Notices
Non Scooby Related Anything Non-Scooby related

Which banks don't use a security device for online access?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04 July 2011, 12:46 PM
  #1  
Miniman
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
Miniman's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 995
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Which banks don't use a security device for online access?

HSBC have just advised me that I'll be moving to a credit card devices for secure access. I already have one with Barclays and the wife has one with Nationwide. We're always losing them, plus I like to log on at multiple locations (and don't want to constantly carry it around).

So which banks don't use a security device for online access?
Old 04 July 2011, 12:47 PM
  #2  
Steve vRS
Scooby Regular
 
Steve vRS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Dull White BMW
Posts: 5,052
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

First Direct at the moment but as they are part of HSBC I expect that will soon change...

Steve
Old 04 July 2011, 01:14 PM
  #3  
JayM
Scooby Regular
 
JayM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 67
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Lloyds TSB, Santander, Halifax, RBoS all don't at the moment
Old 04 July 2011, 01:15 PM
  #4  
Terminator X
Owner of SNet
iTrader: (7)
 
Terminator X's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Berkshire
Posts: 11,513
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Why change as their security is top notch?

TX.

Originally Posted by Steve vRS
First Direct at the moment but as they are part of HSBC I expect that will soon change...

Steve
Old 04 July 2011, 01:17 PM
  #5  
Jamz3k
Scooby Regular
 
Jamz3k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 6,736
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

its an absolute pain in the *****, if someone wants to access my bank account, go right ahead as there is **** all in it and trust me i've done more damage to my credit score than anyone else ever could!
Old 04 July 2011, 01:21 PM
  #6  
Steve vRS
Scooby Regular
 
Steve vRS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Dull White BMW
Posts: 5,052
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Terminator X
Why change as their security is top notch?

TX.
Because their parent company sounds like they are changing and as I work for a small part of a HUGE company, we get foisted with all their half baked schemes!

Steve
Old 04 July 2011, 01:24 PM
  #7  
Coffin Dodger
Scooby Regular
 
Coffin Dodger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Bring back infractions!
Posts: 4,554
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

On the one hand it is a pain but then I know my account is much more secure than just a login, password, PIN etc.

At least Barclays have the basic access thing so you don't need the card reader just to check your balance and suchlike.

Also missus is NatWest and also don't need the card reader to log in, just to make payments.
Old 04 July 2011, 01:26 PM
  #8  
Jaybird-UK
Scooby Regular
 
Jaybird-UK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: UK
Posts: 3,447
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I'm the opposite and would welcome two factor authentication on everything I have.

PayPal do it in a nice way, they use SMS https://www.paypal-marketing.co.uk/s...ecurityKey.htm
Old 04 July 2011, 01:26 PM
  #9  
Fantom
Scooby Regular
 
Fantom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Wickford, Essex - GamerTag - lCE
Posts: 2,570
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I also hate these bloody code generator things. Got my HSBC one which I am not prepared to carry around so limits my access to my home now. Thanks crooks.
Luckily Santander have not yet got one so I can still access them on my phone and anywhere else I choose.
Old 04 July 2011, 02:45 PM
  #10  
tony de wonderful
Scooby Regular
 
tony de wonderful's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 10,329
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

HSBC haven't mentioned anything to me yet.

HSBC Australia used this dongle device. I lost it once, took a while to get it replaced. The one I then had developed a fault where 2 or 3 of the digits don't display properly. You can figure out the digits maybe 50% of the time if you are careful. Major PITA and another thing to worry about.
Old 04 July 2011, 04:39 PM
  #11  
Scooby Soon!
Scooby Regular
 
Scooby Soon!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,551
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by JayM
Lloyds TSB, Santander, Halifax, RBoS all don't at the moment
Lloyds Business do (you can not even login with out it!) so I would have through its coming to personal customers soon!
Old 04 July 2011, 04:46 PM
  #12  
boxst
Scooby Regular
 
boxst's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 1998
Posts: 11,905
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

NatWest (RBS I guess) do not have one for day-to-day banking, but you need one to set up a new payee. If they introduce one that is required to just login I will move banks. I already carry around an RSA Secur-ID to get access to my work email, I don't want another one. The whole point of online banking is that I can do it from anywhere ...

Steve
Old 04 July 2011, 06:39 PM
  #13  
Steve_PPP
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
Steve_PPP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: www.southeastscoobies.co.uk
Posts: 2,947
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Scooby Soon!
Lloyds Business do (you can not even login with out it!) so I would have through its coming to personal customers soon!
Oh great

My lloydstsb doesn't need one yet, its one of the reasons i like them! Missus's Nationwide account has one though, annoying as hell!
Old 04 July 2011, 06:43 PM
  #14  
pslewis
Scooby Regular
 
pslewis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Old Codgers Home
Posts: 32,398
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

The most lax I have experienced is Intelligent Finance (Halifax) .....
Old 04 July 2011, 07:31 PM
  #15  
hodgy0_2
Scooby Regular
 
hodgy0_2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: K
Posts: 15,633
Received 21 Likes on 18 Posts
Default

you have to laugh RSA got hacked the other day, they have kept quit quite about it
Old 04 July 2011, 08:51 PM
  #16  
Clarebabes
Scooby Regular
 
Clarebabes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: A big town with sh1t shops: Northampton
Posts: 21,366
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

You can use the same one for all different banks I think. I used a Nationwide one for my Barclays account someone gave me at work and it was fine. Just go in every now and then and ask for another one cos you've lost it. We've got loads
Old 04 July 2011, 08:57 PM
  #17  
chocolate_o_brian
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (22)
 
chocolate_o_brian's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Doncaster, S. Yorks.
Posts: 21,415
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Yep, I'm with HSBC. Got one of these stupid calculator things, set it up - lost it the next day. Haven't been able to get on internet banking since. Mrs has one for her account which won't work on mine

5 working days every time I lose one and I too refuse to carry it around everywhere - which means no more iPhone banking on the go which has actually saved me form charges in the past
Old 04 July 2011, 08:59 PM
  #18  
Clarebabes
Scooby Regular
 
Clarebabes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: A big town with sh1t shops: Northampton
Posts: 21,366
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I think some people are looking at this the wrong way, the banks are doing this to stop fraud! Why are you moaning? Not much of an ask from the banks to keep your money safe is it?
Old 04 July 2011, 09:21 PM
  #19  
boxst
Scooby Regular
 
boxst's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 1998
Posts: 11,905
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
you have to laugh RSA got hacked the other day, they have kept quit quite about it
Well, not that quiet as it was all over The Register etc... And because of that I now have incredibly locked down internet access at work (I work for their parent company).

Steve
Old 04 July 2011, 09:36 PM
  #20  
hodgy0_2
Scooby Regular
 
hodgy0_2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: K
Posts: 15,633
Received 21 Likes on 18 Posts
Default

they have been a bit cagey about the scope and extent of the breach
Old 05 July 2011, 09:19 AM
  #21  
Terminator X
Owner of SNet
iTrader: (7)
 
Terminator X's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Berkshire
Posts: 11,513
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Clarebabes
I think some people are looking at this the wrong way, the banks are doing this to stop fraud! Why are you moaning? Not much of an ask from the banks to keep your money safe is it?
First Direct is damn safe though without it, why change a winning formula.

TX.
Old 06 July 2011, 11:15 AM
  #22  
markb_s1
Scooby Regular
 
markb_s1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 546
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Terminator X
First Direct is damn safe though without it, why change a winning formula.

TX.

your reckon>?

two factor authentication can only be a good thing imo... even if it is a bti of a hassle.


re RSA - it's been all over the news, so hardly kept quiet!
Old 06 July 2011, 12:06 PM
  #23  
GC8
Scooby Regular
 
GC8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Sheffield; Rome of the North
Posts: 17,582
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
HSBC haven't mentioned anything to me yet.

HSBC Australia used this dongle device. I lost it once, took a while to get it replaced. The one I then had developed a fault where 2 or 3 of the digits don't display properly. You can figure out the digits maybe 50% of the time if you are careful. Major PITA and another thing to worry about.
Ive had a small black code generator thing since the beginning of this year!
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
KAS35RSTI
Subaru
27
04 November 2021 07:12 PM
JTaylor
Non Scooby Related
202
25 December 2016 09:14 AM
Sam Witwicky
Engine Management and ECU Remapping
17
13 November 2015 10:49 AM
TylerD529
General Technical
2
09 October 2015 01:53 AM
thunder8
General Technical
0
01 October 2015 09:13 PM



Quick Reply: Which banks don't use a security device for online access?



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 11:56 AM.