So Brexit seems to be a good thing then.
05 October 2018, 06:02 PM
#3482
So Wales are now talking about independence from England today and it's now thought they will bid for it, Scotland will bid and succeed and Ireland will bid for unity leaving England all by itself if we proceed with Brexit.
Bet they never saw that coming! What a total **** up.
Bet they never saw that coming! What a total **** up.
05 October 2018, 06:46 PM
#3483
Chlorine washed chickens aren't banned because the chemical wash is harmfull, but because the washisng is an easy solution to general unhygenic practices.
Have a read of this to explain why its banned in the EU
http://theconversation.com/chlorine-...n-the-eu-81921
As for other counties importing chicken, as long as it isn't infected with anything and they haven't tried to cover up the infections by chlorine washing, then theres no problem. If people were getting ill from imported Chinese chicken, we'd soon hear about it. As they are not, then it would appear the chicken from China (at least from the supplier used by that product), are perfectly safe.
To be honest, if you look at US food safety regs, its not really hard to accept that chicken from China is safer than from the US!
Have a read of this to explain why its banned in the EU
http://theconversation.com/chlorine-...n-the-eu-81921
As for other counties importing chicken, as long as it isn't infected with anything and they haven't tried to cover up the infections by chlorine washing, then theres no problem. If people were getting ill from imported Chinese chicken, we'd soon hear about it. As they are not, then it would appear the chicken from China (at least from the supplier used by that product), are perfectly safe.
To be honest, if you look at US food safety regs, its not really hard to accept that chicken from China is safer than from the US!
Yeah I've read similar documents on this. My point is media branding Chlorine as the issue and people stupidly repeating it...like OMG! OMG! Chlorine! evil! no, no! As I said we should be doing it on our own Chicken..
The argument against it from Defra on the basis that it encourages poor standards is weak bordering on flippant. You see plenty of cases where people get food poisoning in the UK which is evidence enough that Alledged stricter standards don't remedy the situation. A pub down the road from my work was fined £20k due to bad hygiene after a mass food poisoning incident plus damages from Independant claims from customers...the owners just shut it down, bumped the business and its assets so nobody could get any money and set up somewhere else under a new name, so what we currently have is ineffective. Not to forget wider scale incidences like that at Three Sisters, Russell Hume and horse meat sold as beef.
Importing from the US and use of Chlorine are two separate issues that some idiots have bundled together to grab a headline. As shown earlier, we already import chicken from questionable sources. I mean does anyone question the state of conditions of Wagu or Ostrich?
Personally, I have no issue with importing chicken from the US as with other countries, we could if we so desire enforce that the importer ensures that the standards meets or exceed our requirements. I've been to the US a number of times and no I didn't get sick. Egypt on the other hand, everyone on the same tour fell ill, now if Brexit meant importing Egyptian chicken, I'd be a little more concerned, obviously.
Last edited by ALi-B; 05 October 2018 at 06:53 PM.
05 October 2018, 07:34 PM
#3485
Do you actually read any posts before diving in?
Three questions for would-be immigrants:
IS THERE A JOB YOU CAN DO, AVAILABLE TO YOU?
HAVE YOU THE SKILLS FOR THAT JOB?
Is there no-one already in the UK who wants that job?
If they can answer all three with "Yes", they will STILL BE WELCOME.
Which part didn't you understand?
Three questions for would-be immigrants:
IS THERE A JOB YOU CAN DO, AVAILABLE TO YOU?
HAVE YOU THE SKILLS FOR THAT JOB?
Is there no-one already in the UK who wants that job?
If they can answer all three with "Yes", they will STILL BE WELCOME.
Which part didn't you understand?
I hope France adopts the same policy, that way it will keep all the idiots out who think they can survive on a small income and be a drain on Frances economy.
11 October 2018, 08:54 PM
#3486
Scooby Regular
Chlorine washed chickens aren't banned because the chemical wash is harmfull, but because the washisng is an easy solution to general unhygenic practices.
Have a read of this to explain why its banned in the EU
http://theconversation.com/chlorine-...n-the-eu-81921
As for other counties importing chicken, as long as it isn't infected with anything and they haven't tried to cover up the infections by chlorine washing, then theres no problem. If people were getting ill from imported Chinese chicken, we'd soon hear about it. As they are not, then it would appear the chicken from China (at least from the supplier used by that product), are perfectly safe.
To be honest, if you look at US food safety regs, its not really hard to accept that chicken from China is safer than from the US!
Have a read of this to explain why its banned in the EU
http://theconversation.com/chlorine-...n-the-eu-81921
As for other counties importing chicken, as long as it isn't infected with anything and they haven't tried to cover up the infections by chlorine washing, then theres no problem. If people were getting ill from imported Chinese chicken, we'd soon hear about it. As they are not, then it would appear the chicken from China (at least from the supplier used by that product), are perfectly safe.
To be honest, if you look at US food safety regs, its not really hard to accept that chicken from China is safer than from the US!
who cares if its got some faeces on it - lets give it a chlorine wash !!!!!
Last edited by hodgy0_2; 11 October 2018 at 08:57 PM.
11 October 2018, 08:55 PM
#3487
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12 October 2018, 07:42 AM
#3488
Don't bother, Mystic Meg. You've lost any respect and undermined yourself as a individual with your silly and abusive retorts. You had plenty of chances to explain yourself to me but instead didn't and resorted to slurs, so you have nothing further to offer to me worthy of being or read.
(Bet he knew I'd reply with that too ).
(Bet he knew I'd reply with that too
).
12 October 2018, 11:21 AM
#3491
Scooby Regular
Well, first off it is worth pointing out that we will see a lot of people disowning this Brexit nonsense – (I voted remain but………………….) just like how now, no one admits to believing the bollocks about the Iraq War and the “45 min” claim.
So I can only comment what crap people post, not how people say the voted (I voted remain but………………….).
Secondly – the pathetic wearing of the Eurosceptic badge, presumably so you can feel at home with idiots that voted for this clusterfvck
And let’s recap what we know - The UK government admits
As an aside I pointed this out over a year ago
I come across this “sceptic” nonsense a lot (whether you put Euro on the front or not) – you see it when debating flat-earthers 911 twoofers, false flaggers and climate change deniers – the response, when you tell them they are delusional fruitcakes is that you are not “sceptical” enough, and are “sheeple”.
It is a simple and pathetic strawman, and represents a false dichotomy – it assumes that either you are a Eurosceptic or you are “head over heels” in love with the EU – please find my posts where I express undying love for the EU
Everyone should be sceptical of the EU just like the should be sceptical of the UK government, the UK official opposition, the police, local government, the NHS, the newspapers (Guardian to the Express) etc etc – accept most people don’t need to give themselves a pathetic label
So I can only comment what crap people post, not how people say the voted (I voted remain but………………….).
Secondly – the pathetic wearing of the Eurosceptic badge, presumably so you can feel at home with idiots that voted for this clusterfvck
And let’s recap what we know - The UK government admits
- Planes will be grounded
- Lorries/Lorry drivers will have no legal basis to drive on EU roads
- It is building a lorry park on the M26
- That companies should stockpile food and medicines
As an aside I pointed this out over a year ago
I come across this “sceptic” nonsense a lot (whether you put Euro on the front or not) – you see it when debating flat-earthers 911 twoofers, false flaggers and climate change deniers – the response, when you tell them they are delusional fruitcakes is that you are not “sceptical” enough, and are “sheeple”.
It is a simple and pathetic strawman, and represents a false dichotomy – it assumes that either you are a Eurosceptic or you are “head over heels” in love with the EU – please find my posts where I express undying love for the EU
Everyone should be sceptical of the EU just like the should be sceptical of the UK government, the UK official opposition, the police, local government, the NHS, the newspapers (Guardian to the Express) etc etc – accept most people don’t need to give themselves a pathetic label
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12 October 2018, 03:01 PM
#3492
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Well, first off it is worth pointing out that we will see a lot of people disowning this Brexit nonsense – (I voted remain but………………….) just like how now, no one admits to believing the bollocks about the Iraq War and the “45 min” claim.
So I can only comment what crap people post, not how people say the voted (I voted remain but………………….).
Secondly – the pathetic wearing of the Eurosceptic badge, presumably so you can feel at home with idiots that voted for this clusterfvck
And let’s recap what we know - The UK government admits
As an aside I pointed this out over a year ago
I come across this “sceptic” nonsense a lot (whether you put Euro on the front or not) – you see it when debating flat-earthers 911 twoofers, false flaggers and climate change deniers – the response, when you tell them they are delusional fruitcakes is that you are not “sceptical” enough, and are “sheeple”.
It is a simple and pathetic strawman, and represents a false dichotomy – it assumes that either you are a Eurosceptic or you are “head over heels” in love with the EU – please find my posts where I express undying love for the EU
Everyone should be sceptical of the EU just like the should be sceptical of the UK government, the UK official opposition, the police, local government, the NHS, the newspapers (Guardian to the Express) etc etc – accept most people don’t need to give themselves a pathetic label
So I can only comment what crap people post, not how people say the voted (I voted remain but………………….).
Secondly – the pathetic wearing of the Eurosceptic badge, presumably so you can feel at home with idiots that voted for this clusterfvck
And let’s recap what we know - The UK government admits
- Planes will be grounded
- Lorries/Lorry drivers will have no legal basis to drive on EU roads
- It is building a lorry park on the M26
- That companies should stockpile food and medicines
As an aside I pointed this out over a year ago
I come across this “sceptic” nonsense a lot (whether you put Euro on the front or not) – you see it when debating flat-earthers 911 twoofers, false flaggers and climate change deniers – the response, when you tell them they are delusional fruitcakes is that you are not “sceptical” enough, and are “sheeple”.
It is a simple and pathetic strawman, and represents a false dichotomy – it assumes that either you are a Eurosceptic or you are “head over heels” in love with the EU – please find my posts where I express undying love for the EU
Everyone should be sceptical of the EU just like the should be sceptical of the UK government, the UK official opposition, the police, local government, the NHS, the newspapers (Guardian to the Express) etc etc – accept most people don’t need to give themselves a pathetic label
https://news.sky.com/story/eurostar-...warns-11524337
Last edited by Wurzel; 12 October 2018 at 03:03 PM.
12 October 2018, 04:34 PM
#3495
Scooby Regular
How else am I going to get to see Better Call Saul ...
Thank goodness we won't actually lose Netflix here in the UK: "One paper covering copyright reveals Britons could be barred from accessing Netflix, Spotify and other online entertainment while travelling to EU states."
Thank goodness we won't actually lose Netflix here in the UK: "One paper covering copyright reveals Britons could be barred from accessing Netflix, Spotify and other online entertainment while travelling to EU states."
12 October 2018, 04:53 PM
#3496
Scooby Senior
13 October 2018, 07:55 AM
#3499
NO-ONE I know living over there does anything other than pay their own way. And far from being a drain, they actively SUPPORT the local economy. You only have to look at the local brasserie owner who HAD a brilliant business. No booking, you weren't eating that night!
Then he started in and p*ssed of his clientele, one by one, and they went elsewhere.
Business now up for sale.
13 October 2018, 10:25 AM
#3500
More here: https://medium.com/the-jist/was-eu-t...m-980ba88a8077
https://www.theguardian.com/business...-tax-avoidance
https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_custom...tax-evasion_en
It was never about 'taking back control'. It was about these fraudsters keeping control. Do you really think they had the interests of the likes of you and I in mind?
13 October 2018, 11:02 AM
#3501
So, if you've watched the vid, and actually understand it, you'll probably realise why the likes of Reese-Mogg, Farage etc want a hard brexit. You'll also realise who was behind the leave campaign. Check out the EU Tax Avoidance Directive: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_custom...e-directive_en
More here: https://medium.com/the-jist/was-eu-t...m-980ba88a8077
https://www.theguardian.com/business...-tax-avoidance
https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_custom...tax-evasion_en
It was never about 'taking back control'. It was about these fraudsters keeping control. Do you really think they had the interests of the likes of you and I in mind?
More here: https://medium.com/the-jist/was-eu-t...m-980ba88a8077
https://www.theguardian.com/business...-tax-avoidance
https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_custom...tax-evasion_en
It was never about 'taking back control'. It was about these fraudsters keeping control. Do you really think they had the interests of the likes of you and I in mind?
13 October 2018, 11:54 AM
#3502
13 October 2018, 01:16 PM
#3503
I wouldn't be too sure about that. The tide is starting to turn with regards to our authorities' attitudes to allowing east-European big shots launder their ill-gotten gains here *****-nilly.
14 October 2018, 03:31 AM
#3504
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Thses top brexiters don't even use nhs
And still the public bought the lie
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.i...981.html%3famp
the daft ones anyway.
And still the public bought the lie
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.i...981.html%3famp
the daft ones anyway.
Last edited by dpb; 14 October 2018 at 03:33 AM.
