Felix.

https://www.conservatives.com/~/medi.../Manifesto2010

Interesting to read how far off the mark they were with their original promises.

Quickly looking through at the police things, pretty much everything has been missed.....

It makes you wonder what is the point of releasing these manifestos every time

markjmd

iTrader: (11)

Probably easier to look at this in terms of the excuses they'd give for not sticking to their manifesto. I'll get the easy ones out of the way to kick things off:
1. We didn't realize how bad a mess Labour were going to leave behind.
2. We were forced to form a coalition with the Lib-Dems, so our hands were tied.

Martin2005

Point 2 being the key

The thing that they should be held to is what was in the Coalition Agreement, not their various manifestos

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

But, shouldn't we have a system whereby, if you issue a manifesto, and thereby gain power, you MUST then at least make an effort to implement EVERYTHING in there, or explain, in detail, to a court of law, why you didn't/couldn't?

Otherwise, it's getting stuff (power) by false pretenses.

Tidgy

when did any gov stick to their manifesto?

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

Exactly...........but they gain power through their promises....so, obtaining goods by deception?

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

SN better order another disk for the server if you want me to start listing their failures

Martin2005

A better question would be...

Do you think that a party that got 36% of the vote and didn't get a majority has any right to implement its manifesto?

dpb

Does anyone really believe theyve failed through not reducing the deficit , even when weve been struggling to emerge from recession ??
( not F1 - hes clearly too disturbed to make rational analysis )

jonc

I believe this country would be in an even worse state than pre-election had Ed Miliband/Ed ***** been at the helm.

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

It is FFS!!!! The debt is much greater than it was then!

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

Whereas you are a snidy little no mark with a serious chip on his shoulder!

Martin2005

I'm sure that you realise that was always going to be the case regardless of whether they achieved a balanced budget by this year or not.

That was pretty clear to anyone who could add up.

jonc

No one said debt reduction, it wasn't in anyone's manifesto. Just so you're clear, the question was deficit reduction.

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

FFS! Here is what you said:

You did not make any mention of the deficit or manifestos or anything else! You simply said in a worse state!

Overall the country is in a worse state. You and your beloved politicians can paper over the cracks and talk about deficit reduction, jobs created blah blah blah, but the fact remains the country is far far deeper in debt than it was pre-election and there is little to no chance of ever staving off eventual economic meltdown. It is just a case of when not if!

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

Yes of course, but likewise we were always going to have been in a worse state than pre-election regardless of who was elected!

I am just a bit sick of having the Tories painted as economic saviours when we're even more f**ked than we were 5 years ago!

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

In fact on page 7 of their 2010 manifesto these clowns have a section headed 'Urgent action to reduce debt' which then talks about reducing the deficit. Maybe they don't understand the difference, that could explain a lot

jonc

My reply was to Dpb's question on deficit reduction, so in terms of deficit, yes I feel this country would be worse off under Labour, ie we would have a greater deficit than pre-election. HTH

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

OK, fair enough, apologies as I didn't see your post in that context at the time.

dpb

This could be the whole point I think, blinkered mentality

dpb

So what labour were advocating, and their only policy ( EVER) , was to spend even more to extricate us from the mess they left

You couldn't make it up