bloody bendy buses...
Lets hope they go soon :mad:
Voting in boris will achieve 2 things, getting rid of ken and the bloody bendy buses BBC NEWS | Magazine | Can a simple bus be so hated? |
These things are a menace:mad: , I would love to see Ken burn to death in one of them :thumb:
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What is the problem with them? we have hundreds of them same as most European countries, why is it that Britain has problems and complains about nearly everything that the rest of europe takes for granted?
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Try driving through Hackney, they back up two or three to a stop and block the entire road.
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Take an entire cycle of a set of traffic lights to just get one of these to turn right.
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Originally Posted by Wurzel
(Post 7758580)
What is the problem with them? we have hundreds of them same as most European countries, why is it that Britain has problems and complains about nearly everything that the rest of europe takes for granted?
plonk them in London though and its a different story. I have been to several cities in Germany and most of the streets there worked well for these buses. Plus you cant miss the obvious deal that the makers made with Ken and TFL, bet that was a lovely backhander :mad: echo cookstars thoughts |
Originally Posted by SwissTony
(Post 7758588)
if you read the rest of the story, it seems bendy buses work well in OTHER cities in the UK, where the streets are not so narrow and the volume of traffic is not so bad.
plonk them in London though and its a different story. I have been to several cities in Germany and most of the streets there worked well for these buses. Plus you cant miss the obvious deal that the makers made with Ken and TFL, bet that was a lovely backhander :mad: echo cookstars thoughts |
Originally Posted by Wurzel
(Post 7758598)
we even have them in the one horse town I live in :D
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That article is wrong. Livingstone is phasing them out anyway it has been announced - mainly I suspect to steal Boris' thunder.
The problem with them is they just don't fit into a cramped Medieval street layout such as Central London has. |
YOU BENDER BENDER,YOU DRIVE ME ROUND THE BENDDDDDDDDDDD.I bet you cant fit a whole Double Decker in mouth in one go. ;)
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
(Post 7758607)
That article is wrong. Livingstone is phasing them out anyway it has been announced - mainly I suspect to steal Boris' thunder.
The problem with them is they just don't fit into a cramped Medieval street layout such as Central London has. knowing his style he is probably in 'consultation' with a view to bringing in new triple length ones that hold 250 people and only do 8MPH anyway :mad: |
Originally Posted by SwissTony
(Post 7758601)
well use the bloody horse then :mad: :p :D
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Originally Posted by Wurzel
(Post 7758580)
What is the problem with them? we have hundreds of them same as most European countries, why is it that Britain has problems and complains about nearly everything that the rest of europe takes for granted?
Unfortunately London's streets remain a throwback to a time when horses were the prevalent mode of transport:( |
That article sounds like the majority of problems are simply down to poor driving.
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We have them in Leeds, and along with the sheer bloody size and lack of manoeuvrability, the stupid New Labia Urban Transport Initiative has seen all the 4 mile long stops for these behemoths moved from convenient lay-by's which took them out of the flow of traffic whilst loading/unloading, to stopping slap bang in the middle of the road, blocking the road and impeding progress. If I chose to park my car in the flow of traffic I'm pretty sure Mr. Plod would have a word with me. They have also placed pedestrian reservations right by the stops meaning you have to cross completely into the oncoming traffic to even try to attempt a safe and valid pass. What p!$$e$ me off the most though is that they try and justify public transport with the green argument, and yet every one of these purple monstrosities I see outside of the 2 rush hours (730-9 and 430-6) is a 16 tonne 8mpg taxi for 1 or 2 people :mad: If they ran them every 10 minutes during the 3 peak hours, but then withdrew them and substituted them with small transit type minibuses during the off-peak hours I'd understand, but the polution per person per mile from these during those quieter times must outweigh their alleged benefit for the few hours they operate anywhere near their optimum capacity.
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.................and breathe..............:)
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thought you of all people would be in favour of Bender buses, Twonks.. or is that *twinks*?
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Originally Posted by corradoboy
(Post 7759608)
..... has seen all the 4 mile long stops for these behemoths moved from convenient lay-by's which took them out of the flow of traffic whilst loading/unloading, to stopping slap bang in the middle of the road, blocking the road and impeding progress. ...
The last part, 'Measures used in Gloucester' ..... "A variety of measures were used for the following safety objectives. For enforcement of speed limits: dedicated police team to increase enforcement activity laser speed gun in-car video equipment speed cameras (these were not operated under a "Speed Camera Partnership arrangement) To encourage drivers to drive at a more appropriate speed: road-side posters to advertise the number of people prosecuted and the amount that they were fined traffic calming narrowing of space available for motor vehicles creating better channelisation of main road traffic through: cycle lanes central refuges central hatching build-outs widening of footpaths speed activated warning signs gateway feature at all main road entrances to the city, highlighting the speed limit and its enforcement publicity in the local press To improve pedestrian safety in the city centre: pedestrianisation To assist pedestrians to cross roads more safely: new Pelican crossings new Zebra crossings central refuges area-wide traffic calming narrowing of carriageway safer routes for children on their way to and from school To assist pedestrians and cyclists to cross roads: new Toucan crossings To encourage safer cycling: cycle lanes on main roads redesign of roundabouts area-wide traffic calming Other measures were used to encourage drivers to use the roads of the new hierarchy which were appropriate for the journeys they were making. These other measures were: Lengthening journey times on local distributor and residential access roads by reducing the speed of traffic, (mainly through traffic calming) Giving less time at traffic signals to traffic on local distributor and residential access roads Installing pedestrian phases at traffic signals and reducing the waiting time for pedestrians at Pelican, Puffin and Toucan crossings. Taking space for car traffic by installing central refuges and hatching, bus and cycle lanes and fitting bus-priority receivers to traffic signals, triggered by transponders on the buses" If you read the document you'll see that the whole thing is about pretending to consult widely but 'spinning' the results and publicity so that the 'planners' get what they want rather than the electorate. Enjoy the read! Dave |
Originally Posted by hectic
(Post 7760000)
thought you of all people would be in favour of Bender buses, Twonks.. or is that *twinks*?
:D why ?? |
Originally Posted by CrisPDuk
(Post 7758677)
Thanks to the stirling efforts of the RAF many European planners were given (and took) the opportunity to redevelop their cities to suit modern transport ;)
Unfortunately London's streets remain a throwback to a time when horses were the prevalent mode of transport:( |
Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
(Post 7760775)
So, the blame for this could be laid squarely at the feet of the Luftwaffe, not doing a good enough job.;)
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LOL :D
first you blame Red Ken, then the labour party and now the Luftwaffe for bendy busses in London, who else is on the blame list ??? |
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