Rear diff issue
11 July 2020, 01:37 PM
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11 July 2020, 06:51 PM
#32
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You Sir are deluded the sticker gives every piece of information that is needed regarding the drivetrain. Now I don't type so people get short straight to the point answers if they don't like them they don't have to read them.
I have hundreds of workshop manuals on paper and on the computer all backed up so not to loose them which have taken years and years to acquire. I do not need to explain to anyone where or how I got the information if they want to use it fair enough if not that's ok.
I am not a teacher so I do not have to explain myself or teach/explain every last detail to people.
As for a crossover between a r160 and an r180 there isn't a crossover two totally different setups.
Most of my knowledge comes from working on Subaru's from the Legacy era on and is experience related not what people according to yourself want to see proof of where I got it from.
You say the r180 was used on numerous non dccd vehicles which it was but they aren't Subaru's so you may look into that.
Your smart alec post 24 started this conversation by basically saying I was lying.
The information the op was given is correct and if he wishes to use it all well and good if not I've wasted my time.
Now you've been a forum member since 2017 and all of a sudden become a very active and informative member can't really understand where all your expertise has come from in such a short time.
Regards.
I have hundreds of workshop manuals on paper and on the computer all backed up so not to loose them which have taken years and years to acquire. I do not need to explain to anyone where or how I got the information if they want to use it fair enough if not that's ok.
I am not a teacher so I do not have to explain myself or teach/explain every last detail to people.
As for a crossover between a r160 and an r180 there isn't a crossover two totally different setups.
Most of my knowledge comes from working on Subaru's from the Legacy era on and is experience related not what people according to yourself want to see proof of where I got it from.
You say the r180 was used on numerous non dccd vehicles which it was but they aren't Subaru's so you may look into that.
Your smart alec post 24 started this conversation by basically saying I was lying.
The information the op was given is correct and if he wishes to use it all well and good if not I've wasted my time.
Now you've been a forum member since 2017 and all of a sudden become a very active and informative member can't really understand where all your expertise has come from in such a short time.
Regards.
Pooolq relax, you have done nothing wrong and didn’t create anything. You will always get differing views and opinions on sites like this. It is what it is. I hope if you buy another used diff, it is a straight swap and fault free. That would be the best outcome all round and most would wish for the same.
“1509joe“
First of all lets get something straight. I absolutely did not say you were “lying”, You are doing what many do in a discussion (you do view this as a discussion not a fight right?). You are manipulating words to suit your own version of events I said the information was misleading. It is FACT. All this over a simple statement made by me pointing out a FACT, really is it needed? Is your ego truly that fragile?
The OP asked YOU how you came to your conclusion (he asked for some sort of fact based evidence). I assume but I could be wrong (see I can admit I may be wrong) he asked this so he could assure himself the information is valid.
Is your real name “Will Hunting” by any chance? You now suggest your an Oracle and suggest you have a wealth of knowledge because you SAY SO! The OP asked how you came to your conclusion. You can see the flaw in your stance right? I don’t know you and you do not know me. I am getting a clearer picture as to who you MAY be BUT I COULD BE WRONG!
Your “technical library” needs updating as does Your wealth of experience. You seem to of missed out “Subaru Impreza WRX STI Type UK”. Specifically the non DCCD Newage models. Think the clue is in description “Subaru” I’m sure you can see that right?
Grow up bud. The OP just said himself If he buys a diff he still won’t know what state it’s in and he still won’t know 100% if it is a direct replacement. Did you miss the bit where the garage mentioned “it may be uprated”? A CAVEAT! And that to clarify they would need open it up! Not always strictly true but that would involve getting into engineering techniques I suspect are wasted if I explain them to you.
So it potentially won’t be a direct replacement then will it? Or do you require the word “modified” and “modification” explained also?
Correct i’ve been a member since 2017 on the face of it. What you failed to realise (and I have mentioned in other posts) I lost all my old login details so started again. You see the thing is (yet again) if you want to express an opinion It really is best to have as many facts available as possible. It makes your input more likely valid.
Could there be an obvious reason why I would be on here more recently? Would there be an obvious reason why many people would have a bit more spare time right now?
I never claimed to know it all did I? I believe I made it pretty clear to really make an informed opinion YOU NEED MORE INFORMATION. You claiming a sticker is the answer to everything yet again is frankly child like.
I have mentioned in other posts (amongst others) my background is traditionally engineering (take the time to check) You say you have years worth of documents, folders, files etc. In engineering there are a few basic principles you follow. I learned them 24 years ago now and they have seen my right ever since. You generally stick by them because they exist for a reason!
The advice you are giving and the reasons you claim to be correct, even though you have had the opportunity to go away and reconsider go against just about all of them! Also if you truly believed yourself to be enlightened you would never pass up the chance to learn something and question yourself from an opportunity presented to you. that’s an absolute fundamental in many many things (not just engineering).
That leads me to believe the reality is your talking out of your **** and not willing to see your own and your advices flaws Your guidance is not based on self learnt lessons, experience, LEARNING FROM MISTAKES! It is based on nothing more than insufficient, inaccurate and incomplete documentation and not SOUND ENGINEERING PRINCIPLES OR EXPERIENCE that you can actually demonstrate. In some instances it’s clearly the opposite.
There is not a trusted professional on this site or any in numerous professions that would dish out “advice” without wanting far more detail first. Most (would and do) insist on placing a “caveat” on any guidance given that “it would require further investigation”. Because to simply comment blindly on something without physically seeing it in the flesh can lead to avoidable issues further down the line. You can go through a process of elimination, make comparisons and compare across a model range, work from known good databases, technical drawings etc but the reality is that is predominately theory, not practice. THE THEORY HAS ALREADY BEEN QUESTIONED! Practically an answer is still outstanding in this example, you can see that right?
you also decided that because I used the term “cross over” I must be in some way incorrect right? There have been numerous terms banded about over the years in differing sectors of engineering as they best suit the various requirements, design briefs and ultimately the usability of a set component. On many occasions it’s just “it words”. Please correct me if I am wrong but I don’t believe your work shop manuals cover all of these do they?
You commented on wasting your time. I assume you can see that your time is no more precious than anyone else right? Some may suggest to present some sort of valid evidence in the first place could/would of prevented this right? Saved you time correct? The very reason I wished the OP “good luck” in the first place is because I suspected (but I could of been wrong) that to mention the information you had passed on was not entirely accurate and misleading, added to the fact you did not correct it once asked would lead to this. In this instance I was correct.
Can you see where I am going with this?
As a general rule of thumb most people like to try and help (where possible). But when you ask people for advice, usually (but not always) it is because you are unsure or have no/limited working knowledge on a subject yourself. Usually (but not always) you seek to get assurances that the information you are considering to influence the outcome is valid. That usually leads to further questions. You APPEAR to be “one of those guys” that doesn’t like being questioned. You are absolutely correct you do not need prove anything.’But to be a trusted source of Information most people are happy to do so until such a time their reputation proceeds them. So if your stance is you are happy giving out advice, but not happy to substantiate it in anyway it could be wise to stop.
To make it very clear I by no means think I am a better person than you, more informed, my views or opinions more valid than yours. I simply don’t think this warranted as according to you “I am nit picking” and you don’t like (it appears) the fact I counted it. Who is the one trying to impose their view on others here?
Because I try and treat people as I wish to be treated in return I will leave my parting input as positives for you (again I don’t always manage this and I can admit I get it wrong from time to time). I can also admit I am aware I can be sarcastic at times (sorry in advance if it appears that way).
If you were to look at it simplistically and nothing more than a paper work exercise, you did indeed pass over the correct information (working off the limited and still not confirmed facts from the beginning).
You are indeed correct again you do not need teach anyone anything (I’m not sure who that best serves though if I’m honest). I also agree wholeheartedly with YOUR statement “you are not a teacher”.
You may also be of the belief that “your dad is bigger than my dad”. There is a very very high probability you would be correct (if you chose to question such a thing).
You can, if you wish take your ball home so others can’t play with it. Your free to do so.
I suspect (but don’t know) you may try and suggest that if I have a background in engineering why would I say “personally I would get my diff refurbed” and I went on to explain the reasons why. Simple. I am more than happy I can do this myself and not need farm the work out. But I am not the OP am I. But if you wish to look at it in a simplistic manner YOU WOULD BE CORRECT.
So that’s now 5 times “you would/could be correct”. I hope your ego is restored.
I will happily read any reply you make and I can assure you regardless of content I won’t reply. You will absolutely get the last word (I suspect, but I could be wrong you are one of those people who feels you “win” a “discussion” by doing so).
Again, have a great weekend.
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11 July 2020, 10:54 PM
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Pooolq relax, you have done nothing wrong and didn’t create anything. You will always get differing views and opinions on sites like this. It is what it is. I hope if you buy another used diff, it is a straight swap and fault free. That would be the best outcome all round and most would wish for the same.
“1509joe“
First of all lets get something straight. I absolutely did not say you were “lying”, You are doing what many do in a discussion (you do view this as a discussion not a fight right?). You are manipulating words to suit your own version of events I said the information was misleading. It is FACT. All this over a simple statement made by me pointing out a FACT, really is it needed? Is your ego truly that fragile?
The OP asked YOU how you came to your conclusion (he asked for some sort of fact based evidence). I assume but I could be wrong (see I can admit I may be wrong) he asked this so he could assure himself the information is valid.
Is your real name “Will Hunting” by any chance? You now suggest your an Oracle and suggest you have a wealth of knowledge because you SAY SO! The OP asked how you came to your conclusion. You can see the flaw in your stance right? I don’t know you and you do not know me. I am getting a clearer picture as to who you MAY be BUT I COULD BE WRONG!
Your “technical library” needs updating as does Your wealth of experience. You seem to of missed out “Subaru Impreza WRX STI Type UK”. Specifically the non DCCD Newage models. Think the clue is in description “Subaru” I’m sure you can see that right?
Grow up bud. The OP just said himself If he buys a diff he still won’t know what state it’s in and he still won’t know 100% if it is a direct replacement. Did you miss the bit where the garage mentioned “it may be uprated”? A CAVEAT! And that to clarify they would need open it up! Not always strictly true but that would involve getting into engineering techniques I suspect are wasted if I explain them to you.
So it potentially won’t be a direct replacement then will it? Or do you require the word “modified” and “modification” explained also?
Correct i’ve been a member since 2017 on the face of it. What you failed to realise (and I have mentioned in other posts) I lost all my old login details so started again. You see the thing is (yet again) if you want to express an opinion It really is best to have as many facts available as possible. It makes your input more likely valid.
Could there be an obvious reason why I would be on here more recently? Would there be an obvious reason why many people would have a bit more spare time right now?
I never claimed to know it all did I? I believe I made it pretty clear to really make an informed opinion YOU NEED MORE INFORMATION. You claiming a sticker is the answer to everything yet again is frankly child like.
I have mentioned in other posts (amongst others) my background is traditionally engineering (take the time to check) You say you have years worth of documents, folders, files etc. In engineering there are a few basic principles you follow. I learned them 24 years ago now and they have seen my right ever since. You generally stick by them because they exist for a reason!
The advice you are giving and the reasons you claim to be correct, even though you have had the opportunity to go away and reconsider go against just about all of them! Also if you truly believed yourself to be enlightened you would never pass up the chance to learn something and question yourself from an opportunity presented to you. that’s an absolute fundamental in many many things (not just engineering).
That leads me to believe the reality is your talking out of your **** and not willing to see your own and your advices flaws Your guidance is not based on self learnt lessons, experience, LEARNING FROM MISTAKES! It is based on nothing more than insufficient, inaccurate and incomplete documentation and not SOUND ENGINEERING PRINCIPLES OR EXPERIENCE that you can actually demonstrate. In some instances it’s clearly the opposite.
There is not a trusted professional on this site or any in numerous professions that would dish out “advice” without wanting far more detail first. Most (would and do) insist on placing a “caveat” on any guidance given that “it would require further investigation”. Because to simply comment blindly on something without physically seeing it in the flesh can lead to avoidable issues further down the line. You can go through a process of elimination, make comparisons and compare across a model range, work from known good databases, technical drawings etc but the reality is that is predominately theory, not practice. THE THEORY HAS ALREADY BEEN QUESTIONED! Practically an answer is still outstanding in this example, you can see that right?
you also decided that because I used the term “cross over” I must be in some way incorrect right? There have been numerous terms banded about over the years in differing sectors of engineering as they best suit the various requirements, design briefs and ultimately the usability of a set component. On many occasions it’s just “it words”. Please correct me if I am wrong but I don’t believe your work shop manuals cover all of these do they?
You commented on wasting your time. I assume you can see that your time is no more precious than anyone else right? Some may suggest to present some sort of valid evidence in the first place could/would of prevented this right? Saved you time correct? The very reason I wished the OP “good luck” in the first place is because I suspected (but I could of been wrong) that to mention the information you had passed on was not entirely accurate and misleading, added to the fact you did not correct it once asked would lead to this. In this instance I was correct.
Can you see where I am going with this?
As a general rule of thumb most people like to try and help (where possible). But when you ask people for advice, usually (but not always) it is because you are unsure or have no/limited working knowledge on a subject yourself. Usually (but not always) you seek to get assurances that the information you are considering to influence the outcome is valid. That usually leads to further questions. You APPEAR to be “one of those guys” that doesn’t like being questioned. You are absolutely correct you do not need prove anything.’But to be a trusted source of Information most people are happy to do so until such a time their reputation proceeds them. So if your stance is you are happy giving out advice, but not happy to substantiate it in anyway it could be wise to stop.
To make it very clear I by no means think I am a better person than you, more informed, my views or opinions more valid than yours. I simply don’t think this warranted as according to you “I am nit picking” and you don’t like (it appears) the fact I counted it. Who is the one trying to impose their view on others here?
Because I try and treat people as I wish to be treated in return I will leave my parting input as positives for you (again I don’t always manage this and I can admit I get it wrong from time to time). I can also admit I am aware I can be sarcastic at times (sorry in advance if it appears that way).
If you were to look at it simplistically and nothing more than a paper work exercise, you did indeed pass over the correct information (working off the limited and still not confirmed facts from the beginning).
You are indeed correct again you do not need teach anyone anything (I’m not sure who that best serves though if I’m honest). I also agree wholeheartedly with YOUR statement “you are not a teacher”.
You may also be of the belief that “your dad is bigger than my dad”. There is a very very high probability you would be correct (if you chose to question such a thing).
You can, if you wish take your ball home so others can’t play with it. Your free to do so.
I suspect (but don’t know) you may try and suggest that if I have a background in engineering why would I say “personally I would get my diff refurbed” and I went on to explain the reasons why. Simple. I am more than happy I can do this myself and not need farm the work out. But I am not the OP am I. But if you wish to look at it in a simplistic manner YOU WOULD BE CORRECT.
So that’s now 5 times “you would/could be correct”. I hope your ego is restored.
I will happily read any reply you make and I can assure you regardless of content I won’t reply. You will absolutely get the last word (I suspect, but I could be wrong you are one of those people who feels you “win” a “discussion” by doing so).
Again, have a great weekend.
Pooolq relax, you have done nothing wrong and didn’t create anything. You will always get differing views and opinions on sites like this. It is what it is. I hope if you buy another used diff, it is a straight swap and fault free. That would be the best outcome all round and most would wish for the same.
“1509joe“
First of all lets get something straight. I absolutely did not say you were “lying”, You are doing what many do in a discussion (you do view this as a discussion not a fight right?). You are manipulating words to suit your own version of events I said the information was misleading. It is FACT. All this over a simple statement made by me pointing out a FACT, really is it needed? Is your ego truly that fragile?
The OP asked YOU how you came to your conclusion (he asked for some sort of fact based evidence). I assume but I could be wrong (see I can admit I may be wrong) he asked this so he could assure himself the information is valid.
Is your real name “Will Hunting” by any chance? You now suggest your an Oracle and suggest you have a wealth of knowledge because you SAY SO! The OP asked how you came to your conclusion. You can see the flaw in your stance right? I don’t know you and you do not know me. I am getting a clearer picture as to who you MAY be BUT I COULD BE WRONG!
Your “technical library” needs updating as does Your wealth of experience. You seem to of missed out “Subaru Impreza WRX STI Type UK”. Specifically the non DCCD Newage models. Think the clue is in description “Subaru” I’m sure you can see that right?
Grow up bud. The OP just said himself If he buys a diff he still won’t know what state it’s in and he still won’t know 100% if it is a direct replacement. Did you miss the bit where the garage mentioned “it may be uprated”? A CAVEAT! And that to clarify they would need open it up! Not always strictly true but that would involve getting into engineering techniques I suspect are wasted if I explain them to you.
So it potentially won’t be a direct replacement then will it? Or do you require the word “modified” and “modification” explained also?
Correct i’ve been a member since 2017 on the face of it. What you failed to realise (and I have mentioned in other posts) I lost all my old login details so started again. You see the thing is (yet again) if you want to express an opinion It really is best to have as many facts available as possible. It makes your input more likely valid.
Could there be an obvious reason why I would be on here more recently? Would there be an obvious reason why many people would have a bit more spare time right now?
I never claimed to know it all did I? I believe I made it pretty clear to really make an informed opinion YOU NEED MORE INFORMATION. You claiming a sticker is the answer to everything yet again is frankly child like.
I have mentioned in other posts (amongst others) my background is traditionally engineering (take the time to check) You say you have years worth of documents, folders, files etc. In engineering there are a few basic principles you follow. I learned them 24 years ago now and they have seen my right ever since. You generally stick by them because they exist for a reason!
The advice you are giving and the reasons you claim to be correct, even though you have had the opportunity to go away and reconsider go against just about all of them! Also if you truly believed yourself to be enlightened you would never pass up the chance to learn something and question yourself from an opportunity presented to you. that’s an absolute fundamental in many many things (not just engineering).
That leads me to believe the reality is your talking out of your **** and not willing to see your own and your advices flaws Your guidance is not based on self learnt lessons, experience, LEARNING FROM MISTAKES! It is based on nothing more than insufficient, inaccurate and incomplete documentation and not SOUND ENGINEERING PRINCIPLES OR EXPERIENCE that you can actually demonstrate. In some instances it’s clearly the opposite.
There is not a trusted professional on this site or any in numerous professions that would dish out “advice” without wanting far more detail first. Most (would and do) insist on placing a “caveat” on any guidance given that “it would require further investigation”. Because to simply comment blindly on something without physically seeing it in the flesh can lead to avoidable issues further down the line. You can go through a process of elimination, make comparisons and compare across a model range, work from known good databases, technical drawings etc but the reality is that is predominately theory, not practice. THE THEORY HAS ALREADY BEEN QUESTIONED! Practically an answer is still outstanding in this example, you can see that right?
you also decided that because I used the term “cross over” I must be in some way incorrect right? There have been numerous terms banded about over the years in differing sectors of engineering as they best suit the various requirements, design briefs and ultimately the usability of a set component. On many occasions it’s just “it words”. Please correct me if I am wrong but I don’t believe your work shop manuals cover all of these do they?
You commented on wasting your time. I assume you can see that your time is no more precious than anyone else right? Some may suggest to present some sort of valid evidence in the first place could/would of prevented this right? Saved you time correct? The very reason I wished the OP “good luck” in the first place is because I suspected (but I could of been wrong) that to mention the information you had passed on was not entirely accurate and misleading, added to the fact you did not correct it once asked would lead to this. In this instance I was correct.
Can you see where I am going with this?
As a general rule of thumb most people like to try and help (where possible). But when you ask people for advice, usually (but not always) it is because you are unsure or have no/limited working knowledge on a subject yourself. Usually (but not always) you seek to get assurances that the information you are considering to influence the outcome is valid. That usually leads to further questions. You APPEAR to be “one of those guys” that doesn’t like being questioned. You are absolutely correct you do not need prove anything.’But to be a trusted source of Information most people are happy to do so until such a time their reputation proceeds them. So if your stance is you are happy giving out advice, but not happy to substantiate it in anyway it could be wise to stop.
To make it very clear I by no means think I am a better person than you, more informed, my views or opinions more valid than yours. I simply don’t think this warranted as according to you “I am nit picking” and you don’t like (it appears) the fact I counted it. Who is the one trying to impose their view on others here?
Because I try and treat people as I wish to be treated in return I will leave my parting input as positives for you (again I don’t always manage this and I can admit I get it wrong from time to time). I can also admit I am aware I can be sarcastic at times (sorry in advance if it appears that way).
If you were to look at it simplistically and nothing more than a paper work exercise, you did indeed pass over the correct information (working off the limited and still not confirmed facts from the beginning).
You are indeed correct again you do not need teach anyone anything (I’m not sure who that best serves though if I’m honest). I also agree wholeheartedly with YOUR statement “you are not a teacher”.
You may also be of the belief that “your dad is bigger than my dad”. There is a very very high probability you would be correct (if you chose to question such a thing).
You can, if you wish take your ball home so others can’t play with it. Your free to do so.
I suspect (but don’t know) you may try and suggest that if I have a background in engineering why would I say “personally I would get my diff refurbed” and I went on to explain the reasons why. Simple. I am more than happy I can do this myself and not need farm the work out. But I am not the OP am I. But if you wish to look at it in a simplistic manner YOU WOULD BE CORRECT.
So that’s now 5 times “you would/could be correct”. I hope your ego is restored.
I will happily read any reply you make and I can assure you regardless of content I won’t reply. You will absolutely get the last word (I suspect, but I could be wrong you are one of those people who feels you “win” a “discussion” by doing so).
Again, have a great weekend.
12 July 2020, 09:54 AM
#35
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Last edited by R666ORY+1; 12 July 2020 at 02:49 PM.
12 July 2020, 09:56 PM
#36
I'm very sorry I haven't had time to reply to your ludicrous post but we've been away at a local hillclimb event and have only got home.
You Sir either have an inferiority complex or you really need to go and see a doctor of some description cause there is something amiss with yourself.
The op needed the answer to a question which he got that's basically it.
Now for some unearthly reason you seemed to try and pick my posts to bits and tried to belittle me. The link you gave him was of no real use either cause it did not enlighten him to which rear diff he needed r160 or r180.
As for that mouthful of b******t I got halfway down it and stopped reading cause I picked out more inconsistences than enough so didn't bother reading the rest as it was laughable.
You obviously aren't very bright cause if you remember correctly I gave you one of my short replies nearly three years and you responded with what I would now call you.
https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...e-booster.html
Keep of the drink or dope and have a good evening
You Sir either have an inferiority complex or you really need to go and see a doctor of some description cause there is something amiss with yourself.
The op needed the answer to a question which he got that's basically it.
Now for some unearthly reason you seemed to try and pick my posts to bits and tried to belittle me. The link you gave him was of no real use either cause it did not enlighten him to which rear diff he needed r160 or r180.
As for that mouthful of b******t I got halfway down it and stopped reading cause I picked out more inconsistences than enough so didn't bother reading the rest as it was laughable.
You obviously aren't very bright cause if you remember correctly I gave you one of my short replies nearly three years and you responded with what I would now call you.
https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...e-booster.html
Keep of the drink or dope and have a good evening
03 August 2020, 11:00 PM
#38
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Hi, that's an interesting point, my local garage contacted a Subaru specialist and they suggested the same. The thing is that the noise definitely comes from the rear of the car, so I excluded the centre diff option. What do you reckon?
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