So Brexit seems to be a good thing then.
#3182
I'm not going to contribute to this thread because no doubt it will be full of rage, mischaracterisations, doom, lies, nonsense, panic, ignorance and general infuriating cobblers.
#3183
Scooby Regular
#3184
Scooby Regular
pmsl, no one has corrected project fear again then i see.
The food thing is a none issue, it was a response to a 'civil unrest' question, to which of course there are plans in place to get food in the event of an emergency, this is part of the gov's normal planning and nothing to do with brexit, but that didn't stop the media jumping on it and blaming ti on brexit, plus you doom and gloomers lapped it up lol
It's bit like the plan to deal with a zombie horde that is in place, but i don;t think thats to do with brexit either?
The food thing is a none issue, it was a response to a 'civil unrest' question, to which of course there are plans in place to get food in the event of an emergency, this is part of the gov's normal planning and nothing to do with brexit, but that didn't stop the media jumping on it and blaming ti on brexit, plus you doom and gloomers lapped it up lol
It's bit like the plan to deal with a zombie horde that is in place, but i don;t think thats to do with brexit either?
#3185
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (11)
pmsl, no one has corrected project fear again then i see.
The food thing is a none issue, it was a response to a 'civil unrest' question, to which of course there are plans in place to get food in the event of an emergency, this is part of the gov's normal planning and nothing to do with brexit, but that didn't stop the media jumping on it and blaming ti on brexit, plus you doom and gloomers lapped it up lol
It's bit like the plan to deal with a zombie horde that is in place, but i don;t think thats to do with brexit either?
The food thing is a none issue, it was a response to a 'civil unrest' question, to which of course there are plans in place to get food in the event of an emergency, this is part of the gov's normal planning and nothing to do with brexit, but that didn't stop the media jumping on it and blaming ti on brexit, plus you doom and gloomers lapped it up lol
It's bit like the plan to deal with a zombie horde that is in place, but i don;t think thats to do with brexit either?
Meanwhile, back in the real world ...
#3186
Scooby Regular
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a myth that if we get a no-deal Brexit, the lorries will be backed up on the M20 as far as Swanley inside a week. The EU just wouldn't have the cojones to actually stick to the rules, if that would be the end result.
Meanwhile, back in the real world ...
Meanwhile, back in the real world ...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45007787
in case you missed it
#3187
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (11)
indeed back in the real world,
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45007787
in case you missed it
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45007787
in case you missed it
In case you missed it:
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/people/k....r%20Report.pdf
#3189
This is an oft repeated and highly misleading thing. The Germans won't be switching it off, it will just cost more! Admittedly to them as well as us, but Germany is committed to the EU dream, they won't let that stand in their way.
#3190
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
My involvement in a manufacturing company has decided on a plant in the EU and another one in the USA. The EU plant is service at existing supply whilst reducing costs, but the USA plant is for the massive market potential which they hope to tap into and hugely increase profits and turnover They've had a 25% increase in turnover from outside the EU last year alone
#3191
Scooby Senior
My involvement in a manufacturing company has decided on a plant in the EU and another one in the USA. The EU plant is service at existing supply whilst reducing costs, but the USA plant is for the massive market potential which they hope to tap into and hugely increase profits and turnover They've had a 25% increase in turnover from outside the EU last year alone
Now that Trump has ripped up most of the trade deals the US had and is engaging on a trade war with just about everyone else, its looking ever more likely a US base will only be useful for accessing the US market. For anything outside the US domestic market, the EU base could supply equally well at the same tariffs that the US exports would have to pay, particularly with the new Canada and Japan EU trade deals.
#3193
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Type 25. Build No.34
Posts: 8,222
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
#3198
Scooby Senior
OK, but they've had to open a new operation within the EU which they wouldn't have had to do if the UK wasn't leaving. They could have always opened a plant in the US without the UK having to leave the EU! Presumably the EU production is now being moved out of the UK and to the new EU plant, which will undoubtedly cost UK jobs. There is also a real risk that at some point they may decide to shut the UK production and supply the small UK market from the EU or US production. Well done Brexit
#3199
My involvement in a manufacturing company has decided on a plant in the EU and another one in the USA. The EU plant is service at existing supply whilst reducing costs, but the USA plant is for the massive market potential which they hope to tap into and hugely increase profits and turnover They've had a 25% increase in turnover from outside the EU last year alone
#3201
#3203
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
OK, but they've had to open a new operation within the EU which they wouldn't have had to do if the UK wasn't leaving. They could have always opened a plant in the US without the UK having to leave the EU! Presumably the EU production is now being moved out of the UK and to the new EU plant, which will undoubtedly cost UK jobs. There is also a real risk that at some point they may decide to shut the UK production and supply the small UK market from the EU or US production. Well done Brexit
#3204
Scooby Senior
You presume wrong. It's worthwhile to open a further plant to bypass logistics of Brexit, employing further staff in the EU. The USA plant is again to provide a local presence to service the market again offsetting logistical distribution issues. all companies are under a UK holding company so profits will be returned to the UK . Only if UK market dried up to make it unprofitable to continue, unlikely given current profit levels
How is this affecting jobs in the UK? Are people being layed off in the UK as production is reduced, or has somehow UK demand increased to a level that UK production and staff will remain constant?
#3209
We can trade with the rest of the world now. There is no guarantees the deals we can negotiate will be better than what we have now. Lots of companies have very successful relationships with the EU, lots depend on the free movement of goods and people. That will stop. It's not hard to understand why it's a bad decision.
#3210
Scooby Senior
But what you have done with your company example, is confirm project fear and what remainers have been saying all along; companies will relocate to other EU states and cost UK jobs to avoid the post Brexit tariffs. If they operate through a UK holding company, that's fine, but only the bosses are getting rich through that while the people who have lost their jobs get **** on! The rich bosses will probably anyway be stashing their cash or even living off shore and the UK tax man us unlikely to see any benefit from the rich elite getting richer, while the increase in unemployment will continue to strain the system.
The Tory vision of Brexit is all about capitalism and the rich getting richer without a care for the majority of the population. I'm not a socialist, but I don't like the extreme form of capitalism you see in the US either. Generally, European countries have struck a relatively nice balance, allowing people to take some risk and get rich but without screwing everyone else.