rmtypeR

Just a quick question...

I've been working in IT for approaching 2 years now, for a company who can probably best be described as providing "managed services" (rollouts, software installs, hardware break/fix etc). Is it normal in this line of work to receive an annual payrise to at least cover inflation? The reason I ask is that my managers attitude makes me feel that I should be grateful of them giving me a job and that asking for any kind of increase is being un-reasonable.

There are people here who haven't had a payrise for over 3 years!

bob269

Welcome to the real world

jamin

I dont think its down to the type of work specifically, it's down to the company how they structure their pay etc. (3 years is a long time to go without and if it were me I'd be out of there).

I last had what I would call a payrise over a year ago and recently the entire company got a 3% increase - which is really bugger all.

If I were you I'd have a moan and if nothing gets done leave, thats what I've always done

darlodge

If I didn't know any better, I'd guess you worked in the same company as me

We had to fight for 18 months for a pay rise, despite being promised one for a long time after our major project was complete. End result, a small increase, and 3 pissed off IT staff who are looking else where.

It will bite them in the *** at one stage.

Darren

T4molie

True but then your employer sounds like the kind of place that won't recognise that or care - all IMO

darlodge

True, They will wait until the **** hits the can and then go and get another contractor at £500 a day that don't turn up until midday and then go to lunch until 1 and then go home at 4pm.

Darren

J4CKO

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Darlodge, you been spying.....

darlodge

Never, honest guv.

Darren

Hanslow

At my last place (in software development) I never had a payrise for the last 4-5 years. Mind you, the state the company was in, we were happy to not have one if it meant we kept the company afloat and maintained a job. Ended up taking voluntary redundancy in the end and getting a job elsewhere.

I've never been one to go and ask for more money in a job, but some people do. Why not try and have a calm and frank discussion with your manager and try and find out what the criteria is for a payrise?

rmtypeR

Thanks for the replies guys. I had kind of taken it as read that you'd get a rise each year to keep pace with inflation, and then hope to negotiate any further increases on top of that.

Just found out this morning that there's a voluntary redundancy programme about to start here, which has got me thinking!

J4CKO

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Basically in IT, dont moan about it, ask once, ask twice then vote with your feet, dont waste your time (if you are any good and have marketable skills) somewhere that doesnt appreciate or reward you. Sometimes its not a bad idea to send a shot over the bows, book a morning off and arrive in a suit !

KiwiGTI

I haven't had a payrise in 6 years

Still not earning as much as I was in 1999/2000.

Hanley

Sounds like SCC to me

David_Wallis

scc = ******** - I hate their service! Computacenter are much better

Hanley

I was outsourced to SCC for a while....what a nightmare company to work for!!!

rmtypeR

Funny you should say that...

Hanley

I've heard this before in SCC.

As long as Peter Rigby makes millions everyone else can go to hell!!!

Best thing I ever done was leave them and go contracting

Monkeybone

I'm not with an IT company, but in their dept. As a dept we are on a diff pay system to teh rest of the company, but generally company wide we get a cost of living increase each year. This is usually between 3 and 3.5%. Then there's your "performance" related increase which if you hit the target you can get an extra 3-6%. My last rise a month or so ago was around 9%, but then the pay isn't great to start with.

I'd love to go contracting

DrEvil

SCC must be really bad then! CC are dire!

Puppetmaster

Just been given 11% over 3 years....
5% the first year and 3% the two consequetive years....
then again... company I work for is absolutely awful

scoob_babe

The biggest payrise you'll probably ever get will be by changing job.

Hanslow

Wasn't for me

MIRP !

I worked for CC, after 9 months I had my induction then left a month later. If you aren’t at HQ they don’t care… I foolishly hoped for a carrier with them...

AllanB

I thought you guys were talking about DSGi / PCWB as we rarely get inflationary pay rises.

Thats said a lots being done apart from just money to keep people happy.


AllanB

Hanley

The biggest payrise you get is by going contracting

rmtypeR

I started off contracting, and am on the verge of going back to it now. I lost about £300 a month after tax buy going permanent!

Re: the payrise... it's more the principal not the money as the saying goes. I was told that I wouldn't get the usual pay "review" last January as I hadn't been permanent with them for a year. That, they said, would come in June when I'd been there for 12 months. Despite reminding them on about 5 different occasions since then, still nothing!

Anyway, that's about all I have to say now, thanks for all your replies. And as J4CKO mentioned above, I'm not going to moan about it anymore. Final thought though, a quote from my induction with them...

"SCC are a family company - be part of the family" FPMSL

every1sgottablue1

The expression " Fat Cats " comes to mind!