More doping, and Radcliffe on the defence...
Very quick on the denial of any doping claims before anyone pointed a finger at her:
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/34190297 Well, except me a few years ago: https://www.scoobynet.com/non-scooby...a#post10762459 Tip of iceberg IMO. |
good job we live in a Guilty until proven innocent society or they would get away with it,,,,,,, hang on
Suspicion isn't guilt, they even say 'The evidence is not proof of doping' |
I really hope she's not taking drugs. Same with Bolt/Farah/Jess Ennis as I believe they're genuinely clean
On the other hand, the sport is really going to take a beating here the more they dig. However, do they really have a chance at catching anyone, given Lance Armstrongs history of avoidance. |
Originally Posted by urban
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However, do they really have a chance at catching anyone, given Lance Armstrongs history of avoidance.
one sincerely hopes that world athletics does not act in the same way - and I don't think so tbh |
I think it's really difficult to prove or dis-prove due to the amount of naturally occurring "performance enhancers" anyone remember the ginseng scandal with Linford Christy.
Then there's the fact that people that do cheat go to extra-ordinary levels to hide the fact, even some of the drugs being used to cheat being un-traceable after 24hrs, so does that mean everyone involved in sport has to give a urine sample every morning, :wonder: I doubt that would be workable, also how do they test for new drugs that they don't even know exist.:wonder: As for Paula Radcliffe being on the defensive, no doubt some nice journalist called her and said "how do you feel about being implicated in doping in the commons today" and off we go, scandal started. ;) |
Very quick?
She was interviewed 2 weeks ago. Thought I was seeing double. , the BBC have habit doing this it seems |
I believe Paula Radcliffe is/has been totally clean. A staunch advocate of doping. It was cheap shot by an MP using parliament privileged to make comments about the era Paula was at her prime.
Where do you draw the line for performance enhancing food/drugs. At one end just eating quality protein, carbohydrates and vegetables could be deemed enhancing or synthetic drugs manufactured specifically for enhanced performance? |
Originally Posted by andy97
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I believe Paula Radcliffe is/has been totally clean. A staunch advocate of doping. It was cheap shot by an MP using parliament privileged to make comments about the era Paula was at her prime.
Where do you draw the line for performance enhancing food/drugs. At one end just eating quality protein, carbohydrates and vegetables could be deemed enhancing or synthetic drugs manufactured specifically for enhanced performance? Lance armstrong is a classic example. In his era the highest finishing rank person in the tours he won to still not have been found to fail a test is 11th. When its that endemic do you ban or accept it? Body building has two champs, one natural, one enhanced (steroids or what ever drugs) |
He did fail a test but the result was suppressed by UCI
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Originally Posted by andy97
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He did fail a test but the result was suppressed by UCI
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
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who?
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
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cycling's world governing body
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It all seemed to be an industry of covering up, in an attempt save face and le tour reputation
Like fifa, but with far less cash floating around |
Originally Posted by Tidgy
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no no as in who did UCI cover up? lance armstrong?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hein_Verbruggen and Pat McQuaid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_McQuaid |
Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
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Hein Verbruggen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hein_Verbruggen and Pat McQuaid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_McQuaid totlay missed what i was asking, are we talking about lance armstrong here, or just doping general? |
Originally Posted by andy97
(Post 11734269)
I believe Paula Radcliffe is/has been totally clean. A staunch advocate of doping. It was cheap shot by an MP using parliament privileged to make comments about the era Paula was at her prime.
Where do you draw the line for performance enhancing food/drugs. At one end just eating quality protein, carbohydrates and vegetables could be deemed enhancing or synthetic drugs manufactured specifically for enhanced performance? |
Originally Posted by Tidgy
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totlay missed what i was asking, are we talking about lance armstrong here, or just doping general?
I hope the World Athletics Governing body are not as corrupt |
Ah yeah, was a proper inside job. but they covered it all up at that time.
TO be fair i do think he's had a bum wrap comapred to how otehrs have been tretaed. |
The Athletics people may not be actively covering-up, but the evidence does seem to be mounting that they're turning a blind eye to what should be pretty bleeding obvious.
Cycling is the new clean, who woulda thunk it. |
ermmm he was intent on securing his business intrests and at the same time screwing over others !
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Originally Posted by markjmd
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The Athletics people may not be actively covering-up, but the evidence does seem to be mounting that they're turning a blind eye to what should be pretty bleeding obvious.
Cycling is the new clean, who woulda thunk it. |
Originally Posted by Tidgy
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Ah yeah, was a proper inside job. but they covered it all up at that time.
TO be fair i do think he's had a bum wrap comapred to how otehrs have been tretaed. creating a whole "nexus" of cheating/doping around him rather than simple "yes I doped" |
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