Some American kids went on the rampage again
22 March 2005, 12:32 PM
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Some American kid has gone on the rampage again
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" but Weise's fellow pupils said he was teased because he always dressed in black."
When will people get it through their heads that tormenting and teasing people is not pleasant and there will be repucussions.
When will people get it through their heads that tormenting and teasing people is not pleasant and there will be repucussions.
22 March 2005, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Sith
" but Weise's fellow pupils said he was teased because he always dressed in black."
When will people get it through their heads that tormenting and teasing people is not pleasant and there will be repucussions.
When will people get it through their heads that tormenting and teasing people is not pleasant and there will be repucussions.
22 March 2005, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Sith
" but Weise's fellow pupils said he was teased because he always dressed in black."
When will people get it through their heads that tormenting and teasing people is not pleasant and there will be repucussions.
When will people get it through their heads that tormenting and teasing people is not pleasant and there will be repucussions.
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Relatives told the St Paul Pioneer Press that Weise was a loner who usually wore black and was teased by other kids. Relatives told the newspaper his father committed suicide four years ago, and that his mother was living in a Minneapolis nursing home because she suffered brain injuries in a car accident.
Ms Hegstrom described Weise as a quiet boy who was into goth culture, listened to heavy metal music, wore "a big old black trench coat" and "talked about death all the time".
Relatives told the St Paul Pioneer Press that Weise was a loner who usually wore black and was teased by other kids. Relatives told the newspaper his father committed suicide four years ago, and that his mother was living in a Minneapolis nursing home because she suffered brain injuries in a car accident.
Ms Hegstrom described Weise as a quiet boy who was into goth culture, listened to heavy metal music, wore "a big old black trench coat" and "talked about death all the time".
22 March 2005, 05:03 PM
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I love it when this happens.
Millions upon millions of guns freely available, then for some reason they are shocked when lots of people get shot.
Then you get the "guns dont kill people people do" crew whining and moaning about their right to keep assault weapons for "home defence" cos you never know when you'll need to repel attackers who are not going to be scared by a hand gun, but are scared by a magazine fed machine gun.
Then the "Ban everything" brigade get up in arms.
The two go head to head for the next two years until some law is passed which appeases some (but usually not all).
Just in time for it to happen all over again. For that, please return to step one.
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Millions upon millions of guns freely available, then for some reason they are shocked when lots of people get shot.
Then you get the "guns dont kill people people do" crew whining and moaning about their right to keep assault weapons for "home defence" cos you never know when you'll need to repel attackers who are not going to be scared by a hand gun, but are scared by a magazine fed machine gun.
Then the "Ban everything" brigade get up in arms.
The two go head to head for the next two years until some law is passed which appeases some (but usually not all).
Just in time for it to happen all over again. For that, please return to step one.
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22 March 2005, 05:51 PM
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< Tries to look shocked and horrified and not totally desensitized by this kind of thing >
Oh
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Sorry, totally not suprised by this, and it is sad, but not exactly unexpected is it. The chap sounds a little bit depressed and had a few problems, so saw using a gun as a way to level the playing field a little. Extreme? quite possibly, unexpected? no, not really.
As said by others, no doubt Heavy Metal music and violent video games will be blamed as the cause of this, and TV and movies will be dragged over the coals as well. FFS, when are people going to realise that it's people doing these things and that the influences of things around us being used as the cause is just a substitue for looking at what the real cause of the issue might be.
Oh
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Sorry, totally not suprised by this, and it is sad, but not exactly unexpected is it. The chap sounds a little bit depressed and had a few problems, so saw using a gun as a way to level the playing field a little. Extreme? quite possibly, unexpected? no, not really.
As said by others, no doubt Heavy Metal music and violent video games will be blamed as the cause of this, and TV and movies will be dragged over the coals as well. FFS, when are people going to realise that it's people doing these things and that the influences of things around us being used as the cause is just a substitue for looking at what the real cause of the issue might be.
22 March 2005, 06:53 PM
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"The shooter was intent on something... I think there was an intent to kill."
Not at all supprised, and to be honest for some reason I can't blame him.
I have seen pupils make other kids lifes utter hell, just for the fun of it. Perhaps in away they got what they diserved.
Yes I understand that shooting someone is a tad extreme, but for this kid he must have exhausted every option.
23 March 2005, 08:36 AM
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and to be honest for some reason I can't blame him. . . . . . . . .
Perhaps in away they got what they diserved. . . . . . . . .
but for this kid he must have exhausted every option.
You are an utter moron.
23 March 2005, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 7 Foot
Exhausted every option!?!?!?!?!?!
You are an utter moron.
You are an utter moron.
As a stable and relatively stress-free adult I'm sure you could come up with one that's less, erm, drastic.
23 March 2005, 10:55 AM
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"Guns don't kill people, people do."
Yeah, but the gun kinda helps!
Interestingly, Canada has a similar percentage of gun ownership but nowhere near the levels of gun related crime as their neighbour. It just reaffirms my belief that the Americans are crazy!
Yeah, but the gun kinda helps!
Interestingly, Canada has a similar percentage of gun ownership but nowhere near the levels of gun related crime as their neighbour. It just reaffirms my belief that the Americans are crazy!
23 March 2005, 03:03 PM
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We have a few shootings here in Toronto, but nowhere near as many as in the USA. Why not? Probably because we're not all living in fear over here!
Yes there is probably one shooting at week that makes the news, but then what do you really expect in a large, multi-cultural city? Does it scare me? no? do I live in fear? no.
Yes there is probably one shooting at week that makes the news, but then what do you really expect in a large, multi-cultural city? Does it scare me? no? do I live in fear? no.
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Originally Posted by Sith
" but Weise's fellow pupils said he was teased because he always dressed in black."
When will people get it through their heads that tormenting and teasing people is not pleasant and there will be repucussions.
When will people get it through their heads that tormenting and teasing people is not pleasant and there will be repucussions.
However old you are you should be able to wear what makes you happy - kids copy what they see in the world around them.
Sadly I know I'm wasting my breath.......
23 March 2005, 04:05 PM
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I think farmer possibly meant that as a depressed kid, with no father and a seriously ill mother, suffering constant teasing and bullying, he felt he'd exhausted every option.
As a stable and relatively stress-free adult I'm sure you could come up with one that's less, erm, drastic.
As a stable and relatively stress-free adult I'm sure you could come up with one that's less, erm, drastic.
Be afraid - be very afraid...
You are an utter moron.
Good point.. Time to find out how old farmer is and how he was treated at school..
I am quite happy to take back what I give.
Farmer, tell me about your mother.....
Exhausted every option!?!?!?!?!?!
That is as a distressed child rather then a level headed adult.
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