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Old 10 December 2011, 11:47 AM
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Default DS2500 to Bluestuff NDX

Having read the favourable comments regarding the EBC Bluestuff NDX pads and being not particularly impressed with the Ferodo DS2500 as an everyday street pad with an very occasional venture on track, I decided to give the Bluestuff a try even though the Ferodo's were only slightly worn. I fitted a set of fronts on the Brembos and the difference was apparent right from the start! The bite felt much better from cold and although I've literally only done a few miles on them and they're far from bedded-in, the brakes feel more powerful. I found the DS2500's a little inconsistant on occasions so I'm hoping the EBC's will be more inspiring. I'm now about to order a set for the rear to finish the job properly.
Has anyone else gone from DS2500 to Bluestuff NDX? If so, what were your findings?

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Old 10 December 2011, 12:19 PM
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I changed from Kevlar pads (after a very short time) to NDX and noticed a considerable difference I know it wasn`t what you asked though
Old 10 December 2011, 12:22 PM
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I use the blue ndx and find them superb for fast road and occaisonal trackdays. I was using mintex extreme before and they were awfull, really noisy so the change was a good experience.As you say they work straight out the box and from cold...
Old 10 December 2011, 12:25 PM
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nice pic scoobysteve
Old 10 December 2011, 02:03 PM
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I've just gone from DS2500to the NDX on 4 pots with DBA grooved discs.
The Blues are far better from cold, slightly noisier and are equally resistant to fade.
Mine are for road use only at the minute.
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Originally Posted by s70rjw
I've just gone from DS2500to the NDX on 4 pots with DBA grooved discs.
The Blues are far better from cold, slightly noisier and are equally resistant to fade.
Mine are for road use only at the minute.
My discs are also DBA and the DS2500 were installed at the same time.
I wonder if the combination of grooved discs and double grooved pads, increase the noise?

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Old 10 December 2011, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jh1-2009
nice pic scoobysteve
Aggree ............There's no pad made that would stop me from ramming into the back of that!

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Old 10 December 2011, 03:43 PM
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I have blues and just fitted oranges. Oranges are even better again! They are pretty amazing tbh and I thought the blues were good!
Old 10 December 2011, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnD
My discs are also DBA and the DS2500 were installed at the same time.
I wonder if the combination of grooved discs and double grooved pads, increase the noise?

JohnD
Mine have quietened down a touch since bedding them in.
Old 10 December 2011, 05:23 PM
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You will always get some noise under heavy braking with grooved discs (in my experience).
Old 10 December 2011, 08:32 PM
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I was really impressed with the bluestuff ndx on the road and on track, I'm now using Tarox pads which are better from cold but i dunno how they will fare on track. I am tempted to try the ferodos next because they are more expensive so i assumed they were better but it sounds like thats not the case.
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Originally Posted by DonNedly
I was really impressed with the bluestuff ndx on the road and on track, I'm now using Tarox pads which are better from cold but i dunno how they will fare on track. I am tempted to try the ferodos next because they are more expensive so i assumed they were better but it sounds like thats not the case.
I think you`ll find that the NDX`s are a slight step up from the Ferodo`s....and more readily available
Old 10 December 2011, 10:12 PM
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The Orangestuff are a step up again , getting very good feedback from STI and EVO owners running these , as everyday drives and track use , and are the same price as the blues , £154.44 a set.
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They're superb Ian!
Old 13 December 2011, 02:50 PM
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Have just fitted Orangestuff to my K Sports. They are utterly superb!

I don't know what all the fuss was about regarding them being a track only pad.

The cold bite from them is astonishing and they get even better once warmed up!!

Highly recommended, they are the best pad I have ever had so far!!!!!
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Originally Posted by dazdavies
Have just fitted Orangestuff to my K Sports. They are utterly superb!

I don't know what all the fuss was about regarding them being a track only pad.

The cold bite from them is astonishing and they get even better once warmed up!!

Highly recommended, they are the best pad I have ever had so far!!!!!
They take you by surprise don't they Daz I wasn't expecting them to be as bitey as they are lol
Old 13 December 2011, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Ian Godney
The Orangestuff are a step up again , getting very good feedback from STI and EVO owners running these , as everyday drives and track use , and are the same price as the blues , £154.44 a set.
Which begs the question, why is both available? One assumes that the Orange Stuff are not theoretically road legal, but then again I believe the Bluestuff has yet to be approved?

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Old 13 December 2011, 03:32 PM
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Bluestuff is approved IIRC, Oranges aren't
Old 13 December 2011, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnD
Which begs the question, why is both available? One assumes that the Orange Stuff are not theoretically road legal, but then again I believe the Bluestuff has yet to be approved?

JohnD
Most makes of pads supply different compound from mild to wild , EBC makes black , green , red , yellow , blue and orange , so its not just 2 pads , the bluestuff were the best pads EBC were offering , but still people were finding the limits of them on the track , so EBC set about developing another higher spec pad to better cope , and as you can see from the comments above , and the comments on the MLR they are proving very very good , not just as a track pad that keeps going when the blue's start giving in , but they are very good on the road , and from cold.

The legal side of it is a bit of a farce really , as Daz has K sport brakes , which are not factory supplied , then he can fit whatever pads he wants and stays legal , if you have a 99 onwards car , and have factory calipers , then the pads should be Reg 90 certified , which makes all good pads technically illegal
Old 15 December 2011, 09:01 PM
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I'd like to know what the standpoint is from an Insurance point of view , based on " Technically Illegal". When the assesor come's round and see's you have technically illegal pads after a major fault accident and worst case scenario personal injury, do they still pay the claim.
Old 15 December 2011, 10:47 PM
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Tried both and still prefer Performance Friction Z pads Imo
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