So Brexit seems to be a good thing then.
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In all seriousness, i think alot of folks have had enough of the EU for various reasons. where we will be in 10 years time no one can tell you.
People are either over egging the up sides or the downsides depending on their perspective and the reality is i suspect things wont change much. I seem to remember last time i went to france i had to take and show a passport (going back a few years mind you)
What we do know is people trade with the EU without free trade agreements, borders work without free trade agreements or free movement agreements.
We import and export goods from all over the world so systems can be put in place that work.
There will be some short term turmoil, but i don't think long term it will change much.
People are either over egging the up sides or the downsides depending on their perspective and the reality is i suspect things wont change much. I seem to remember last time i went to france i had to take and show a passport (going back a few years mind you)
What we do know is people trade with the EU without free trade agreements, borders work without free trade agreements or free movement agreements.
We import and export goods from all over the world so systems can be put in place that work.
There will be some short term turmoil, but i don't think long term it will change much.
Sorry Tidgy, that's 100% waffle.
'Various reasons"...not sure what these various reasons are other that the immigration trigger which the EU do not control.
Logic tells us that we will not be able to negotiate such favourable deals without the combined weight\support of the EU. Therefore we will be worse off, not for 10 years but for perpetuity.
...and if you don't think much will change long term why the blimming hell would you support short term turmoil?
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Sorry Tidgy, that's 100% waffle.
'Various reasons"...not sure what these various reasons are other that the immigration trigger which the EU do not control.
Logic tells us that we will not be able to negotiate such favourable deals without the combined weight\support of the EU. Therefore we will be worse off, not for 10 years but for perpetuity.
...and if you don't think much will change long term why the blimming hell would you support short term turmoil?
'Various reasons"...not sure what these various reasons are other that the immigration trigger which the EU do not control.
Logic tells us that we will not be able to negotiate such favourable deals without the combined weight\support of the EU. Therefore we will be worse off, not for 10 years but for perpetuity.
...and if you don't think much will change long term why the blimming hell would you support short term turmoil?
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In all seriousness, i think alot of folks have had enough of the EU for various reasons. where we will be in 10 years time no one can tell you.
People are either over egging the up sides or the downsides depending on their perspective and the reality is i suspect things wont change much. I seem to remember last time i went to france i had to take and show a passport (going back a few years mind you)
What we do know is people trade with the EU without free trade agreements, borders work without free trade agreements or free movement agreements.
We import and export goods from all over the world so systems can be put in place that work.
There will be some short term turmoil, but i don't think long term it will change much.
People are either over egging the up sides or the downsides depending on their perspective and the reality is i suspect things wont change much. I seem to remember last time i went to france i had to take and show a passport (going back a few years mind you)
What we do know is people trade with the EU without free trade agreements, borders work without free trade agreements or free movement agreements.
We import and export goods from all over the world so systems can be put in place that work.
There will be some short term turmoil, but i don't think long term it will change much.
The only way that can be balanced out is if we get fantastic trade deals with the rest the world. That is by no mans certain, and will take a long time. That is the reality that Leavers seem to ignore, deny, whatever you want.
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lol a reasonable post which has zero substance that I call you out on, so now I'm the nutter.
Like I said; wilful ignorance. ******* Cameron and his assumption that nobody would be dumb enough to vote leave.
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Let's cut the guy some slack here. Maybe he knew along, but the guilt of having such a privileged education drove him for some reason to throw the future of the country into the hands of people who'd barely had any at all. He might yet go down in history as one of Britain's greatest ever egalitarians
maybe that is the real bigger picture and we just can't see it
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Cos brexiters here didn't want force EU to change , they just wanted out - right?!!
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.i...916.html%3famp
Wrong
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.i...916.html%3famp
Wrong
I suspect it had more to do with lack of oxygen getting to his brain. Quite common with Brexiters, apparently (it would at least explain the almost constant forgetting of things they'd promised just a couple of weeks/months/years earlier).
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Hold on, are you saying we can't have our cake and eat it
I wonder how that would effect one of the more vocal oldies on this thread. Irony bites hard
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https://www.change.org/p/theresa-may...on-brexit-deal
lets see who starts foaming at the mouth first...
lets see who starts foaming at the mouth first...
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https://www.change.org/p/theresa-may...on-brexit-deal
lets see who starts foaming at the mouth first...
lets see who starts foaming at the mouth first...
Has anything on change.org ever managed to get through to make it into parliamentary policy?
Excluding private members bills which get through under the radar, usually because only four politicians are sitting in the commons at the time
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So to put Brexit into context. Over 1 million signed a petition not to sack Jeremy Clarkson from Top Gear. 
How did that one turn out?
How did that one turn out?
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nope more scaremungering, will just get paid into a uk bank account and then transfered the same day to the account held elsewhere
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pmsl, project fear is still in full swing then,
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/army-stand...132300367.html
perhaps it's going a bit too far now
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/army-stand...132300367.html
perhaps it's going a bit too far now