warrenm2

Apparently they're going to have to wait for em now! Phew - just in time for the election! Gosh, wrong for all those years - who would have thought it?

Immigrants will have to wait 10 years to claim council housing in massive benefits clampdown | Mail Online

Luke

And lets kick out all the lazy chav families that have done nothing for generations. They to also drain this country .

The Zohan

Lukes point is valid, both immigrants and chavs can be a problems

It is nice to see the immigrant one being tackled at last and about time, same regards the chavs with forthcoming changes to benefits

dpb

So what about our indigenous sponger familys of which have never lifted a finger in thier bloody lives

- is he going to dock them 5 years as well ..!

GC8

They do, but theyre indigenous wasters. In Sheffield there are FAR too many bogus assylum seeking worthless scrubbers spreading crime and disease and we have enough on with the filth who belong here, let alone the filth who see as as a soft touch...

dpb

The truth is if the immigration service was working anywhere near efficiently this wouldnt even be an isssue - most genuine migrants are NOT going to hang around on the dole because there just isnt enough money in it .

GC8

The truth is that there are worthwhile and worthless migrants. Unfortunately its the worthless migrants who're getting the easy ride from this shower of b*stards. Genuine and worthwhile migrants are a far easier target for displays of strength, but the wasters are treated differently. The sooner that this massive difference in types of migrants is acknowledged the sooner a solution can be sought. Currently of course, theyre all bundled in together to suit socialist spin.

The Zohan

Spot on!

cster

If you pay people to do nothing, you can hardly blame them for doing it!
At least with an immigrant, there is a chance they will get on with it - aspirations and so forth.

Diesel

Hard working immigrants milking the system (and supplying basic services for reasonable rates (think painting for £10 an hour) or indigenous chavvy wasters milking nothing? Hmmm? Over to the third reich for their call

D (bit to the right of left tonight LOL)

Mus

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the whole set up by the government is wrong, even if this immigrants get jobs, lets say a couple with 3 kids husband,wife and three kids. the most they would earn is about 2000 per month combined income and thats if they are realy lucky.
based in london 1200 rent for three bed house in london pcm
200 council tax
50 pounds electric
50 pounds gas
250 food shopping
100 transport
150 kids stuff
forget tv license and phone bills and everything we take for granted.
so if you try to incourage them to work it wont be worth there while.
living cost is way too high it just doesnt cover it.

i know some of you might think 1250 pcm for a house is a lot. thats what a colombian family thought and ended up moving to newcastle and they ended up been victimised with there car windows smashed bricks throught the windows of there house. so its a struggle people its good to look at it from both sides.

i use to have a similar mentality i used to pay 600pounds in taxes plus N.I plus house bills and council tax before the credit crunch.

and i thought to myself when was the last time i used the public services??? but all of in here no matter who you are you have a friend,uncle,brother,sister x girlfriend, or some one that you know is claiming from the government or has had an operation which was funded by the NHS or once had been burgled and called the police or your kids go to government school. so it kind of evens it self out.

and in regards to this immigrants had we left there countries alone in the first place they wouldnt be here, and whoever complains about immigrants taking our jobs is silly because we have more of an advantage we speak read and write. they only thing they have over is us i the hunger to survive.

p.s by the way i know there is immigrants out there abusing the system but thats down to the government o deal with, where ever you go in the world there no such a thing as perfect people.

c-o-l-e

Chavs were always our problem and there will always be some element like chavs, but to take on more from other countries makes things worse.

Lisawrx

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You are right in terms of there are always people who will abuse the system, and that is what needs tweeked somehow to make it either more difficult or less appealing.

I personally don't gaf, who comes to this country providing they work and pay their way. If they are contributing to society then I have no problem. I almost even have time for those, British or not who will fiddle a little to get by, as if it comes to that to live, it says to me again the system needs looked at.

What I can't stand is anyone who won't work, whatever their excuse as they think the world owes them something. I don't discriminate depending on their background. I know people and have kown people who do exactly that, and nothing annoys me more when I think I work in a **** job, to pay my way, and don't get me wrong I've made my own mistakes, but I carry on until I can make my life better, I don't expect others to do it for me.

boxst

I have known quite a lot of immigrants (most of whom were on the wrong side of being legal at the time) and they all worked extremely hard doing things that needed to be done: Waitressing / cleaning etc. I am even married to a delightful Polish girl.

However, I never understood why immigrants are entitled to housing at all or things such as child benefit. There should be some criteria, working for x number of years, applying for citizenship, just something rather than getting benefits without contributing.

Steve

Mus

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there is over 90k scoobynetters i would say more than 70% are tax payers we are been taxed to death, add the VAT on that .45% of you earnings go to tax and VAT one way or another, the government needs to concentrate on uk not other parts of the world, we are going through this never ending credit crunch thats screwed up most of our lives left some of us homless. while this government is too busy fighting wars that dont benfit any of us here its actuley done the opposite.

in order for this econmy to improve the government need to tighten up things on benfit fraud stop the war build more schools hospitals,shopping centers more policing i mean in a country that you pay tax you cant walk the street at certain times.

over 100million has been spent on these wars how many schools or hospitals they could of built and then hardly anyone would be jobless or wouldnt have an excuse to be jobless. and then they wonder why kids in certain parts in the country under achieve.
shutting the door in immigration is a start but there other factors you got to take in to account.

p.s sorry bit of the subject but its all related.

djmisio85

finally

I just hope that the government follow through with this

I personally, have a bit of history. My family is Polish, my grandparents came over to Great Britain because of the war, but when they were accepted into the British society, they worked hard and followed the rules

My dad also came over to England from Ploand, but when he was younger, and not to seek assylum, but to study for his university degree in metalurgy. He then went back to Poland, graduated, and got a job in England with his degree

I myself am also an immigrant, in Japan. I studied hard to graduate from university, and am working hard to be able to stay here. I am also studying Japanese very hard, and some could say that I am nearly fluent, if not fluent already

just thought id give people a taster of what its like

cossie-nutter

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