South Africa...... Yeah right!
19 September 2006, 11:19 AM
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South Africa...... Yeah right!
Can anyone remeber that SA chap that warned us a while back how crime ridden and dangerous it had become over there....... and received a torrent of abuse because he didn't know what he was on about?
Sounds rather nice...........
Originally Posted by JOHANNESBURG (Reuters)
- A British tourist in South Africa was forced to take anti-AIDS drugs after a robber bit his finger to steal his wedding ring.
South Africa's News24 Web site said two British couples celebrating 30 and 35 years of marriage were attacked in the coastal city of Port Elizabeth and robbed of their wedding rings, cellphones and cameras.
One man was bitten as the robber used his teeth to drag the ring off his finger, and is taking anti-retroviral treatment to cap his chances of contracting HIV in one of the world's worst hit countries, the Web site said, citing local police.
South Africa's News24 Web site said two British couples celebrating 30 and 35 years of marriage were attacked in the coastal city of Port Elizabeth and robbed of their wedding rings, cellphones and cameras.
One man was bitten as the robber used his teeth to drag the ring off his finger, and is taking anti-retroviral treatment to cap his chances of contracting HIV in one of the world's worst hit countries, the Web site said, citing local police.
19 September 2006, 11:30 AM
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When I was in Kenya a while ago a woman had her camera stolen, unfortunately for her she had the strap around her wrist, but rather than wait for her to un-strap it, the thief chose to lop off her arm with a Machete 
19 September 2006, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Flatcapdriver
Yeah, tourists never get mugged in the UK.
But not by a bunch of aids infested afro-gollums who bite the feckin wedding rings from your fingers...........
19 September 2006, 01:17 PM
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I've been to Port Elizabeth. Better than Jo'berg.....
...Not by much though
I know why there are so many south-african nurses working in our hospitals, and its not just for the money
...Not by much though
I know why there are so many south-african nurses working in our hospitals, and its not just for the money
19 September 2006, 01:31 PM
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I know a couple of South Africans.
One was a cop for about 15 years and ended up emigrating when he started having psychological problems after shooting so many people in township riots. He used to tell me horrendous storys about how his small squad of men would be dropped off and expected to quell/disperse a riot of say 5000+ people. Basically they had to just go in shooting and keep shooting until people got the message and started dispersing. And this happened pretty regularly. He also told me many stories about all the murders they had to clear up every day, from gang fights, robberies etc etc.
The other guy, well his dad owns a farm. His dad has had people try to carjack him 3 times in the last 5 years, each time he shot his way out of it as the carjackers were armed with machetes etc. Apparently in the area they live, the carjackers will quite happily murder all the car occupants just to steal the car - there's very little value placed on human life.
A colleague of mine was there on business for 6 months a few years ago, he got robbed at gunpoint and taken to a cashpoint where he was forced to draw out the maximum on each card, then they drove him to his rented house and forced him to open up so they could rob all the valuables. Amazingly they didn't kill him.
Though apparently some places are quite nice.
One was a cop for about 15 years and ended up emigrating when he started having psychological problems after shooting so many people in township riots. He used to tell me horrendous storys about how his small squad of men would be dropped off and expected to quell/disperse a riot of say 5000+ people. Basically they had to just go in shooting and keep shooting until people got the message and started dispersing. And this happened pretty regularly. He also told me many stories about all the murders they had to clear up every day, from gang fights, robberies etc etc.
The other guy, well his dad owns a farm. His dad has had people try to carjack him 3 times in the last 5 years, each time he shot his way out of it as the carjackers were armed with machetes etc. Apparently in the area they live, the carjackers will quite happily murder all the car occupants just to steal the car - there's very little value placed on human life.
A colleague of mine was there on business for 6 months a few years ago, he got robbed at gunpoint and taken to a cashpoint where he was forced to draw out the maximum on each card, then they drove him to his rented house and forced him to open up so they could rob all the valuables. Amazingly they didn't kill him.
Though apparently some places are quite nice.
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19 September 2006, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Iwan
I know a couple of South Africans.
One was a cop for about 15 years and ended up emigrating when he started having psychological problems after shooting so many people in township riots. He used to tell me horrendous storys about how his small squad of men would be dropped off and expected to quell/disperse a riot of say 5000+ people. Basically they had to just go in shooting and keep shooting until people got the message and started dispersing. And this happened pretty regularly. He also told me many stories about all the murders they had to clear up every day, from gang fights, robberies etc etc.
The other guy, well his dad owns a farm. His dad has had people try to carjack him 3 times in the last 5 years, each time he shot his way out of it as the carjackers were armed with machetes etc. Apparently in the area they live, the carjackers will quite happily murder all the car occupants just to steal the car - there's very little value placed on human life.
A colleague of mine was there on business for 6 months a few years ago, he got robbed at gunpoint and taken to a cashpoint where he was forced to draw out the maximum on each card, then they drove him to his rented house and forced him to open up so they could rob all the valuables. Amazingly they didn't kill him.
Though apparently some places are quite nice.
One was a cop for about 15 years and ended up emigrating when he started having psychological problems after shooting so many people in township riots. He used to tell me horrendous storys about how his small squad of men would be dropped off and expected to quell/disperse a riot of say 5000+ people. Basically they had to just go in shooting and keep shooting until people got the message and started dispersing. And this happened pretty regularly. He also told me many stories about all the murders they had to clear up every day, from gang fights, robberies etc etc.
The other guy, well his dad owns a farm. His dad has had people try to carjack him 3 times in the last 5 years, each time he shot his way out of it as the carjackers were armed with machetes etc. Apparently in the area they live, the carjackers will quite happily murder all the car occupants just to steal the car - there's very little value placed on human life.
A colleague of mine was there on business for 6 months a few years ago, he got robbed at gunpoint and taken to a cashpoint where he was forced to draw out the maximum on each card, then they drove him to his rented house and forced him to open up so they could rob all the valuables. Amazingly they didn't kill him.
Though apparently some places are quite nice.
19 September 2006, 02:09 PM
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LOL has anyone commenting actually been there? Think you will be surprised what goes on in some what more 'developed' countries...
Ever been on holiday to the states for example?
Or Portugal is another good example of where tourists are successfully kept in the dark about the ghetto problems etc.
Look at the external view of London as an example - would you want to go there? Every day there are muggings car theft, burglary etc - just the other day a bus driver was attacked by a guy with a supposidly 'infected' hyperdermic needle - there is a measured threat of terrorist activity gun crime and no go areas etc. but yet approx 13 million people live there
Yes South African cities have more than its fair share of problems but so do a lot of big cities,
I am lucky enough to have visited the garden route - between cape town and port elizabeth we listened to the locals advice and were perfectly safe and had a great time
all imho of course
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Ever been on holiday to the states for example?
Or Portugal is another good example of where tourists are successfully kept in the dark about the ghetto problems etc.
Look at the external view of London as an example - would you want to go there? Every day there are muggings car theft, burglary etc - just the other day a bus driver was attacked by a guy with a supposidly 'infected' hyperdermic needle - there is a measured threat of terrorist activity gun crime and no go areas etc. but yet approx 13 million people live there
Yes South African cities have more than its fair share of problems but so do a lot of big cities,
I am lucky enough to have visited the garden route - between cape town and port elizabeth we listened to the locals advice and were perfectly safe and had a great time
all imho of course
Andy
19 September 2006, 03:04 PM
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The wife's been a few times to Joberg. Last time she was out there I get a phone call from her in the restaurant "Carnivore" telling me that she was having Impala and Zebra meat the lucky wench! 
19 September 2006, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MooseRacer
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19 September 2006, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Moley_WRX
A guy i worked with went to South Africa.
Loved every minute, and wants to go back
Loved every minute, and wants to go back
19 September 2006, 03:26 PM
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The original post was on the back of an extremely racist website and following posts basically said "what do you expect if you let blacks run a country". The poster was a young white South African who wanted out.
In my view he was conveniently forgetting the damage done to relations by many years of white dominance and refusal to offer much education to the black population.
I lived in J'Burg for 3 years a while back and yes it is a pretty rough place nowadays which is very sad as it is a stunning country, politics aside.
For the record I complained to the mods that the comments about blacks were racist but nothing was done. dl
In my view he was conveniently forgetting the damage done to relations by many years of white dominance and refusal to offer much education to the black population.
I lived in J'Burg for 3 years a while back and yes it is a pretty rough place nowadays which is very sad as it is a stunning country, politics aside.
For the record I complained to the mods that the comments about blacks were racist but nothing was done. dl
19 September 2006, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by David Lock
The original post was on the back of an extremely racist website and following posts basically said "what do you expect if you let blacks run a country". The poster was a young white South African who wanted out.
In my view he was conveniently forgetting the damage done to relations by many years of white dominance and refusal to offer much education to the black population.
I lived in J'Burg for 3 years a while back and yes it is a pretty rough place nowadays which is very sad as it is a stunning country, politics aside.
For the record I complained to the mods that the comments about blacks were racist but nothing was done. dl
In my view he was conveniently forgetting the damage done to relations by many years of white dominance and refusal to offer much education to the black population.
I lived in J'Burg for 3 years a while back and yes it is a pretty rough place nowadays which is very sad as it is a stunning country, politics aside.
For the record I complained to the mods that the comments about blacks were racist but nothing was done. dl
FFS the best thing about the place was Live Aid and Live 8...............
19 September 2006, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by David Lock
The best thing about SA was Mandela who is head and shoulders above any other world leader. And yes I know he was a "terrorist".
19 September 2006, 04:10 PM
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Is Carnivore a chain across Africa. I've only been to the one in Nairobi.
Zebra (crap horse) crocodile etc
No bloody giraffe steaks that day..... And Nairobi was an amazing piece of sewerage! Dont stop!
Zebra (crap horse) crocodile etc
No bloody giraffe steaks that day..... And Nairobi was an amazing piece of sewerage! Dont stop!
19 September 2006, 04:17 PM
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Is Carnivore a chain across Africa. I've only been to the one in Nairobi.
Zebra (crap horse) crocodile etc
Zebra (crap horse) crocodile etc
19 September 2006, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by David Lock
The best thing about SA was Mandela who is head and shoulders above any other world leader. And yes I know he was a "terrorist".
19 September 2006, 04:19 PM
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Guy I work with has a house out there. Not sure where but he opens his curtains and looks out over the golf course.
He says its all fenced in etc but thats more for wildlife than wild humans.
Still wouldn't be my first choice.
He says its all fenced in etc but thats more for wildlife than wild humans.
Still wouldn't be my first choice.
19 September 2006, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by David Lock
For the record I complained to the mods that the comments about blacks were racist but nothing was done. dl
19 September 2006, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Jerome
At least one racist post has been removed, but not others.
19 September 2006, 04:39 PM
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Depends where it is. A lot of it is total rumours and scaremonegring from people who have never been.
I recently went to Cape Town for 2 weeks. Not even a sniff of trouble. Half my familyare from SA / Zim and there are areas that are bad, but I feel Cape Town is as safe as anywhere ive been!
Im afraid the downfall of somewher like this is having such a rapid U turn in employment. You have a lot of uneducated black's (and that isnt racist) doing jobs that they are not qualified for, simply because they have to be equally, or preferencially employed. If education was allowed to catch up first, it may be less of an issue. I could actually feel the country changing in my short visit!
Zimbabwe situation is disgusting, I just hope it doesnt hppen to SA as a whole...
MB
I recently went to Cape Town for 2 weeks. Not even a sniff of trouble. Half my familyare from SA / Zim and there are areas that are bad, but I feel Cape Town is as safe as anywhere ive been!
Im afraid the downfall of somewher like this is having such a rapid U turn in employment. You have a lot of uneducated black's (and that isnt racist) doing jobs that they are not qualified for, simply because they have to be equally, or preferencially employed. If education was allowed to catch up first, it may be less of an issue. I could actually feel the country changing in my short visit!
Zimbabwe situation is disgusting, I just hope it doesnt hppen to SA as a whole...
MB
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
They make a lovely feature when I rest them on your wifes chin........
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Originally Posted by CooperS
My bro and his fiancee are there at the mo on their honeymoon for a week (Cape Town) and then they're going to Mauritius for a week.
Know which one I'd prerfer!
Know which one I'd prerfer!
Having said that, I'm not going back to SA ever again. There are better destinations in the world to burn my money with.
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