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Old 28 October 2004, 09:51 PM
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As above, i need some advise on part time study

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Old 28 October 2004, 10:46 PM
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Er, how about a clue on what you want to know ?

Do you want to be an accountant ?
Are you studying & want help with a specific issue ?
Do you want to learn book keeping ?

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P.S. That's just cost you £120
Old 28 October 2004, 11:00 PM
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Default What do u want to know?

As our friend says, what exactly do u want to know.

Part time ACCA, CIMA etc??

ps. I work at a London firm so that cost £250!!
Old 29 October 2004, 09:21 AM
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If it's CIMA just cram a week before the exams.
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I did CIMA through home study, allowed a lot more flexibilty. Used BPP and they were very good. Having said that it was all a piece of pis$$ anyway as I had just done an accountancy degree, so just went over everything again

Now qualified and get extremely annoyed that they whack up the fees by way more than inflation (where's the cost control there? FFS they are accountants).

These professional bodies are very good preachers but when it comes to keeping there own books under cost control they are a joke!

one pi$$ed of accountant who pays annual fees and sees f'all in return except the expectation of an even bigger increase for the next year.

Friday rant over
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Employer pays my subs

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Cheers for your reply's

I do a bit of financial management at the moment within work, but i really want to learn more, i was looking at doing some part time / evening courses

Basically i dont know were to start !?!?

I would like to change this into a career path in the future so doing these courses should / could give me the qualifications that i would need to start off ?!?!

If that makes sense ?!?! :s
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Old 29 October 2004, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by In the ring of fire
Cheers for your reply's

I do a bit of financial management at the moment within work, but i really want to learn more, i was looking at doing some part time / evening courses

Basically i dont know were to start !?!?

I would like to change this into a career path in the future so doing these courses should / could give me the qualifications that i would need to start off ?!?!

If that makes sense ?!?! :s
your career planning leaves a lot to be desired I think.
Ask yourself some questions.....

Where do you see yourself and where do you want to go in 1, 2 5, 10 years time.?
Draw up a plan.
then ask "what do I need to get there? (what are steps)".
What are the enablers to help you get there?
Why do you want to learn more? Is a course really necessary? What aims/objectives will it meet, what skills will it give you to help achieve the plan? What if you need experience instead of training to get you there? What if the skills you think you need are not the skills that employers want?

Theese are just a few questions off the top of my head.

You should get some career advice from a professional (not me by the way).

I would suggest not just jumping in with a course, it won't be counterproductive, but you might be better spending your time focussing on other things (maybe networking with the other asslickers in your organisation, or helping plant trees to increase your company's Corporate social responsibility image is more important than going on a course, and will get you to the next step on the plan - That's what's been suggested to me!).

Just my 2p's worth.

C
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If you want to be an accountant it's best to do the exams. I used to work for an accountancy firm but I didn't do the exams. It gets you nowhere even if you can do the same job.

You can earn quite good money once you're qualified if that's your goal. But remember, qualifying is the key.

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Old 29 October 2004, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunk
Employer pays my subs

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Employer pays my subs too, but that's no reason to find their increases year on year acceptable?
Old 29 October 2004, 04:17 PM
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How do i go about "doing the exams" ??

What would i need to do ??

Sorry if its a bit vague, its something i have wanted to do for a few years but was too tied up in my own job to try & start something, now i have a bit of spare to try and get this underway

Thanks Again

S
Old 29 October 2004, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by In the ring of fire
How do i go about "doing the exams" ??

What would i need to do ??

Sorry if its a bit vague, its something i have wanted to do for a few years but was too tied up in my own job to try & start something, now i have a bit of spare to try and get this underway

Thanks Again

S
OK, it might be different now, but this is how I think it worked when I worked for an accountancy firm.... You need to be employed by a firm as a trainee to do the chartered exams - this is known as a training contract and I think these last for three years. You're given time off to attend courses etc, and to sit the exams. They'll also pay your course fees. You have to gain audit and accounts prep experience and submit the evidence of this to the exam board. You have to pass the first exams first time or you get kicked out. If you do this you then go on and try to pass the different exams. If you fail any of these I think you can often be liable yourself for time off and exam fees/course fees for re-sits. Also, you can run out of time with the Chartered exams.

ACCA is similar I believe but I don't think there are the same restrictions with time. Also, I believe you can do this full time whilst not working and get the exams done quicker. I'm not sure you're fully qualified though until you have some experience. I'm certainly not 100% on what I am talking about now though.

Good luck!
Old 29 October 2004, 04:59 PM
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Purely in terms of exam based options:

AAT (Accounting Technician) - minimal entry requirements and useful if you do not meet the requirements for....

ACCA/CIMA (Accountant) - both tend towards industry based jobs rather than practice (audit etc.) which the ICAEW dominate. Entry requirements are higher than AAT but then you are a fully qualified accountant at the end. You can study full-time, part-time or evenings whilst still earning a living (which is what a lot of people do). Takes around 3 years to qualify depending on exemptions and how many papers you can handle in one go (there are limits on how many you can sit at a time anyway). You will also require relevant, documentated experience to become a member.

If you do a Google it will find each body's website.
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