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Old Sep 13, 2015 | 08:02 PM
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Default Immigration...the ex-Eastern bloc says no.

Seen on TV tonite, protests in the ex eastern bloc countries about immigrants coming into Europe. The Poles say no, they object to the "islamification" of both Poland and the EC.

Po's just went up in my estimation!
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Old Sep 13, 2015 | 08:06 PM
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Are we too late to say 'no' to loads of crap, dodgy car washes opening up, and cranky old VW's pushing out loads of emissions, all with 'PL' on the number plate?

Ah, yes we are....
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Old Sep 13, 2015 | 08:27 PM
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Marvellous ain't it,their quick enough to get their ***** over here ....

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Old Sep 13, 2015 | 08:49 PM
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Are we too late to say 'no' to loads of crap, dodgy car washes opening up, and cranky old VW's pushing out loads of emissions, all with 'PL' on the number plate?

Ah, yes we are....
Its to late for this country to be saved.To many weak willed at the helm,destroyed the nation over the years.
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Old Sep 13, 2015 | 09:32 PM
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And Lieing labour lieing to us for 13 years.

With some "stick it to the right wing" agenda to multi-culturalise the UK.
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Old Sep 13, 2015 | 09:50 PM
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And Lieing labour lieing to us for 13 years.

With some "stick it to the right wing" agenda to multi-culturalise the UK.
So we weren't multicultural before 97?

Blimey I didn't realise that.

All these strange foreigners and their strange words seems to have seriously impacted on the way we spell

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And Lieing labour lieing to us for 13 years.

With some "stick it to the right wing" agenda to multi-culturalise the UK.
Well fortunately we live in a democracy (at last for the moment), so you know what to do when it's time to vote, do what they'll be doing all over Europe and get Right Wing parties into power. Le Pen is currently topping the polls in France, and there's been a huge swing to the Right in Nordic countries.

This is direct consequence of stupid liberal policies and adopting multi-culturalism, when integration should have been the way forward. Is it the 1930's all over again? Let's hope not, but we need some common sense back into politics in place of this liberal PC bull$hit that's been sucking the life out of European countries.
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Well fortunately we live in a democracy (at last for the moment), so you know what to do when it's time to vote, do what they'll be doing all over Europe and get Right Wing parties into power. Le Pen is currently topping the polls in France, and there's been a huge swing to the Right in Nordic countries.

This is direct consequence of stupid liberal policies and adopting multi-culturalism, when integration should have been the way forward. Is it the 1930's all over again? Let's hope not, but we need some common sense back into politics in place of this liberal PC bull$hit that's been sucking the life out of European countries.

Do you prefer to have the ***** in power ???
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Well fortunately we live in a democracy (at last for the moment), so you know what to do when it's time to vote, do what they'll be doing all over Europe and get Right Wing parties into power. Le Pen is currently topping the polls in France, and there's been a huge swing to the Right in Nordic countries.

This is direct consequence of stupid liberal policies and adopting multi-culturalism, when integration should have been the way forward. Is it the 1930's all over again? Let's hope not, but we need some common sense back into politics in place of this liberal PC bull$hit that's been sucking the life out of European countries.
I get what you are saying, but I'm not sure what you think the answer should of been?

Also silly slogans like Liberal PC bs etc, really are meaningless and actually detract from your argument.
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Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler 75
Do you prefer to have the ***** in power ???
You demonstrate perfectly one of the issues we are up against here - people have been force-fed liberal ideologies so much that anything 'right wing' is considered to be the Third Reich reborn. It doesn't help having the state-run broadcaster forcing a liberal viewpoint down everyones throats I guess, but right wing does not mean putting crazy policies into force like 'deport everyone who looks a bit foreign'.

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Well I'm out here in Croatia and the vast majority here don't want it either, not really spoken to anyone that's for letting in a load of foreigners, fortunately they don't seem to mind me too much funny thing is there are 8 million Croatians but only 4 million in the country.
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Originally Posted by Petem95
You demonstrate perfectly one of the issues we are up against here - people have been force-fed liberal ideologies so much that anything 'right wing' is considered to be Third Reich reborn. It doesn't help having the state-run broadcaster forcing a liberal viewpoint down everyones throats I guess.
You still haven't answered my question though ......
Do you see me as part of the problem??

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Old Sep 13, 2015 | 10:33 PM
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Well I'm out here in Croatia and the vast majority here don't want it either, not really spoken to anyone that's for letting in a load of foreigners, fortunately they don't seem to mind me too much funny thing is there are 8 million Croatians but only 4 million in the country.
I thought you said they didn't mind you
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Originally Posted by An0n0m0us
I thought you said they didn't mind you


Well I didn't want to overstate my popularity, but most of them Emigrated after WW2 so I don't think it had much to do with me.

A side note, plenty of people I know are now in the UK working, most in bars in London and that's just from a small area with a population of around 8/10,000.
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I get what you are saying, but I'm not sure what you think the answer should of been?

Also silly slogans like Liberal PC bs etc, really are meaningless and actually detract from your argument.
Well its easy to point out the problem. If we look at post '97 when Labour came into power they firstly opened up the flood gates to massive immigration from developing countries such as Pakistan and Bangladesh allowing hundreds of thousands to settle in the UK who are in the most part dependant on government (and thus majority Labour voters, cementing future re-election prospects). This was funded by hugely irresponsible policies such as selling off 1/3 of the UK's gold reserves when gold prices were extremely low, borrowing vast sums and also putting huge future pressure on future tax payers with staggering amounts of government jobs being created with unfunded final salary pensions (i.e. when they retire there is no 'fund' to pay these pensions, the liability is on tax payers - these liabilities may not even be possible to meet).

What should we have done? Well they should not have sold off gold reserves when prices were so low, they should not have borrowed huge sums and put such crippling future liabilities on future tax payers. Skilled immigration should have been encouraged, especially to those in the right demographic (probably targeting countries where there are 'cheap' skilled workers that integrate and are less likely to become state dependant - India, China, Eastern Europe).

I know it's possible to pick holes in any argument, but I believe the damage done during the '97- Labour term will have repercussions for many years to come. Governments should not be allowed to borrow vast sums to meet their election promises, then leave future governments, not to mention taxpayers, in a really **** situation.

We need to get things onto a stable and sustainable economic and social footing ASAP, or people are going to experience situations in the UK that would have seemed unimaginable since the end of WW2.
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Originally Posted by Petem95
You demonstrate perfectly one of the issues we are up against here - people have been force-fed liberal ideologies so much that anything 'right wing' is considered to be the Third Reich reborn. It doesn't help having the state-run broadcaster forcing a liberal viewpoint down everyones throats I guess, but right wing does not mean putting crazy policies into force like 'deport everyone who looks a bit foreign'.
+1 and more calmly put than I would have managed right now
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****ing UKIP to the rescue ........
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Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler 75
****ing UKIP to the rescue ........
You need saving from yourself!

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Old Sep 14, 2015 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
So we weren't multicultural before 97?

Blimey I didn't realise that.

All these strange foreigners and their strange words seems to have seriously impacted on the way we spell
You are prevaricating again...you know as well as I who opened the floodgates, just as we both know why.
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Is Multicultural society seen as a Christian town bordering a Muslim town etc or a town with inhabitants of all races?

I always think New York is a great example of how Multiculture can work but when you think about it the US is infamous for having quarters. Italian quarter, Jewish quarter etc.
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
Is Multicultural society seen as a Christian town bordering a Muslim town etc or a town with inhabitants of all races?

I always think New York is a great example of how Multiculture can work but when you think about it the US is infamous for having quarters. Italian quarter, Jewish quarter etc.
What do you think ?
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Seen on TV tonite, protests in the ex eastern bloc countries about immigrants coming into Europe. The Poles say no, they object to the "islamification" of both Poland and the EC.

Po's just went up in my estimation!

Eastern Europe migrants are legal to travel and work within EU


next leagal immigrants outside EU needs Visa and working permit
illegal (without Visa)like those from Your post do not have right to cross EU borders
EE members are against muslims not against illegal immigration,they do not have problem with EU members like You.(why You join, You are not even in Europe just small island)
If You like them take them All


Check database how many EE members came ,how many from outside, how many illegal.
Complains only people on small wages, HM take You off benefits
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Originally Posted by Petem95
Well its easy to point out the problem. If we look at post '97 when Labour came into power they firstly opened up the flood gates to massive immigration from developing countries such as Pakistan and Bangladesh allowing hundreds of thousands to settle in the UK who are in the most part dependant on government (and thus majority Labour voters, cementing future re-election prospects). This was funded by hugely irresponsible policies such as selling off 1/3 of the UK's gold reserves when gold prices were extremely low, borrowing vast sums and also putting huge future pressure on future tax payers with staggering amounts of government jobs being created with unfunded final salary pensions (i.e. when they retire there is no 'fund' to pay these pensions, the liability is on tax payers - these liabilities may not even be possible to meet).

What should we have done? Well they should not have sold off gold reserves when prices were so low, they should not have borrowed huge sums and put such crippling future liabilities on future tax payers. Skilled immigration should have been encouraged, especially to those in the right demographic (probably targeting countries where there are 'cheap' skilled workers that integrate and are less likely to become state dependant - India, China, Eastern Europe).

I know it's possible to pick holes in any argument, but I believe the damage done during the '97- Labour term will have repercussions for many years to come. Governments should not be allowed to borrow vast sums to meet their election promises, then leave future governments, not to mention taxpayers, in a really **** situation.

We need to get things onto a stable and sustainable economic and social footing ASAP, or people are going to experience situations in the UK that would have seemed unimaginable since the end of WW2.
Firstly, I'd really love to see some stats to back up some of your assertions here.

You seem to of conflated a multitude of issues, some of which are pretty tenuous
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Originally Posted by alcazar
You are prevaricating again...you know as well as I who opened the floodgates, just as we both know why.
'Floodgates' - LOL
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LOL indeed: 10,000 predicted, over a million arrive?
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Originally Posted by alcazar
LOL indeed: 10,000 predicted, over a million arrive?
and what happend, You have no job no benefits


EE avoid this and other things
https://uk.screen.yahoo.com/factual/...111507496.html
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Martin2005 is overwhelmed that the rest of his family is 'finally' joining him!!!





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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Firstly, I'd really love to see some stats to back up some of your assertions here.

You seem to of conflated a multitude of issues, some of which are pretty tenuous
What stats do you see Martin, and I'll see what I can find.
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Immigration isn't a bad thing but needs to be checked and controlled.I see the refugees in Germany are waving the ISIS flags.
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No, no, apparently not, it's all a mistake.

When all this eventually kicks off and goes **** up, (and I don't say "if", I say "when"), I think the media and mouthy, lefty do-gooders need to be prosecuted for treason.
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