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Old Jul 3, 2018 | 01:32 PM
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Gone to ground it would seem


bit like the elusive 350m !

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Old Jul 3, 2018 | 04:24 PM
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You mean the £350m that has been disappeared by you remoaners? LOL


I'm instructed to ask you who think the EU is such a good place to be, for your thoughts on article thirteen?
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Old Jul 3, 2018 | 08:09 PM
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Just dipped in, having a lovley time in France, cycling. Love France , hate the EU

I'm honoured, you value my economic knowledge, being a thick person

If you follow my advice, it's only going to lead to Nirvana
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Old Jul 3, 2018 | 09:08 PM
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Brexit toff im afraid
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Old Jul 4, 2018 | 10:59 AM
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The angry part of me really hopes that they make any visit to an EU country, by a UK citizen post-Brexit, a visa-only affair. Like Russia, I would make it one visa allowed a single entry and regress. It would be worth it just to see Alcafcktard cry like a b1tch abit it (like he does everything else)
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Old Jul 4, 2018 | 11:36 AM
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Fukc you ****
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Old Jul 4, 2018 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
You mean the £350m that has been disappeared by you remoaners? LOL


I'm instructed to ask you who think the EU is such a good place to be, for your thoughts on article thirteen?

No responses yet then? LOL
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Old Jul 4, 2018 | 11:47 AM
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fingers crossed, with the report regarding all the rules the leave campaign broke it will give more politicians the spine to call it all off.
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Old Jul 4, 2018 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
No responses yet then? LOL

I thought you'd decided (on numerous occasions) not to comment on this thread?



Yet, here you are again........
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Old Jul 4, 2018 | 03:44 PM
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No responses yet then? LOL
Nobody has responded because article 13 has little to do with Brexit or how it affect our economy overall.

If you think the inability to make memes is important in the context of being in or out of the EU, fill yer boots, but most of us are concerned with the economy being ruined and being stuck in trade limbo for years to come.
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Old Jul 4, 2018 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
No responses yet then? LOL
Leaving aside the vague nature of your question (article 13 of the Lisbon Treaty? Article 13 of the European Copyright Directive which is being voted on today by the European Parliament? Which article 13?) you're definitely deluded if you think you're worth engaging with, given that you have repeatedly said us remainers are, and I quote, a bunch of whining wnakers, *****, etc etc. My last direct reply to you, regarding who picked our fruit and veg before we joined the EU, was met with a deafening silence. So yes, zero response from me.
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Old Jul 4, 2018 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Sad Weevil
Leaving aside the vague nature of your question (article 13 of the Lisbon Treaty? Article 13 of the European Copyright Directive which is being voted on today by the European Parliament? Which article 13?) you're definitely deluded if you think you're worth engaging with, given that you have repeatedly said us remainers are, and I quote, a bunch of whining wnakers, *****, etc etc. My last direct reply to you, regarding who picked our fruit and veg before we joined the EU, was met with a deafening silence. So yes, zero response from me.
Actually, I'm reading a book at the moment, and it talks about how Britain opened it's borders to anyone and everyone, with no regard for monitoring who was in the country whatsoever, in Victorian times, to satisfy the need for labour to build the country's industrial and economic strength.

So, the Wrexiteers who seem to wish to return the UK to its greatness of Victorian times are actually yearning for a time when immigrants made it great. Oh the irony..........
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Old Jul 4, 2018 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by coupe_20vt
I thought you'd decided (on numerous occasions) not to comment on this thread?



Yet, here you are again........

No comments, just a question that no remainers seem keen to answer.
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Old Jul 4, 2018 | 05:09 PM
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All remainers running away from a REAL question then? One that REALLY exists, unlike all the might be, may, etc they deal in.
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Old Jul 4, 2018 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
All remainers running away from a REAL question then? One that REALLY exists, unlike all the might be, may, etc they deal in.

I think article 13 is excellent, at least one better than article 12, and I'm sure article 14 will be even better.


Now why don't you just get it off your chest and let us all know what you think of this?
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Old Jul 4, 2018 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
All remainers running away from a REAL question then? One that REALLY exists, unlike all the might be, may, etc they deal in.
No, I've discussed it at great length with other people who actually care about such things, including my MEP, I'm just not interested in discussing it with you in particular. Get over it.
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Old Jul 4, 2018 | 09:10 PM
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No you haven't. You have no idea what I'm on about and are running away as usual.


Stick to your lies, bud, you'll be fine.
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Old Jul 4, 2018 | 09:40 PM
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Some different article 13 again ?
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Old Jul 4, 2018 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
No you haven't. You have no idea what I'm on about and are running away as usual.


Stick to your lies, bud, you'll be fine.
Good game. We all like a riddle. So again, perhaps you can tell us what you mean by article 13? Like, article 13 of what? Because, you see, there are rather a lot of article 13s. I was referring to article 13 of the proposed European Copyright Directive, since this is currently being voted on, and is a subject close to me. Not sure what I'm supposed to be lying about.....
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Old Jul 5, 2018 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Sad Weevil
Good game. We all like a riddle. So again, perhaps you can tell us what you mean by article 13? Like, article 13 of what? Because, you see, there are rather a lot of article 13s. I was referring to article 13 of the proposed European Copyright Directive, since this is currently being voted on, and is a subject close to me. Not sure what I'm supposed to be lying about.....
is that this one:

https://www.scoobynet.com/1042695-so...l#post12013834

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Old Jul 5, 2018 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ^Qwerty^
Yes, that's the 'article 13' I was referring to.
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Old Jul 5, 2018 | 09:20 AM
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Can someone please let me in on what 'article 13' alzheimerzar is on about?
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Old Jul 5, 2018 | 10:04 AM
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It can only be this one

https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.c...ure-for-music/
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Old Jul 5, 2018 | 11:45 AM
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Ahhhh must be that
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Old Jul 5, 2018 | 02:05 PM
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The result of the European Parliament vote on the Copyright Directive is just in, MEPs have rejected it in it's present form. Good result, since it was deeply flawed. The value gap for creators urgently needs addressing, but not at the expense of potentially losing things like Wikis etc. I'm glad I wrote to my MEP about this, it shows that the EU is a functioning democracy, and illustrates that the idea of the EU as a dictatorship, with Brussels imposing laws is, and always was, a lie. Of course, pretty soon we'll have no say at all in such matters, even though the result will affect us.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-44712475

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-44722406

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Old Jul 5, 2018 | 09:09 PM
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Sir Macca's not as influential as Monsanto
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Old Jul 6, 2018 | 08:12 AM
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Oh dear, another Wrexiteer narrative proved to be a lie, the EU Parliament rejects Article 13, democracy in action.

In some ways more democratic than ours, as there is no whip in the EP, no huge majority of one party, so nothing can get pushed through on the whim of party.

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"In some ways more democratic than ours, as there is no whip in the EP, no huge majority of one party, so nothing can get pushed through on the whim of party. "

that's why Brexiteers like Farage and JRM don't like it
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Old Jul 7, 2018 | 10:24 AM
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As a remain voter I wouldn't support that quote as a fact of reality. Although would welcome that as the ideology.

As a mild example, the current spotlight on how the AirBnB lobby groups are influencing the EU to curb the independance of cities to restrict its use/abuse...most cities have council members and mayors democratically elected by the local public, yet there is an attempt to override their powers.

The AirBnB lobby documentation is classed as corporate secrets and public access is denied...this isn't the 'transparent' behaviour that I would expect. And in part it is overriding local democracy.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...share_btn_link

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Old Jul 7, 2018 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
As a remain voter I wouldn't support that quote as a fact of reality. Although would welcome that as the ideology.

As a mild example, the current spotlight on how the AirBnB lobby groups are influencing the EU to curb the independance of cities to restrict its use/abuse...most cities have council members and mayors democratically elected by the local public, yet there is an attempt to override their powers.

The AirBnB lobby documentation is classed as corporate secrets and public access is denied...this isn't the 'transparent' behaviour that I would expect. And in part it is overriding local democracy.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...share_btn_link
I think lobbying is a problem for all Western democracies (look how much power the NRA has, for example), but they are still democratic. The point was that how Wrexiteers represent the EP is simply not true.
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