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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 08:18 AM
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Cool So 1 year and 7 months latter i get her back.

So finally i get my scooby back all fixed and ready to run in.

I received her back from ... and with in 3 weeks she was fixed by S.... C....

I'm not going to go in to any detail about how it got resolved as plenty of people have asked me too as it will more than likely get shut down again lol.

Any way ill post a picture and get some good ones over next couple of weeks.

I am thinking of selling her but depends how much fun she is after the finale map.

Only thing im not sure about is the equal length manifold. It has got rid of the scooby burble and now sounds like a bloody fiesta on steroids. Not sure if that will change after its been run in and mapped so will will see. lol










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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 08:22 AM
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Glad its sorted mate, bet you can't wait for this,

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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 08:25 AM
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hahah yes i really can not.
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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 09:09 AM
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I think i've missed something which might not be a bad thing. Plus well done for using the correct term manifold

And yes i think you should get rid of the equal length manifold if your keeping it, scooby without the burble is like a cat without a tail.
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I'm sure somebody on this will fill you in. I don't want to drag it all up again to be honest.

I'm just happy to have the car back.

What do you mean by the correct term manifold. Is it suppose to be called something else lol

Yes i think i may but it depends on how much power it gains by having it on there.

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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 10:31 AM
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headers is a common term for it
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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 10:41 AM
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Ahhhh yes so it is.
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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
headers is a common term for it
Isn't 'headers' an American term? I have always know it as manifold.
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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Raptorman
Isn't 'headers' an American term? I have always know it as manifold.
may have originated in america, no idea tbh
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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 12:51 PM
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Equal length manifold sounds great, like a big superbike higher up the revs. More torque and power, its a win win
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Originally Posted by banny sti
Equal length manifold sounds great, like a big superbike higher up the revs. More torque and power, its a win win
doesnt sound like a proper scoob and decent set of unequal will get same results performance wise anyway.

scoob must sound like a scoob lol
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
doesnt sound like a proper scoob and decent set of unequal will get same results performance wise anyway.

scoob must sound like a scoob lol
no just no tidgy, must sound different to everyone other dugga dugga scoob out there. I cant say anything tho as my screamers drown out the zorst note
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Originally Posted by banny sti
no just no tidgy, must sound different to everyone other dugga dugga scoob out there. I cant say anything tho as my screamers drown out the zorst note
no no no no, your doing it wrong!!!!!!!!


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Dose anybody have any experience with these manifolds and proven gains our not from them on a hatch. Iv had a look but cant seem to find much info on them.

If nothing else it looks nice and shiny hahah
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Nope headers is the American term. Exhaust manifold is the English/UK term which is the correct way.



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Correct, normally there's a lot of chav's that come on here using American phases due to there heavy use of Google and lack of experience with cars.

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Isn't 'headers' an American term? I have always know it as manifold.
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Correct, normally there's a lot of chav's that come on here using American phases due to there heavy use of Google and lack of experience with cars.
Well actually the original term was 'exhaust gas exit pipes', but it was too much of a mouth full, so Henry ford named them after the local black smith that manufactured all the early prototype exhaust parts , Manfred Fold.

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Someone's been using there search engine

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Well actually the original term was 'exhaust gas exit pipes', but it was too much of a mouth full, so Henry ford named them after the local black smith that manufactured all the early prototype exhaust parts , Manfred Fold.
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"Could you please check my Manfred Fold?" sounds like something you
ask the doctor.
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
doesnt sound like a proper scoob and decent set of unequal will get same results performance wise anyway.

scoob must sound like a scoob lol

So when you say "decent" unequals, please enlighten me?
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Originally Posted by JGlanzaV
So when you say "decent" unequals, please enlighten me?
ones that do not restrict performance
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
ones that do not restrict performance
Im just interested in what ones dont compared to equal, as Im yet to see any that can compete with equal length manifolds....

Mine out performed the RCM, and GT spec ones that were previously on the car by a considerable margin....
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What Gaines did you get?
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Originally Posted by jobegold@hotmail.co.uk
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What Gaines did you get?
20hp ish peak figures.

517hp unequals 535 equals. How ever mine are a little different to your average equals. Still you should be seeing some good gains from them though!

It wasn't the peak figures that made it worth while to be honest, its much more driveable with the equals on, it picks up sooner, revs harder and makes power all the way to redline. Where as on the unequals power was dropping off from 6k....

The way it drove really was night and day. And the fact it doesn't sound like your average chav wagon with a dustbin exhaust now is even better!
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could be worth me keeping it then with those figures.

Will have to see what it is like after the final map and run in.
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Originally Posted by JGlanzaV
Im just interested in what ones dont compared to equal, as Im yet to see any that can compete with equal length manifolds....

Mine out performed the RCM, and GT spec ones that were previously on the car by a considerable margin....
I asedk pat that very question when i was looking at them for mine and that was the responce mate. I suspect alot is setup given its one component of a big chain
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
I asedk pat that very question when i was looking at them for mine and that was the responce mate. I suspect alot is setup given its one component of a big chain
I don't know. The manifolds on a turbo car can make or break it. Think of those toyosports ones that lost 25hp yet are a copy of the gt spec ones.

Manifold design on scoobies seems to have just stopped, they are all the same design and everyone is just using the RCM etcones. In the states no one uses UEL headers because none of them can match a set of EL, in terms of peak figures, figures under the line, drivability etc.

Then you have companies like KillerB who ctually go out and do back to back testing to prove it. When was the last time you saw. RCM go out and test their manifolds against say the GT Specs etc. To show how great they are? They don't, because they are copies of an old design, that just kind of works, yet hasn't been advanced at all in the last 10yrs.... Uk tuning is so far behind the US.

I know I rave on about the killer b headers (and I will call them headers, as they came from the states) but unless you had driven my car before and after you would not beleieve the difference they made. To be able to feel a noticable change on 500+hp in the way it drives shows how much of a difference they did make.

EL is the way forward if you want the absolute best, no doubt in my mind
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Do Killer B make matching uppipes, too?!

If so, do they also make their own std position, twin scroll uppipe/EL headers kit?

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Do Killer B make matching uppipes, too?!

If so, do they also make their own std position, OEM-pattern, twin scroll uppipe/EL headers kit?
Killer B stuff is nothing like what we have over here at all....

Up pipe is V band connection, manifolds are tiny compared to anything over here. Im not saying the RCM stuff etc is bad, but if you are after the best, EL is the way to go.

Dont do twinscroll headers, although they will build what ever you ask them to if you can afford it! They do Low mount kits like the WRC cars etc and all sorts.

Chris is a top guy to deal with, however, if you are looking for cheap, then it is not the website for you lol
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Yeah, (without doing personal research) I'm aware it's very expensive kit (and for good reason, it seems).

Out of interest, what was the cost of your EL headers (and I'm guessing you have a S.S. uppipe of theirs, too)? PM if you want...
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