back with another classic and broke it already!
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back with another classic and broke it already!
Evening used to be on the site many years ago, probably 10. Back then it was crazy busy so not holding out much hope (Facebook kills forums!)
bought another classic version 4 last week as I just wanted something to enjoy and play with I used to have a quick RA but life got in way.
24 hours after buying it I blew the gearbox completely my fault launches it silly and ir Went bang.
Weve put ankfher gearbox in it which wasn’t a particularly nice job. Started it moved it probably 10 foot. Turned it off put intercooler back on and .... wouldn’t start turns over fine just not firing,
iv now been on it for 4 days solid trying to resolve it. So my main question is what sensors do you know that will 100 percent stop car starting. So far it’s had a cam and crank sensor that hasn’t helped at atl,
woersly the other day whilst turning it over I wobbled the main loom plus about and it tried to star. Thinking it was engine loom I pulled that off took it home and tested every wire again nothing wrong with it!
The soonest any speacilist can get it in is 3 weeks well ones I know are good. And for something that I know is going to be stupid I’d like to get it done my self,
it has fuel fuel pressure to injectors
it has apart
it has compression,
can any one think of a reason? I genuinly rebuild the cab on my RA quicker then it’s taken me to try and sort this!
Cheers in advance
bought another classic version 4 last week as I just wanted something to enjoy and play with I used to have a quick RA but life got in way.
24 hours after buying it I blew the gearbox completely my fault launches it silly and ir Went bang.
Weve put ankfher gearbox in it which wasn’t a particularly nice job. Started it moved it probably 10 foot. Turned it off put intercooler back on and .... wouldn’t start turns over fine just not firing,
iv now been on it for 4 days solid trying to resolve it. So my main question is what sensors do you know that will 100 percent stop car starting. So far it’s had a cam and crank sensor that hasn’t helped at atl,
woersly the other day whilst turning it over I wobbled the main loom plus about and it tried to star. Thinking it was engine loom I pulled that off took it home and tested every wire again nothing wrong with it!
The soonest any speacilist can get it in is 3 weeks well ones I know are good. And for something that I know is going to be stupid I’d like to get it done my self,
it has fuel fuel pressure to injectors
it has apart
it has compression,
can any one think of a reason? I genuinly rebuild the cab on my RA quicker then it’s taken me to try and sort this!
Cheers in advance
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Hi pal yeah I think iv only got one earth that goes from car to battery battery to engine.
I moved it back to its original position and no luck iv also had to run it on jump leads as it’s been turned over quite a few times and grounded the jump lead to the engine it’s self and sparked healthy enough,
i really canr see a temp tenso stopping it running running and I can’t see how it would give up in first place just from changing the gearbox.
Only think i can think off after that is the idle control valve (think it’s called that) 3 pin connected on back off inlet, we got box in by me being under it lifting it and my pal being laid across engine lifting it into place. It may have been knocked when trying to get the intercooler back into place as well
again cant see that stopping it trying to fire but worth ago,
past that iv genuinly no idea
I would honestly rather the bottom end be knocking as at least I’d know what to do with it!
This is all all made worse by fact iv got a bigger turbo and injectors and some other bits and bobs waiting to go on it!
I moved it back to its original position and no luck iv also had to run it on jump leads as it’s been turned over quite a few times and grounded the jump lead to the engine it’s self and sparked healthy enough,
i really canr see a temp tenso stopping it running running and I can’t see how it would give up in first place just from changing the gearbox.
Only think i can think off after that is the idle control valve (think it’s called that) 3 pin connected on back off inlet, we got box in by me being under it lifting it and my pal being laid across engine lifting it into place. It may have been knocked when trying to get the intercooler back into place as well
again cant see that stopping it trying to fire but worth ago,
past that iv genuinly no idea
I would honestly rather the bottom end be knocking as at least I’d know what to do with it!
This is all all made worse by fact iv got a bigger turbo and injectors and some other bits and bobs waiting to go on it!
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Pulled the full engine loom and checked it with a multimeter mate all came back ok.
Alarm / immobiliser was a option but iv never known one let a car have spark or fuel as long as a engine has spark fuel compression and air it should run!
Not this !
Broke a fuel rail as well my fault got late and was loosing patience took alternator off and just dropped it a bit too hard landed where air con should be and took fuel rail pipe with it!
Back in day on this site there was a for sale section and wanted section where you’d either get or want what you wanted off some bloke up road have a brew chat crap and leave happy!
Instead Im going to have to buy some of a “speaclist” breakers near me @60 for some standered fuel rails!
there is another breaker near me but he’s a b*ll end.
Rang scooby clinic 3 or 4 times yesterday but no answer, which to be fair was the same back then and kinda glad they didn’t answer as I used to go down and buy loads of second hand stuff I didn’t need but was cheap lol
Alarm / immobiliser was a option but iv never known one let a car have spark or fuel as long as a engine has spark fuel compression and air it should run!
Not this !
Broke a fuel rail as well my fault got late and was loosing patience took alternator off and just dropped it a bit too hard landed where air con should be and took fuel rail pipe with it!
Back in day on this site there was a for sale section and wanted section where you’d either get or want what you wanted off some bloke up road have a brew chat crap and leave happy!
Instead Im going to have to buy some of a “speaclist” breakers near me @60 for some standered fuel rails!
there is another breaker near me but he’s a b*ll end.
Rang scooby clinic 3 or 4 times yesterday but no answer, which to be fair was the same back then and kinda glad they didn’t answer as I used to go down and buy loads of second hand stuff I didn’t need but was cheap lol
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#9
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Not saying that it is ure problem but yes a temp sensor can stop a car running. I had fuel spark and obviously air but just wouldn't fire pulled the temp sensor got a lighter heated the sensor fooling the car to think it's hot turnt the key and boom.
Sound like an earth issue to me have you tried sniff if it runs on that you eliminate the mobiliser
Sound like an earth issue to me have you tried sniff if it runs on that you eliminate the mobiliser
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Rather embarrassingly it’s fixed.......
was flooded
6 days pulling a engine apart changing this that and other.... and turns out it was flooded. Pulled plugs today turned it over with pump off out new plugs in fires and purred away; well idled quite high but one of hot leads is nackered
so shoulda gone for the simple first!
was flooded
6 days pulling a engine apart changing this that and other.... and turns out it was flooded. Pulled plugs today turned it over with pump off out new plugs in fires and purred away; well idled quite high but one of hot leads is nackered
so shoulda gone for the simple first!
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That’s it mate and hopefully I’ll be using it tonight.
At momejt its revinv itself up but all the vac pipes are wrong (I think) so I’m going to crack on with that
and my pals getting under and swapping the diff to match the gearbox that went in
At momejt its revinv itself up but all the vac pipes are wrong (I think) so I’m going to crack on with that
and my pals getting under and swapping the diff to match the gearbox that went in
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Ok so another full day on it and ...... it’s iderling and missing it’s *** off bring it up to higher revs and it’s fine won’t idle and back firing through inlet manifold..
Iv triple checked everything coil pack is ticking and I can’t remember if it’s meant too or not
other then that I can’t work it out! It’s like Rs taking in too much air and when revving fuel is making up for that and being ok.
bit everything is tight
Iv triple checked everything coil pack is ticking and I can’t remember if it’s meant too or not
other then that I can’t work it out! It’s like Rs taking in too much air and when revving fuel is making up for that and being ok.
bit everything is tight
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Got to bottom of this today turns out the inlet bolts weren’t tight enough, and they go a whole lot more then what you think is there breaking point!
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