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What did the Tories get wrong......
https://www.conservatives.com/~/medi.../Manifesto2010
Interesting to read how far off the mark they were with their original promises. Quickly looking through at the police things, pretty much everything has been missed..... It makes you wonder what is the point of releasing these manifestos every time |
Probably easier to look at this in terms of the excuses they'd give for not sticking to their manifesto. I'll get the easy ones out of the way to kick things off:
1. We didn't realize how bad a mess Labour were going to leave behind. 2. We were forced to form a coalition with the Lib-Dems, so our hands were tied. |
Originally Posted by markjmd
(Post 11664290)
Probably easier to look at this in terms of the excuses they'd give for not sticking to their manifesto. I'll get the easy ones out of the way to kick things off:
1. We didn't realize how bad a mess Labour were going to leave behind. 2. We were forced to form a coalition with the Lib-Dems, so our hands were tied. The thing that they should be held to is what was in the Coalition Agreement, not their various manifestos |
But, shouldn't we have a system whereby, if you issue a manifesto, and thereby gain power, you MUST then at least make an effort to implement EVERYTHING in there, or explain, in detail, to a court of law, why you didn't/couldn't?
Otherwise, it's getting stuff (power) by false pretenses. |
when did any gov stick to their manifesto?
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Exactly...........but they gain power through their promises....so, obtaining goods by deception?
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Originally Posted by Felix.
(Post 11664283)
https://www.conservatives.com/~/medi.../Manifesto2010
Interesting to read how far off the mark they were with their original promises. Quickly looking through at the police things, pretty much everything has been missed..... It makes you wonder what is the point or releasing these manifestos every time |
Originally Posted by alcazar
(Post 11664356)
But, shouldn't we have a system whereby, if you issue a manifesto, and thereby gain power, you MUST then at least make an effort to implement EVERYTHING in there, or explain, in detail, to a court of law, why you didn't/couldn't?
Otherwise, it's getting stuff (power) by false pretenses. Do you think that a party that got 36% of the vote and didn't get a majority has any right to implement its manifesto? |
Does anyone really believe theyve failed through not reducing the deficit , even when weve been struggling to emerge from recession ??
( not F1 - hes clearly too disturbed to make rational analysis ) |
I believe this country would be in an even worse state than pre-election had Ed Miliband/Ed Balls been at the helm.
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Originally Posted by jonc
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I believe this country would be in an even worse state than pre-election had Ed Miliband/Ed Balls been at the helm.
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Originally Posted by dpb
(Post 11664571)
( not F1 - hes clearly too disturbed to make rational analysis )
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
(Post 11664630)
It is FFS!!!! The debt is much greater than it was then!
That was pretty clear to anyone who could add up. |
Originally Posted by f1_fan
(Post 11664630)
It is FFS!!!! The debt is much greater than it was then!
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Originally Posted by jonc
(Post 11664658)
No one said debt reduction, it wasn't in anyone's manifesto. Just so you're clear, the question was deficit reduction. :facepalm:
Originally Posted by jonc
(Post 11664581)
I believe this country would be in an even worse state than pre-election had Ed Miliband/Ed Balls been at the helm.
Overall the country is in a worse state. You and your beloved politicians can paper over the cracks and talk about deficit reduction, jobs created blah blah blah, but the fact remains the country is far far deeper in debt than it was pre-election and there is little to no chance of ever staving off eventual economic meltdown. It is just a case of when not if! |
Originally Posted by Martin2005
(Post 11664656)
I'm sure that you realise that was always going to be the case regardless of whether they achieved a balanced budget by this year or not.
That was pretty clear to anyone who could add up. I am just a bit sick of having the Tories painted as economic saviours when we're even more f**ked than we were 5 years ago! |
In fact on page 7 of their 2010 manifesto these clowns have a section headed 'Urgent action to reduce debt' which then talks about reducing the deficit. Maybe they don't understand the difference, that could explain a lot :lol1:
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
(Post 11664662)
FFS! Here is what you said:
You did not make any mention of the deficit or manifestos or anything else! You simply said in a worse state! Overall the country is in a worse state. You and your beloved politicians can paper over the cracks and talk about deficit reduction, jobs created blah blah blah, but the fact remains the country is far far deeper in debt than it was pre-election and there is little to no chance of ever staving off eventual economic meltdown. It is just a case of when not if! |
Originally Posted by jonc
(Post 11664673)
My reply was to Dpb's question on deficit reduction, so in terms of deficit, yes I feel this country would be worse off under Labour, ie we would have a greater deficit than pre-election. HTH
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This could be the whole point I think, blinkered mentality
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So what labour were advocating, and their only policy ( EVER) , was to spend even more to extricate us from the mess they left
You couldn't make it up |
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