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Old 03 September 2016, 07:30 AM
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Filled the bath with hot water (it was hot), came to top it up and the water was cold, went down stairs to check boiler and the plug socket is turned off .. how the ****? kids aren't here and misses is in bed .. I heard a noise before like something falling, assumed it was the dog, can plug sockets do that? turn themselves off? .. spooky
Old 03 September 2016, 08:35 AM
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If it's on a timer it can
Old 03 September 2016, 09:18 AM
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Old 03 September 2016, 11:03 AM
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Could it have tripped?
Old 03 September 2016, 11:34 AM
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I have had something similar - its as if the spring mechanism on the switch has been 'strained' in the 'on' position, so the slightest touch on the switch flicks it off. After a while its so far on the edge that it might flick by itself. Mine was a new socket and i just put it down to a slight manufacturing error.
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I've had that two-three days ago. about 1:30am when I was in bed fast asleep, I started to feel quite roasted. That woke me up. I engaged my ears to the sound, and realised that my central heating had come on at such odd time. I always disable the automatic timer for our heating in summer, so I was shocked. When I checked, the timer itself had decided to re-set to come on at that odd time and let the heating flow.

I did investigate, and could only make a connection with the electricity failure in our village experienced that day; prior to this occurring, because our gas heating is enabled by the electric panel. Saying that, I've been in this house for nearly 20 years and we've had electricity failures in past, but something like that never happened before. Timer never re-setted itself, it never came on from being 'off' by itself. I really don't know what caused that weird occurring, but I think it was the same night when I saw that news on some Russian beacon receiving strange signal from some planet about 9 light years away from us. Scientists were talking vaguely about the possibility of life over there, so I wonder whether the aliens caused it. I can't be sure.
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my toaster keeps moving too ..
Old 04 September 2016, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by pimmo2000
my toaster keeps moving too ..
My dustbin does. I'm sure I put it back in its cupboard after emptying it, but somehow, it walks out of the cupboard on its own accord. I just wish the aliens would empty it for me as well.

My sleeping cats keep moving, too. My cats are very stable at the night time, even when they're supposed to be nocturnal. How one moves from one end of my bed to other end is beyond me. I would sense if they walk across me; using me like a bridge. As I don't, I can't rule out the extra-terrestrial phenomenon
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Why is the boiler wired to a plug/socket; Should be on a double pole fused spur.

Still has a switch though....
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
Why is the boiler wired to a plug/socket; Should be on a double pole fused spur.

Still has a switch though....

Standard double socket with a standard plug .. I dunno I didn't install it
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I would look at replacing the switch. I've seen this where a switch on a water heater turned itself off. It eventually get to the point you couldn't physically switch it back on too.

I took it off and it Looked like it was down to poor connection when fitted. I'm no electrician but poor connection plus high draw device causes excess heat and damages switch and can turn them off. Not sure if it's a 'safety feature' or just a fortunate by product.

Either way, get it checked out IMO
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Also just seen the reply above!

Get a spark to sort a seperate switch.
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out of interest why would it need it's own switch? what's the difference?
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Originally Posted by pimmo2000
Standard double socket with a standard plug .. I dunno I didn't install it
Don't worry, I'll blame the plumber...I usually do.
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
Don't worry, I'll blame the plumber...I usually do.

To be fair he just plugged it into the same place the last one was ..
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Originally Posted by pimmo2000
To be fair he just plugged it into the same place the last one was ..
I wouldn't worry about it.

It needs to be on a switched fuse spurs because regulations state fixed equipment needs to be fed via a double Pole 3mm separation switch with overload protection. (Paraphrased)

How ever in the eyes of the rules a plug is also acceptable as isolation etc. It's not technically right but I wouldn't be worried about it.

Boilers (unless electric, which I presume this isnt) are not a high load equipment infact I imagine it will have a 3a fuse in it.

The switch sounds faulty (assuming it's not an rcd socket face?) Get it swapped out.
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When I throw my dirty clothes on the floor, they mysteriously disappear and re-appear clean in my wardrobe could it be connected??
Old 05 September 2016, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by JGlanzaV
I wouldn't worry about it.

It needs to be on a switched fuse spurs because regulations state fixed equipment needs to be fed via a double Pole 3mm separation switch with overload protection. (Paraphrased)

How ever in the eyes of the rules a plug is also acceptable as isolation etc. It's not technically right but I wouldn't be worried about it.

Boilers (unless electric, which I presume this isnt) are not a high load equipment infact I imagine it will have a 3a fuse in it.

The switch sounds faulty (assuming it's not an rcd socket face?) Get it swapped out.
My head exploded reading that
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