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25 September 2010, 11:41 AM
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My grown up daughter has asthma. Not too bad but she gets out of breath if she goes for a run although seems OK swimming.
What can she do about it, if anything? I think she stays off cows milk which makes it worse. Doesn't run in family AFAIK.
Any cures/advice or sufferers on here?
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Thanks, David
What can she do about it, if anything? I think she stays off cows milk which makes it worse. Doesn't run in family AFAIK.
Any cures/advice or sufferers on here?
No mucky remarks - please
Thanks, David
25 September 2010, 11:48 AM
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I'm an asthma sufferer, came on after a bout of pneumonia about 7-8 years ago. Have 2 inhalers, one for when I need a blast for breathlessness and one which I take morning and night regardless. Think the latter is a steriod inhaler and I have to wash my mouth out after exhaling or I get the worst of sore throats.
Having asthma means I can't really run about as much as I used to but I'm very aware of attacks and simply carry two spares at work incase (work in a very dirty environment) of an attack.
I would suggest a review with her GP to see if there is something available which can counteract the symptoms more quickly. Then the body may react more differently overtime to exercise etc? I'm considering this as I'd like to get back into jogging and football to get a bit fitter but without suffocating myself due to a tight chest
HTH
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Having asthma means I can't really run about as much as I used to but I'm very aware of attacks and simply carry two spares at work incase (work in a very dirty environment) of an attack.
I would suggest a review with her GP to see if there is something available which can counteract the symptoms more quickly. Then the body may react more differently overtime to exercise etc? I'm considering this as I'd like to get back into jogging and football to get a bit fitter but without suffocating myself due to a tight chest
HTH
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25 September 2010, 12:58 PM
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speak to your GP about getting her a brown steroid inhaler (to reduce the inflamation) and a blue reliever inhaler (to open airways quickly). EasyHalers are supposed to be good for children and easy to use (I sell them to GPs as a medical sales rep)
25 September 2010, 01:16 PM
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One thing that can affect me is allergies, so come hay fever season, or a dusty environment I find that hay fever tablets help a lot too.
I have also found that good regular exercise helps. Breathing exercises have also helped.
I have also found that good regular exercise helps. Breathing exercises have also helped.
25 September 2010, 01:37 PM
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Get into the habit of using a preventative inhaler, its easy to let slip especially as you then have less attacks which makes you think your ok not taking it all the time. Having asthma shouldnt change your life unless it is really bad. I have asthma and was a 100 and 200 meter sprinter for Kent reserves, I played cricket for Kent and enjoyed playing football, and very very rarely did my asthma cause me any problems, but the use of the preventative is important.
If you find the preventative is not effective you can ask to increase the mg dosage.
If you find the preventative is not effective you can ask to increase the mg dosage.
25 September 2010, 01:40 PM
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bengreen, can I presume you can get them a lot cheaper than I could get them from the chemist? are you able to sell them? anything has to be cheaper than the #7.20 it costs me 2 times a month at the minute.
I was told by someone that I could get my inhalers from france if I had a private prescription, I never did find anywhere on the net though.
James
I was told by someone that I could get my inhalers from france if I had a private prescription, I never did find anywhere on the net though.
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25 September 2010, 02:20 PM
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I was also told by my GP that if you're getting through the inhalers, your dose is wrong, not the amount of inhalers you've got.
I'm on both Ventalin (Blue) and Flixotide (Orange) steroid.
Flixotide is a high intensity one.
In *theory* I should have 2 "inhales" on the Orange one per day, and use the Blue if required. The Doc said that with the correct steroid, an asthma-sufferer should hardly ever have to use the Blue one.
I echo that, but only now they've got my dosages right. And its doesn't stop me doing ANY sports/exercise etc.
Go see the GP, who will start the ball rolling, then the Asthma Nurse will tweak the dosages accordingly.
HTH (Asthma "victim" for the last 30 years )
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I'm on both Ventalin (Blue) and Flixotide (Orange) steroid.
Flixotide is a high intensity one.
In *theory* I should have 2 "inhales" on the Orange one per day, and use the Blue if required. The Doc said that with the correct steroid, an asthma-sufferer should hardly ever have to use the Blue one.
I echo that, but only now they've got my dosages right. And its doesn't stop me doing ANY sports/exercise etc.
Go see the GP, who will start the ball rolling, then the Asthma Nurse will tweak the dosages accordingly.
HTH (Asthma "victim" for the last 30 years
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25 September 2010, 02:31 PM
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Thanks very much chaps, I'll pass comments on to my daughter. As I said thank goodness it is only mild and not really interfering with her life so far. She does seem to get more than her fair share of coughs and colds and I wonder if that is related?
She has been to see her GP a while back but all I know is that a lung function test showed she was pretty low on the scale. In fact her GP should have been put to sleep years ago for her patients' sake so may be she should see someone else which she can now do as she is up in London.
What I haven't a clue about is what asthma actually is and whether it is with you for life or likely to improve or worsen. I guess I'll do some Googling but I do find Googling for medical stuff pretty depressing as results tend to highlight worse case scenarios. I should have been dead for a long time if I had believed half the stuff that Google threw up.
And the word "Steroid" mentioned above worried me slightly or am I wrong on this?
Anyway all these helpful commenst are appreciated
David
She has been to see her GP a while back but all I know is that a lung function test showed she was pretty low on the scale. In fact her GP should have been put to sleep years ago for her patients' sake so may be she should see someone else which she can now do as she is up in London.
What I haven't a clue about is what asthma actually is and whether it is with you for life or likely to improve or worsen. I guess I'll do some Googling but I do find Googling for medical stuff pretty depressing as results tend to highlight worse case scenarios. I should have been dead for a long time if I had believed half the stuff that Google threw up.
And the word "Steroid" mentioned above worried me slightly or am I wrong on this?
Anyway all these helpful commenst are appreciated
David
25 September 2010, 02:40 PM
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Don't be worried.
I suffered TERRIBLY as a kid - brought on by Hay Fever, and allergies to pretty much everything
Got so bad that one Summer, I lived in hospital in an oxygen tent Not pleasant.
Grew out of it for about 15 years, then it came back with a vengeance over the last 2-3 years.....
sh1te happens eh?
Found this article on E-Zines about teh steroid issue.
One most common disease which causes very high discomforts to the patients is Asthma. This notorious disease is a side effect of the environment pollution and earth pollution. Allergenic substances in the atmosphere and the foods cause mainly the symptoms of Asthma. It is a chronic, non curable lung condition by which a person suffers to get enough breath. This condition is characterized by cough, uneasiness in the chest, wheezing and breathing difficulties. There are many treatments for Asthma. Modern technological developments and research brought out innovative treatment plans for Asthma. Some such medicines are those containing steroid. How do steroids help people with Asthma?
Steroids are one of the very effective and potent anti-asthma drugs. These are used in chronic and severe asthmatic attack conditions. But presently it is clinically proven that steroids can be used as part of an anti asthmatic treatment plan even at the beginning level. Steroids work in many ways to give relief from severe asthmatic conditions. Let us discuss the main effects of steroids here.
o The steroids are very effective as bronchodilators. These can effectively widen the airways within a very short time and can sustain for many hours. This will help the patients to breathe more and feel comfortable.
o Steroids are anti inflammatory. Steroids are proven to be very effective in reducing inflammations in airways and lungs. This will effectively treat the swelling in the airways and lungs. This will certainly curtail cough and breathing difficulties. Inflammation in the airways and lungs make the patient wheezing. Wheezing is the symptom which affects the patients' morality psychologically also. Hearing the wheezing sound, the person feels that his lungs got severe problem and this will end up with tension and depression in patients. Steroid can effectively remove wheezing.
o Steroids are effectively used in immunotherapy. The steroids improve the immunization power of the body system and effectively fight against the allergens affective the lungs. Steroid reduces allergen's influence in the organisms.
o Action of steroids in the organisms is very immediate. For immediate relief of the severe asthma attack, inhalers with steroid medicines are found to be highly effective. Hence these steroids play very important role in the immediate relief from the dangerous asthma attack.
o Steroids can effectively improve the vital power of the lungs and breathing systems. This improvement is very essential as the intake of oxygen will only improve the health condition of the patients.
Presently many cortisone steroids are used for against asthma. New researches in the medical field are trying to find ways to avoid the side effects associated with steroid treatments. Let us hope that steroids will pave a way for complete cure of Asthma.
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I suffered TERRIBLY as a kid - brought on by Hay Fever, and allergies to pretty much everything
Got so bad that one Summer, I lived in hospital in an oxygen tent
Not pleasant.Grew out of it for about 15 years, then it came back with a vengeance over the last 2-3 years.....
sh1te happens eh?
Found this article on E-Zines about teh steroid issue.
One most common disease which causes very high discomforts to the patients is Asthma. This notorious disease is a side effect of the environment pollution and earth pollution. Allergenic substances in the atmosphere and the foods cause mainly the symptoms of Asthma. It is a chronic, non curable lung condition by which a person suffers to get enough breath. This condition is characterized by cough, uneasiness in the chest, wheezing and breathing difficulties. There are many treatments for Asthma. Modern technological developments and research brought out innovative treatment plans for Asthma. Some such medicines are those containing steroid. How do steroids help people with Asthma?
Steroids are one of the very effective and potent anti-asthma drugs. These are used in chronic and severe asthmatic attack conditions. But presently it is clinically proven that steroids can be used as part of an anti asthmatic treatment plan even at the beginning level. Steroids work in many ways to give relief from severe asthmatic conditions. Let us discuss the main effects of steroids here.
o The steroids are very effective as bronchodilators. These can effectively widen the airways within a very short time and can sustain for many hours. This will help the patients to breathe more and feel comfortable.
o Steroids are anti inflammatory. Steroids are proven to be very effective in reducing inflammations in airways and lungs. This will effectively treat the swelling in the airways and lungs. This will certainly curtail cough and breathing difficulties. Inflammation in the airways and lungs make the patient wheezing. Wheezing is the symptom which affects the patients' morality psychologically also. Hearing the wheezing sound, the person feels that his lungs got severe problem and this will end up with tension and depression in patients. Steroid can effectively remove wheezing.
o Steroids are effectively used in immunotherapy. The steroids improve the immunization power of the body system and effectively fight against the allergens affective the lungs. Steroid reduces allergen's influence in the organisms.
o Action of steroids in the organisms is very immediate. For immediate relief of the severe asthma attack, inhalers with steroid medicines are found to be highly effective. Hence these steroids play very important role in the immediate relief from the dangerous asthma attack.
o Steroids can effectively improve the vital power of the lungs and breathing systems. This improvement is very essential as the intake of oxygen will only improve the health condition of the patients.
Presently many cortisone steroids are used for against asthma. New researches in the medical field are trying to find ways to avoid the side effects associated with steroid treatments. Let us hope that steroids will pave a way for complete cure of Asthma.
Robert Grazian is an accomplished niche website developer and author.
To learn more about how do steroids help people with asthma [http://myasthmaprevention.info/how-d...e-with-asthma] visit My Asthma Prevention [http://myasthmaprevention.info] for current articles and discussions.
Article Source: http://EzineArticles.com/?expert=Robert_Grazian
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She has been to see her GP a while back but all I know is that a lung function test showed she was pretty low on the scale. In fact her GP should have been put to sleep years ago for her patients' sake so may be she should see someone else which she can now do as she is up in London.
I was first diagnosed at age 4 and although it is much milder now (I'm 32) it's still here and probably will be for life. However, doctors don't know whether it will stay the same, get worse or better or what triggers this.
There is clearly a genetic component to this in my family (cousins have it, great uncle died from it, Dad probably had it in a mild form when young from the symptoms he describes, my son is starting to show signs of it) but again, there is still not a huge amount of clarity as to what the genes are.
All in all, if your daughter does the right stuff (take her inhalers when she should do etc) then from what I've seen of me and other people with it then she'd be very unlucky if it affects her life too much.
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Thanks for all the useful info. Much of it seems a bit shrouded in mystery. But when she's my age there will probably be a pill that sorts it out immediately. Along with a selection of pills which gives one a choice of living to 120, 140 or the super 200
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I've had very mild asthma for quite some time. The only inhaler I've used is bricanyl (Turbutalane Sulphate) both in aerosol and turbohaler versions. I use it as an when I need it. It is not steroid based as ventolin (brown inhaler) is, and I've always tried to steer clear of ventolin, just something about it being stronger and thus you'll depend on it even more.
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My grandmother had it all her life, as far as i know
Blighted her existance to some extent , always within distance of a puffer blue,green other colours as well possibly . She was slight hypercondriac possibly anyway but i certainly felt for her over this one . Took prednisolone for a very lomg time which did nothing for her skin
She was going to leave to asthma research , not sure if she did
Blighted her existance to some extent , always within distance of a puffer blue,green other colours as well possibly . She was slight hypercondriac possibly anyway but i certainly felt for her over this one . Took prednisolone for a very lomg time which did nothing for her skin
She was going to leave to asthma research , not sure if she did
26 September 2010, 01:46 AM
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I had asthma as a child, then a gap of about 10 years and came back all of a sudden playing tennis
Always had the blue ventolin and light brown preventer but to be honest the preventer did nothing for me
was recently given a new inhaler - pink, Fostair inhaler which does away with the others, prob use once a day or once every two days and is the best I have used
just prior to this I had a dark brown inhaler Modulite which was also good but only used it once then given the pink one
Always had the blue ventolin and light brown preventer but to be honest the preventer did nothing for me
was recently given a new inhaler - pink, Fostair inhaler which does away with the others, prob use once a day or once every two days and is the best I have used
just prior to this I had a dark brown inhaler Modulite which was also good but only used it once then given the pink one
26 September 2010, 12:14 PM
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It was only until adulthood that I actually realised that my asthma was mainly allergy based and found what I'm allergic to.
Thats the thing that peeved me off with the GPs and NHS; for my entire childhood and most of my life its prescribed steriods and drugs for this, without any tests to find out what actually caused it!
When a decent allergy test with a specialist could have sorted most of it without any need for drugs. Not only that, its also some of those allergies that affects my stomach and throat problems.
Turns out I'm allergic to dust mite feaces (usual) compounded by animal sweat (poor Rolly has to have a weekly bath when I'm around
), eggs, certain nuts (only large quantities), certain cheeses (one particular Spanish vareity gives me stomach spasms that leave me doubled up in agony), and milk/cream drunk in large quantities. Not to forget certain tree pollens (yup, heyfever, odly, I'm not allergic to grass pollen though).
Sorted out most of the above issues via avoidance; and guess what? Asthma sorted, Throat sorted, Stomach sorted.
Also because I don't need the steroids as much, I don't get colds anywhere near as much! I used to get a cold about four times a year, which use to put me out for the best part of two weeks being unable to breath for the whole duration (of which the drugs made no difference), now I just get the odd one, of which only affects me for a few days.
Keeping the house clean is a royal PITA; Bissel/karcher carpet washer twice a year, HEPA filters on teh hoover, vacuum all the dust off surfaces instead of wiping (dusters will just spread it and put it in the air). And basically avoid going into any filthy houses: 5mins in our neighbour's house -(2dogs and a cat, never washed/groomed which are hand fed and always drop food onto teh carpet - urrgh)) will leave me gasping for breath and needing to go outside.
Thats the thing that peeved me off with the GPs and NHS; for my entire childhood and most of my life its prescribed steriods and drugs for this, without any tests to find out what actually caused it!
When a decent allergy test with a specialist could have sorted most of it without any need for drugs. Not only that, its also some of those allergies that affects my stomach and throat problems.Turns out I'm allergic to dust mite feaces (usual) compounded by animal sweat (poor Rolly has to have a weekly bath when I'm around
), eggs, certain nuts (only large quantities), certain cheeses (one particular Spanish vareity gives me stomach spasms that leave me doubled up in agony), and milk/cream drunk in large quantities. Not to forget certain tree pollens (yup, heyfever, odly, I'm not allergic to grass pollen though).Sorted out most of the above issues via avoidance; and guess what? Asthma sorted, Throat sorted, Stomach sorted.
Also because I don't need the steroids as much, I don't get colds anywhere near as much! I used to get a cold about four times a year, which use to put me out for the best part of two weeks being unable to breath for the whole duration (of which the drugs made no difference), now I just get the odd one, of which only affects me for a few days.
Keeping the house clean is a royal PITA; Bissel/karcher carpet washer twice a year, HEPA filters on teh hoover, vacuum all the dust off surfaces instead of wiping (dusters will just spread it and put it in the air). And basically avoid going into any filthy houses: 5mins in our neighbour's house -(2dogs and a cat, never washed/groomed which are hand fed and always drop food onto teh carpet - urrgh)) will leave me gasping for breath and needing to go outside.
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My ole nan wasnt at all keen on anybody cleaning , cos it 'raised the dust'
which she'd determined was the biggest contibutor to her asthma !
which she'd determined was the biggest contibutor to her asthma !
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