More doping, and Radcliffe on the defence...
#1
More doping, and Radcliffe on the defence...
Very quick on the denial of any doping claims before anyone pointed a finger at her:
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/34190297
Well, except me a few years ago: https://www.scoobynet.com/non-scooby...a#post10762459
Tip of iceberg IMO.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/34190297
Well, except me a few years ago: https://www.scoobynet.com/non-scooby...a#post10762459
Tip of iceberg IMO.
Last edited by ALi-B; 09 September 2015 at 08:11 AM.
#2
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good job we live in a Guilty until proven innocent society or they would get away with it,,,,,,, hang on
Suspicion isn't guilt, they even say 'The evidence is not proof of doping'
Suspicion isn't guilt, they even say 'The evidence is not proof of doping'
#3
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I really hope she's not taking drugs. Same with Bolt/Farah/Jess Ennis as I believe they're genuinely clean
On the other hand, the sport is really going to take a beating here the more they dig.
However, do they really have a chance at catching anyone, given Lance Armstrongs history of avoidance.
On the other hand, the sport is really going to take a beating here the more they dig.
However, do they really have a chance at catching anyone, given Lance Armstrongs history of avoidance.
Last edited by urban; 09 September 2015 at 08:25 AM.
#4
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one sincerely hopes that world athletics does not act in the same way - and I don't think so tbh
#5
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I think it's really difficult to prove or dis-prove due to the amount of naturally occurring "performance enhancers" anyone remember the ginseng scandal with Linford Christy.
Then there's the fact that people that do cheat go to extra-ordinary levels to hide the fact, even some of the drugs being used to cheat being un-traceable after 24hrs, so does that mean everyone involved in sport has to give a urine sample every morning, I doubt that would be workable, also how do they test for new drugs that they don't even know exist.
As for Paula Radcliffe being on the defensive, no doubt some nice journalist called her and said "how do you feel about being implicated in doping in the commons today" and off we go, scandal started.
Then there's the fact that people that do cheat go to extra-ordinary levels to hide the fact, even some of the drugs being used to cheat being un-traceable after 24hrs, so does that mean everyone involved in sport has to give a urine sample every morning, I doubt that would be workable, also how do they test for new drugs that they don't even know exist.
As for Paula Radcliffe being on the defensive, no doubt some nice journalist called her and said "how do you feel about being implicated in doping in the commons today" and off we go, scandal started.
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I believe Paula Radcliffe is/has been totally clean. A staunch advocate of doping. It was cheap shot by an MP using parliament privileged to make comments about the era Paula was at her prime.
Where do you draw the line for performance enhancing food/drugs. At one end just eating quality protein, carbohydrates and vegetables could be deemed enhancing or synthetic drugs manufactured specifically for enhanced performance?
Where do you draw the line for performance enhancing food/drugs. At one end just eating quality protein, carbohydrates and vegetables could be deemed enhancing or synthetic drugs manufactured specifically for enhanced performance?
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#8
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I believe Paula Radcliffe is/has been totally clean. A staunch advocate of doping. It was cheap shot by an MP using parliament privileged to make comments about the era Paula was at her prime.
Where do you draw the line for performance enhancing food/drugs. At one end just eating quality protein, carbohydrates and vegetables could be deemed enhancing or synthetic drugs manufactured specifically for enhanced performance?
Where do you draw the line for performance enhancing food/drugs. At one end just eating quality protein, carbohydrates and vegetables could be deemed enhancing or synthetic drugs manufactured specifically for enhanced performance?
Lance armstrong is a classic example. In his era the highest finishing rank person in the tours he won to still not have been found to fail a test is 11th.
When its that endemic do you ban or accept it? Body building has two champs, one natural, one enhanced (steroids or what ever drugs)
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Hein Verbruggen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hein_Verbruggen
and
Pat McQuaid
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_McQuaid
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hein_Verbruggen
and
Pat McQuaid
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_McQuaid
#15
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Hein Verbruggen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hein_Verbruggen
and
Pat McQuaid
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_McQuaid
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hein_Verbruggen
and
Pat McQuaid
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_McQuaid
totlay missed what i was asking, are we talking about lance armstrong here, or just doping general?
#16
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I believe Paula Radcliffe is/has been totally clean. A staunch advocate of doping. It was cheap shot by an MP using parliament privileged to make comments about the era Paula was at her prime.
Where do you draw the line for performance enhancing food/drugs. At one end just eating quality protein, carbohydrates and vegetables could be deemed enhancing or synthetic drugs manufactured specifically for enhanced performance?
Where do you draw the line for performance enhancing food/drugs. At one end just eating quality protein, carbohydrates and vegetables could be deemed enhancing or synthetic drugs manufactured specifically for enhanced performance?
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#18
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Ah yeah, was a proper inside job. but they covered it all up at that time.
TO be fair i do think he's had a bum wrap comapred to how otehrs have been tretaed.
TO be fair i do think he's had a bum wrap comapred to how otehrs have been tretaed.
#21
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still firing accusations around though, look at chris frome and whats hes had to endure
#22
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creating a whole "nexus" of cheating/doping around him
rather than simple "yes I doped"
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