me. They have also placed pedestrian reservations right by the stops meaning you have to cross completely into the oncoming traffic to even try to attempt a safe and valid pass. What p!$$e$ me off the most though is that they try and justify public transport with the green argument, and yet every one of these purple monstrosities I see outside of the 2 rush hours (730-9 and 430-6) is a 16 tonne 8mpg taxi for 1 or 2 people If they ran them every 10 minutes during the 3 peak hours, but then withdrew them and substituted them with small transit type minibuses during the off-peak hours I'd understand, but the polution per person per mile from these during those quieter times must outweigh their alleged benefit for the few hours they operate anywhere near their optimum capacity.
If they ran them every 10 minutes during the 3 peak hours, but then withdrew them and substituted them with small transit type minibuses during the off-peak hours I'd understand, but the polution per person per mile from these during those quieter times must outweigh their alleged benefit for the few hours they operate anywhere near their optimum capacity.
26 March 2008, 12:15 AM
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The last part, 'Measures used in Gloucester' .....
"A variety of measures were used for the following safety objectives.
For enforcement of speed limits:
• dedicated police team to increase enforcement activity
• laser speed gun
• in-car video equipment
• speed cameras (these were not operated under
a "Speed Camera Partnership arrangement)
To encourage drivers to drive at a more appropriate speed:
• road-side posters to advertise the number of
people prosecuted and the amount that they were fined
• traffic calming
• narrowing of space available for motor
vehicles creating better channelisation of
main road traffic through:
• cycle lanes
• central refuges
• central hatching
• build-outs
• widening of footpaths
• speed activated warning signs
• gateway feature at all main road entrances to
the city, highlighting the speed limit and its
enforcement
• publicity in the local press
To improve pedestrian safety in the city centre:
• pedestrianisation
To assist pedestrians to cross roads more safely:
• new Pelican crossings
• new Zebra crossings
• central refuges
• area-wide traffic calming
• narrowing of carriageway
• safer routes for children on their way to and from school
To assist pedestrians and cyclists to cross roads:
• new Toucan crossings
To encourage safer cycling:
• cycle lanes on main roads
• redesign of roundabouts
• area-wide traffic calming
Other measures were used to encourage drivers
to use the roads of the new hierarchy which were
appropriate for the journeys they were making.
These other measures were:
• Lengthening journey times on local distributor
and residential access roads by reducing the
speed of traffic, (mainly through traffic calming)
• Giving less time at traffic signals to traffic on
local distributor and residential access roads
• Installing pedestrian phases at traffic signals
and reducing the waiting time for pedestrians
at Pelican, Puffin and Toucan crossings.
• Taking space for car traffic by installing
central refuges and hatching, bus and cycle
lanes and fitting bus-priority receivers to
traffic signals, triggered by transponders on
the buses"
If you read the document you'll see that the whole thing is about pretending to consult widely but 'spinning' the results and publicity so that the 'planners' get what they want rather than the electorate.
Enjoy the read!
Dave
26 March 2008, 09:36 AM
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