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Old Jul 2, 2004 | 01:34 PM
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I really want flames, but as I understand it, there are 2 options. De cat the exhaust and get an atmoshperic dump valve, or the cheaper and one that causes alot of debates............get a flamer kit.

I eventually want to go along the de cat exhaust route, but is the non standard dump valve essential. Aparently on my UK300 model the dump valve is bolted to the intercooler???? and is therefore quite an expensive piece of kit for a dump valve.
Want to obviously weigh up the difference in price etc.

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Old Jul 2, 2004 | 01:41 PM
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Decating the exhaust wont get you big flames, just the odd little one wich you wont notice unless its dark you also get lots of pops. Flamer kits only really work if you have a decat exhaust system for better flames.
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Old Jul 2, 2004 | 02:42 PM
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I might be being thick, but my mate had a cossie with anti lag and that caused some mahusive flames, could you not try that?
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Old Jul 2, 2004 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by sleeka
I might be being thick, but my mate had a cossie with anti lag and that caused some mahusive flames, could you not try that?
Anti-lag is a little bit more expensive than a flame kit. You need a good supply of new turbos as well as they don't last very long with ALS
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Old Jul 2, 2004 | 03:49 PM
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anti lag is £1500 get it free with gems or motec ecu
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Old Jul 2, 2004 | 05:29 PM
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Don't want to go down the anti lag route, but does everyone who has a flamer kit have a de cat exhaust? I'd be interested in someone replying who has a flamer kit and no de cat.
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Old Jul 2, 2004 | 06:50 PM
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mine flamed with a full decat and vta d/v, but it was really having to be forced to do it. the flamer kit apparantly doesnt work without a full decat, so either way i think to get flames you need to go down the decat route mate

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Old Jul 2, 2004 | 06:55 PM
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Everyone i know have had there cars de-cated when having the flamer kit, when me brother had his done the bloke said it would be better if you decat the car. Someone also told me that it could damage the cat but not to sure as the sparkplug is drilled into the backbox.
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Old Jul 3, 2004 | 10:59 AM
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I've got a full decat and HKS bov, dont think I've had any flames, plenty of pops and bags though.
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Old Jul 3, 2004 | 11:55 PM
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I am running a Full Decat and having fitted a H&S Afterburner non resonated centre pipe I get pops and bansg and thats without a VTA and or an Induction Kit
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 11:47 AM
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Looks like full de cat Blitz exhaust is next on the shopping list then.

Thanks for the advice.
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Old Jul 7, 2004 | 09:50 AM
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A new Dump Valve needn't cost a lot....i went for Bailey MotorSport DV12. Took 20 minutes to unbolt the old one from the intercooler, unclip from the now defunct pipe(bung provided in kit)and bolt the new one on...sounds top and only cost £100...anyone want a stock MY03 WRX recirc d/v barely used???
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Old Jul 7, 2004 | 01:31 PM
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WRXPETE, don't suppose you have any pics do you please?
I was told the ones that bolt onto the intercooler were the Blitz type ones which are approx £250+.

I'd be really interested in the baileys type if that's not the case.

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Old Jul 7, 2004 | 04:41 PM
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Ive got a Forge one that bolts straight on I could sell you it if your interested ?
(fit's all new age)

Takes less than 5 mins to fit!
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Old Jul 7, 2004 | 06:54 PM
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I have a decat ,induction kit and a flamer kit and there huge flames which light the rds behind you Best thing is lots of people dont like flamer kits but want big flames
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Old Jul 7, 2004 | 07:33 PM
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i ve got a full de cat and a hayward and scott exaust loads of bags nearly evertime i change gear. i want big flames aswell how nuch would a flamer kit cost me and where from

cheers raywrx
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Old Jul 7, 2004 | 07:43 PM
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Running decat, vta, and flamer kit.
It actually even flamed with the downpipe cat still in.
now massive flames

flamer kit costs about 100 quid if you buy, 25 if you make
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Old Jul 7, 2004 | 07:46 PM
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how do u go about makin it then

cheers raywrx
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Old Jul 7, 2004 | 08:10 PM
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ignition coil
ignition relay
wires
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spark plug
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 01:26 PM
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Gutter-Rat,
Could you send me a mail please with details? Price, age etc

Thanks
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 01:35 PM
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please bare with me on this question, may be a bit stupid.......

My my99 is completely standard apart from a different back box, scoobysport bb.

What would be needed if say, I wanted to get the odd pop and bang from the exhaust pipe when changing gears?

My friends skyline does this, he has dv and some other bits and pieces.

Also Im not 100% sure but when the exhaust is running this way is it running rich in petrol? is it a considerable difference?

I'm not interested in flames, just the odd gf iritating noise maker :P
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 04:11 PM
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also got the baileys dv on my 2001 CLASSIC , ,
which bolts straight on2 the intercooler
100 quid delivered and took me under half an hour to fit
20 minutes of that was reading the instructions lol

very straight forward and i dont like getting me hands dirty
also got full blitz nur spec r and magnex dp . . . .
get the odd flame now n then but nowt to write home about

a m8 has full de-cat,forge vta and flamer kit , he gets masseeeeeeeeeeve
flames . . . . eh drexel ;-)
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Old Jul 9, 2004 | 01:22 PM
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Where is the spark plug for a flamer kit mounted - do you weld a threaded boss onto the backbox?
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Old Jul 9, 2004 | 01:56 PM
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If any one is interested i have 4 brand new flamer kits for sale £ 70 including P/P
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Old Jul 9, 2004 | 10:09 PM
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can any one tell me how to wire up the list of things i need to make the flamer kit cause i have most of them bits already and would it work just as good as a shop product
cheers
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Old Jul 11, 2004 | 01:12 PM
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Gutter Rat,
Thanks again for fitting the DV. It was really appreciated. After seeing your superb example of a Scoob, it has definately convinced me to change the exhaust.

Steven
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Old Jul 11, 2004 | 01:14 PM
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Gary,
I'm definately interested in one of your flamer kits. Could you please send me a mail of details, and how easy they are to fit, or where I could get it fitted.

Cheers
Steven
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Old Jul 11, 2004 | 02:22 PM
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Flamer kit, decat, and anti lag here. Nice big flames soon
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Old Jul 11, 2004 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by stevenuk300 still
Gary,
I'm definately interested in one of your flamer kits. Could you please send me a mail of details, and how easy they are to fit, or where I could get it fitted.

Cheers
Steven
YHM
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Old Jul 11, 2004 | 09:08 PM
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I get the odd flame on gear change....especially if I change just after the turbo comes on boost (~3-3500rpm). I have a UK MY96, Revolution De-cat dp and 3" system and a Forge VTA dv.
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