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Old Nov 29, 2016 | 01:56 PM
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This is getting out of hand! I'm actually Welsh although you would never guess it from my accent. Too long spent in England and dodgy schools to thank for that.
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Old Nov 29, 2016 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by BMWhere?
Absolutely I would have voted for remain, but not because I'm middle class!

My current life 100% depends on freedom to live and work in another EU country. Fortunately I've been here long enough that I am eligible to apply for German nationality, but I know other Brits here who don't! For me its very important to know what the situation is going be with regards to freedom of movement as it could determine whether I have to return to the UK, take German nationality, apply for working and residential visas etc.

Even the issue of taking German nationality is not a simple one. Germany doesn't normally allow dual-nationality. There is an exception for EU members where they will allow you to keep dual nationality for 1 other EU country. So as things stand I can take German nationality and keep my British nationality which is something I could live with. But what happens when the UK leaves is completely unknown - will my dual nationality still be recognised or will I have to give up my British nationality? Something I could not live with!
So we are saying that we don't know what is going to happen?

Who would of thought
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Old Nov 29, 2016 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
So we are saying that we don't know what is going to happen?

Who would of thought

Indeed, it could be exactly the same, but it could be worse. It won't be better, though.
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Old Nov 29, 2016 | 02:37 PM
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Indeed, it could be exactly the same, but it could be worse. It won't be better, though.
Why won't it be better?
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Old Nov 29, 2016 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
Why won't it be better?

For what he was talking about, we currently have dual nationality options and totally free movement of people and residency. Exactly how much better can that be? Are they going to offer free money and dancing girls?
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Old Nov 29, 2016 | 04:17 PM
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For what he was talking about, we currently have dual nationality options and totally free movement of people and residency. Exactly how much better can that be? Are they going to offer free money and dancing girls?
We are back to the question of how do we know?

AGAIN!

We offer free money to elements of society that have done **** all as a contribution to the UK Plc coffers, so no change.
Dancing girls are ten-a-penny on a Saturday night in most cities and towns too (in South Wales anyway ).

I am being flippant but you see the point.
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Old Nov 29, 2016 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
you can see where it is going - Boris talks of "having our cake and eating it"

we see it now on some MP's meeting notes "the plan is having our cake and eating it"

it is the mantra of the Gypo's, want everything, they just don't like paying or playing by any rules

you half expect us to turn up to the negotiations in a battered old Pajero (no MOT / Insurance - that's for mugs) towing a caravan

and giving away a free "tarmacking" of central Brussels
De ye like dags?
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Old Nov 29, 2016 | 05:13 PM
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meet our negotiating team - where they set out our stance


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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Geezer
Indeed, it could be exactly the same, but it could be worse. It won't be better, though.
And you know this categorically because....?

Come on, even you can see how silly your statement is...can't you?
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
meet our negotiating team - where they set out our stance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljPFZrRD3J8
Oh, I wish..........
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 08:59 AM
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sneaky frogs , cant blame em though

http://news.sky.com/story/french-reg...rexit-10677341
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
And you know this categorically because....?

Come on, even you can see how silly your statement is...can't you?

Read my reply, you'll see why.
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 03:27 PM
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UKIP take back control of grammar.

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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
UKIP take back control of grammar.


They all look very similar...cousins?
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by trails
They all look very similar...cousins?
Warren's the one on the far-right.
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 04:26 PM
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I see what you did there
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 04:36 PM
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Hes actually on the far left !
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Warren's the one on the far-right.
That was good.
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 05:24 PM
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to all but the most deluded it must be becoming clear that the Government have not got a scoobydoo what they are doing

hopelessly at sea

you hear news reporters talking of senior ministers having a "reality check"

What must this obvious drift look like to the UK's large international businesses who demand certainty and stability

their huff and bluster continually hitting the hard rocks of reality

their simple inability to offer certainties that businesses require

laughably promising stuff that is simply not in their gift to promsie

I wonder which one will be the first to say enough is enough - and push the "relocate" button

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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 11:50 PM
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Brexit boris happy for free movement of people


He's catching on now!
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Old Dec 1, 2016 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
meet our negotiating team - where they set out our stance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljPFZrRD3J8
That's the best thing I've seen in a while.

Fantastic, I love it.
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Old Dec 1, 2016 | 11:48 AM
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Oh dear, latest immigration numbers
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Old Dec 1, 2016 | 11:59 AM
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Lots Romanian/Baltic states , actually willing to work / get out bed in the morning
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Maybe that ukip, Nutter,will save the british 'worker' lol
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Old Dec 1, 2016 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
Lots Romanian/Baltic states , actually willing to work / get out bed in the morning
It's not the nationality, it's the number which is the problem.
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Old Dec 1, 2016 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
UKIP take back control of grammar.

So much wrongness

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Originally Posted by andy97
It's not the nationality, it's the number which is the problem.

The numbers were 650k people, but 'only' 284k were from the EU, so considering the UK government is in control of its borders for non EU nationals, what does that tell you about how well they will control immigration post EU?
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Originally Posted by Geezer
The numbers were 650k people, but 'only' 284k were from the EU, so considering the UK government is in control of its borders for non EU nationals, what does that tell you about how well they will control immigration post EU?
I bet most will be working in real jobs, paying tax and contributing in a few months too. The remainder are likely to be refugee's (a bit like the Jew's in WW2) or Commonwealth people.

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Old Dec 1, 2016 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Geezer
The numbers were 650k people, but 'only' 284k were from the EU, so considering the UK government is in control of its borders for non EU nationals, what does that tell you about how well they will control immigration post EU?
Simples 650K non Christian, non EU nationals
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Old Dec 1, 2016 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BMWhere?
Simples 650K non Christian, non EU nationals
Just over 300k left the UK.
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