Pictures of lowered 04-07 STi
25 April 2022, 01:19 AM
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Pictures of lowered 04-07 STi
Hey all, Considering purchasing a set of quality lowering springs for my STi.
I am after something that drops the front more than the rear (yes, I understand the front arch is bigger, and it gives the ILLUSION of it being bigger but it ruins the look of the car for me). I'd rather not go coilovers just yet, so I just want some decent springs and/or struts or whatever else I need to lower the car properly. I love the way that the RB320 sits, as the front arch gap between top of tyre to the arch is very similar to the rear, but I would think that RB320 struts and springs would be really hard to find? Lowering the car front only is something I've considered but there is so many conflicting opinions on it I want to do it properly at all four corners, the only issue being that I want more drop in the front. Probably 25mm in front and 10/15mm in the rear or something along those lines.... It's a 2006 STi Spec D widetrack hawkeye with standard STi enkei wheels, currently sitting on stock STi suspension. The car is a daily driver but also driven hard sometimes on some nice country roads if that helps.
I know Tein S-tech are up there but they have a big drop no? Seen somewhere it was like 40mm up front which is a little TOO much I think. I don't wanna stray too far from stock, but just bring the arch gap level while lowering the car a tad. Anyone got any suggestions? even better if anyone has any photos and what your cars suspension and wheel setup, they would be more than welcome! Preferably in the range of like £200-£600 but willing to pay more if needed.
I am after something that drops the front more than the rear (yes, I understand the front arch is bigger, and it gives the ILLUSION of it being bigger but it ruins the look of the car for me). I'd rather not go coilovers just yet, so I just want some decent springs and/or struts or whatever else I need to lower the car properly. I love the way that the RB320 sits, as the front arch gap between top of tyre to the arch is very similar to the rear, but I would think that RB320 struts and springs would be really hard to find? Lowering the car front only is something I've considered but there is so many conflicting opinions on it I want to do it properly at all four corners, the only issue being that I want more drop in the front. Probably 25mm in front and 10/15mm in the rear or something along those lines.... It's a 2006 STi Spec D widetrack hawkeye with standard STi enkei wheels, currently sitting on stock STi suspension. The car is a daily driver but also driven hard sometimes on some nice country roads if that helps.
I know Tein S-tech are up there but they have a big drop no? Seen somewhere it was like 40mm up front which is a little TOO much I think. I don't wanna stray too far from stock, but just bring the arch gap level while lowering the car a tad. Anyone got any suggestions? even better if anyone has any photos and what your cars suspension and wheel setup, they would be more than welcome! Preferably in the range of like £200-£600 but willing to pay more if needed.
25 April 2022, 09:36 AM
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Hey,
have you read this thread? I'd seriously consider these.
WA/A2 04-07 GD GG STI Springs - ScoobyNet.com - Subaru Enthusiast Forum
Sometimes RB320 stuff comes up on ebay but yeah it's hard to find. Or you could look at the prodrive springs.
I love the lower at the front look, too plus with a good set up it can handle really well.
have you read this thread? I'd seriously consider these.
WA/A2 04-07 GD GG STI Springs - ScoobyNet.com - Subaru Enthusiast Forum
Sometimes RB320 stuff comes up on ebay but yeah it's hard to find. Or you could look at the prodrive springs.
I love the lower at the front look, too plus with a good set up it can handle really well.
25 April 2022, 10:00 AM
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Check your current ride heights first - to see how much the springs have sagged/top mounts have compressed, over time.
Heights, when new 385mm front, 365mm rear - rear height is with full tank (or stick 50Kg in boot).
With your stock length front bump stops, you're riding on them at 355mm.
360mm front height is about the minimum. You'll still have to change the front stops, as did Prodrive, with their lowering springs.
A new set of widetrack inverted struts would be £800. Or, £650, if you didn't mind the front and rear struts being different colours.
Increasing the positive chassis rake, by lowering the front more as per P1/RB320 is fine.
A, relatively, higher rear ride height moves the roll centre upward, increasing rear roll resistance.
That, in turn, makes the front end roll more = more load on the front tyre. This helps turn-in response and reduces understeer, without the use of a stiffer rear bar.
You want the smallest bars possible, on a road car.
If the spring rate is relatively low and the bar is too stiff, a suspension movement, initially, occurring on only one side of the vehicle, will be transmitted to the other side, inducing an unsettling motion, destablizing the tyre contact patches on both sides.
Heights, when new 385mm front, 365mm rear - rear height is with full tank (or stick 50Kg in boot).
With your stock length front bump stops, you're riding on them at 355mm.
360mm front height is about the minimum. You'll still have to change the front stops, as did Prodrive, with their lowering springs.
A new set of widetrack inverted struts would be £800. Or, £650, if you didn't mind the front and rear struts being different colours.
Increasing the positive chassis rake, by lowering the front more as per P1/RB320 is fine.
A, relatively, higher rear ride height moves the roll centre upward, increasing rear roll resistance.
That, in turn, makes the front end roll more = more load on the front tyre. This helps turn-in response and reduces understeer, without the use of a stiffer rear bar.
You want the smallest bars possible, on a road car.
If the spring rate is relatively low and the bar is too stiff, a suspension movement, initially, occurring on only one side of the vehicle, will be transmitted to the other side, inducing an unsettling motion, destablizing the tyre contact patches on both sides.
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25 April 2022, 11:07 AM
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Hey,
have you read this thread? I'd seriously consider these.
WA/A2 04-07 GD GG STI Springs - ScoobyNet.com - Subaru Enthusiast Forum
Sometimes RB320 stuff comes up on ebay but yeah it's hard to find. Or you could look at the prodrive springs.
I love the lower at the front look, too plus with a good set up it can handle really well.
have you read this thread? I'd seriously consider these.
WA/A2 04-07 GD GG STI Springs - ScoobyNet.com - Subaru Enthusiast Forum
Sometimes RB320 stuff comes up on ebay but yeah it's hard to find. Or you could look at the prodrive springs.
I love the lower at the front look, too plus with a good set up it can handle really well.
25 April 2022, 11:09 AM
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Check your current ride heights first - to see how much the springs have sagged/top mounts have compressed, over time.
Heights, when new 385mm front, 365mm rear - rear height is with full tank (or stick 50Kg in boot).
With your stock length front bump stops, you're riding on them at 355mm.
360mm front height is about the minimum. You'll still have to change the front stops, as did Prodrive, with their lowering springs.
A new set of widetrack inverted struts would be £800. Or, £650, if you didn't mind the front and rear struts being different colours.
Increasing the positive chassis rake, by lowering the front more as per P1/RB320 is fine.
A, relatively, higher rear ride height moves the roll centre upward, increasing rear roll resistance.
That, in turn, makes the front end roll more = more load on the front tyre. This helps turn-in response and reduces understeer, without the use of a stiffer rear bar.
You want the smallest bars possible, on a road car.
If the spring rate is relatively low and the bar is too stiff, a suspension movement, initially, occurring on only one side of the vehicle, will be transmitted to the other side, inducing an unsettling motion, destablizing the tyre contact patches on both sides.
Heights, when new 385mm front, 365mm rear - rear height is with full tank (or stick 50Kg in boot).
With your stock length front bump stops, you're riding on them at 355mm.
360mm front height is about the minimum. You'll still have to change the front stops, as did Prodrive, with their lowering springs.
A new set of widetrack inverted struts would be £800. Or, £650, if you didn't mind the front and rear struts being different colours.
Increasing the positive chassis rake, by lowering the front more as per P1/RB320 is fine.
A, relatively, higher rear ride height moves the roll centre upward, increasing rear roll resistance.
That, in turn, makes the front end roll more = more load on the front tyre. This helps turn-in response and reduces understeer, without the use of a stiffer rear bar.
You want the smallest bars possible, on a road car.
If the spring rate is relatively low and the bar is too stiff, a suspension movement, initially, occurring on only one side of the vehicle, will be transmitted to the other side, inducing an unsettling motion, destablizing the tyre contact patches on both sides.
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26 April 2022, 10:27 PM
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I'm assuming this is just the springs fella? Just read that document and it said that it comes with struts/dampers so are you keeping those for yourself Or is it the full kit? Also how much you asking for if you're selling them cause I'd buy them if money is right
30 April 2022, 12:40 PM
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I'm sure 2pot will be along to give the definitive answer but those are the RB320 springs which really needed the shorter front damper to work correctly. I've got the rears fitted to a set of Koni inserts but then used S05 fronts (which are the same rate but a little longer) to compensate for the fact I was running stock length strut bodies with the Koni's. They are good springs though and it'll perhaps be possible to modify either the bump stops to get the right free length, or find some of the RB320 spec front struts for your car if you're going the whole hog.
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