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Old 05 October 2018, 04:32 PM
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Could and maybe points in that so called report
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Old 05 October 2018, 06:02 PM
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So Wales are now talking about independence from England today and it's now thought they will bid for it, Scotland will bid and succeed and Ireland will bid for unity leaving England all by itself if we proceed with Brexit.

Bet they never saw that coming! What a total **** up.
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Old 05 October 2018, 06:46 PM
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Chlorine washed chickens aren't banned because the chemical wash is harmfull, but because the washisng is an easy solution to general unhygenic practices.

Have a read of this to explain why its banned in the EU
http://theconversation.com/chlorine-...n-the-eu-81921

As for other counties importing chicken, as long as it isn't infected with anything and they haven't tried to cover up the infections by chlorine washing, then theres no problem. If people were getting ill from imported Chinese chicken, we'd soon hear about it. As they are not, then it would appear the chicken from China (at least from the supplier used by that product), are perfectly safe.

To be honest, if you look at US food safety regs, its not really hard to accept that chicken from China is safer than from the US!

Yeah I've read similar documents on this. My point is media branding Chlorine as the issue and people stupidly repeating it...like OMG! OMG! Chlorine! evil! no, no! As I said we should be doing it on our own Chicken..

The argument against it from Defra on the basis that it encourages poor standards is weak bordering on flippant. You see plenty of cases where people get food poisoning in the UK which is evidence enough that Alledged stricter standards don't remedy the situation. A pub down the road from my work was fined 20k due to bad hygiene after a mass food poisoning incident plus damages from Independant claims from customers...the owners just shut it down, bumped the business and its assets so nobody could get any money and set up somewhere else under a new name, so what we currently have is ineffective. Not to forget wider scale incidences like that at Three Sisters, Russell Hume and horse meat sold as beef.

Importing from the US and use of Chlorine are two separate issues that some idiots have bundled together to grab a headline. As shown earlier, we already import chicken from questionable sources. I mean does anyone question the state of conditions of Wagu or Ostrich?

Personally, I have no issue with importing chicken from the US as with other countries, we could if we so desire enforce that the importer ensures that the standards meets or exceed our requirements. I've been to the US a number of times and no I didn't get sick. Egypt on the other hand, everyone on the same tour fell ill, now if Brexit meant importing Egyptian chicken, I'd be a little more concerned, obviously.


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Oh, and I wouldn't say no to more Argentinian beef. Our food industry also needs a kick up the hind quarter with the tough leather they palm off on us as 'beef'.
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Old 05 October 2018, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar View Post
Do you actually read any posts before diving in?

Three questions for would-be immigrants:

IS THERE A JOB YOU CAN DO, AVAILABLE TO YOU?
HAVE YOU THE SKILLS FOR THAT JOB?
Is there no-one already in the UK who wants that job?

If they can answer all three with "Yes", they will STILL BE WELCOME.

Which part didn't you understand?



I hope France adopts the same policy, that way it will keep all the idiots out who think they can survive on a small income and be a drain on Frances economy.
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Old 11 October 2018, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by BMWhere? View Post
Chlorine washed chickens aren't banned because the chemical wash is harmfull, but because the washisng is an easy solution to general unhygenic practices.

Have a read of this to explain why its banned in the EU
http://theconversation.com/chlorine-...n-the-eu-81921

As for other counties importing chicken, as long as it isn't infected with anything and they haven't tried to cover up the infections by chlorine washing, then theres no problem. If people were getting ill from imported Chinese chicken, we'd soon hear about it. As they are not, then it would appear the chicken from China (at least from the supplier used by that product), are perfectly safe.

To be honest, if you look at US food safety regs, its not really hard to accept that chicken from China is safer than from the US!
Bexiters are too thick to realise this

who cares if its got some faeces on it - lets give it a chlorine wash !!!!!

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Old 11 October 2018, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B View Post
You know what?

You make me embarrased to have voted remain.
great - I knew you would reply with this bull**** - I will reply tomorrow
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Old 12 October 2018, 07:42 AM
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Don't bother, Mystic Meg. You've lost any respect and undermined yourself as a individual with your silly and abusive retorts. You had plenty of chances to explain yourself to me but instead didn't and resorted to slurs, so you have nothing further to offer to me worthy of being or read.


(Bet he knew I'd reply with that too ).
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Old 12 October 2018, 08:28 AM
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Old 12 October 2018, 09:49 AM
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'Ark at you and your witty (bitchy) one liners
Anyhow, that's all that will fit on the screen of a 4S. I'm not going to spend my weekend reading/reply posts on a laptop
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Old 12 October 2018, 11:21 AM
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Well, first off it is worth pointing out that we will see a lot of people disowning this Brexit nonsense – (I voted remain but………………….) just like how now, no one admits to believing the bollocks about the Iraq War and the “45 min” claim.

So I can only comment what crap people post, not how people say the voted (I voted remain but………………….).

Secondly – the pathetic wearing of the Eurosceptic badge, presumably so you can feel at home with idiots that voted for this clusterfvck

And let’s recap what we know - The UK government admits
  1. Planes will be grounded
  2. Lorries/Lorry drivers will have no legal basis to drive on EU roads
  3. It is building a lorry park on the M26
  4. That companies should stockpile food and medicines
And much much more – just look at the notice to stakeholders the UK has produced and the businesses leaving the UK

As an aside I pointed this out over a year ago

I come across this “sceptic” nonsense a lot
(whether you put Euro on the front or not) – you see it when debating flat-earthers 911 twoofers, false flaggers and climate change deniers – the response, when you tell them they are delusional fruitcakes is that you are not “sceptical” enough, and are “sheeple”.

It is a simple and pathetic strawman, and represents a false dichotomy – it assumes that either you are a Eurosceptic or you are “head over heels” in love with the EU – please find my posts where I express undying love for the EU


Everyone should be sceptical of the EU just like the should be sceptical of the UK government, the UK official opposition, the police, local government, the NHS, the newspapers (Guardian to the Express) etc etc – accept most people don’t need to give themselves a pathetic label

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Old 12 October 2018, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2 View Post
Well, first off it is worth pointing out that we will see a lot of people disowning this Brexit nonsense – (I voted remain but………………….) just like how now, no one admits to believing the bollocks about the Iraq War and the “45 min” claim.

So I can only comment what crap people post, not how people say the voted (I voted remain but………………….).

Secondly – the pathetic wearing of the Eurosceptic badge, presumably so you can feel at home with idiots that voted for this clusterfvck

And let’s recap what we know - The UK government admits
  1. Planes will be grounded
  2. Lorries/Lorry drivers will have no legal basis to drive on EU roads
  3. It is building a lorry park on the M26
  4. That companies should stockpile food and medicines
And much much more – just look at the notice to stakeholders the UK has produced and the businesses leaving the UK

As an aside I pointed this out over a year ago

I come across this “sceptic” nonsense a lot
(whether you put Euro on the front or not) – you see it when debating flat-earthers 911 twoofers, false flaggers and climate change deniers – the response, when you tell them they are delusional fruitcakes is that you are not “sceptical” enough, and are “sheeple”.

It is a simple and pathetic strawman, and represents a false dichotomy – it assumes that either you are a Eurosceptic or you are “head over heels” in love with the EU – please find my posts where I express undying love for the EU


Everyone should be sceptical of the EU just like the should be sceptical of the UK government, the UK official opposition, the police, local government, the NHS, the newspapers (Guardian to the Express) etc etc – accept most people don’t need to give themselves a pathetic label
Don't forget the Eurostar and Netflix.

https://news.sky.com/story/eurostar-...warns-11524337

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Old 12 October 2018, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Wurzel View Post
Don't forget the Eurostar and Netflix.

https://news.sky.com/story/eurostar-...warns-11524337
Not Netflix?????

If people had have known they would lose Netflix after Brexit I'm sure the vote would have swung the other way. Time for a 2nd referendum.
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Old 12 October 2018, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing View Post
Not Netflix?????

If people had have known they would lose Netflix after Brexit I'm sure the vote would have swung the other way. Time for a 2nd referendum.
Indeed, things are starting to get seriously out of hand now
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Old 12 October 2018, 04:34 PM
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How else am I going to get to see Better Call Saul ...

Thank goodness we won't actually lose Netflix here in the UK: "One paper covering copyright reveals Britons could be barred from accessing Netflix, Spotify and other online entertainment while travelling to EU states."
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Old 12 October 2018, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Wurzel View Post
Don't forget the Eurostar and Netflix.

https://news.sky.com/story/eurostar-...warns-11524337
To be fair, I doubt there will be much demand for the London to Brussels route after Brexit
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we may come out but the banking community will still use us, for not so obvious reasons, watch this and you will understand why

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Never heard of VPN. I watch programs from anywhere by using a VPN. a complete non issue, or for remainers its the end of the world
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Old 13 October 2018, 07:55 AM
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I hope France adopts the same policy, that way it will keep all the idiots out who think they can survive on a small income and be a drain on Frances economy.
Don't talk [email protected] is if you can help it?

NO-ONE I know living over there does anything other than pay their own way. And far from being a drain, they actively SUPPORT the local economy. You only have to look at the local brasserie owner who HAD a brilliant business. No booking, you weren't eating that night!

Then he started in and p*ssed of his clientele, one by one, and they went elsewhere.
Business now up for sale.
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Old 13 October 2018, 10:25 AM
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we may come out but the banking community will still use us, for not so obvious reasons, watch this and you will understand why
So, if you've watched the vid, and actually understand it, you'll probably realise why the likes of Reese-Mogg, Farage etc want a hard brexit. You'll also realise who was behind the leave campaign. Check out the EU Tax Avoidance Directive: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_custom...e-directive_en

More here: https://medium.com/the-jist/was-eu-t...m-980ba88a8077

https://www.theguardian.com/business...-tax-avoidance

https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_custom...tax-evasion_en

It was never about 'taking back control'. It was about these fraudsters keeping control. Do you really think they had the interests of the likes of you and I in mind?
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So, if you've watched the vid, and actually understand it, you'll probably realise why the likes of Reese-Mogg, Farage etc want a hard brexit. You'll also realise who was behind the leave campaign. Check out the EU Tax Avoidance Directive: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_custom...e-directive_en

More here: https://medium.com/the-jist/was-eu-t...m-980ba88a8077

https://www.theguardian.com/business...-tax-avoidance

https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_custom...tax-evasion_en

It was never about 'taking back control'. It was about these fraudsters keeping control. Do you really think they had the interests of the likes of you and I in mind?
no not for one moment, but the uk will still be used as a money cleaning machine, they need us and they know it
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no not for one moment, but the uk will still be used as a money cleaning machine, they need us and they know it
I wouldn't be too sure about that. The tide is starting to turn with regards to our authorities' attitudes to allowing east-European big shots launder their ill-gotten gains here *****-nilly.
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I wouldn't be too sure about that. The tide is starting to turn with regards to our authorities' attitudes to allowing east-European big shots launder their ill-gotten gains here *****-nilly.
watch the video, all the fiddling is not actually done in the city of london just in its name elsewhere ie cayman islands and gurnsey, and as a lot of mp's use the various trusts etc including good old tony blairs father i can't foresee any changes sometime soon, the video is a real eyeopener
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Thses top brexiters don't even use nhs

And still the public bought the lie


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.i...981.html%3famp


the daft ones anyway.


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Are you still harping on about the bus?
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Lots and lots of people are liable to suffer instead of gain as a result this

Its a laughing matter.?!
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Are you still harping on about the bus?
Yes.
It was a lie that influenced how people voted.
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Yes.
It was a lie that influenced how people voted.
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So yes, I'll be banging on about it until we hold the 3rd referendum.
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Yes.
It was a lie that influenced how people voted.
How is a suggestion become a lie? Even a Remoaner has had to stretch to reach that, surely?

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