Cameron's veto - good or bad?
14 December 2011, 05:32 PM
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Fully agree with you though that our politicians are fools (or sado-masochistic scum, take your pick) for enforcing every last EU law to the letter.
14 December 2011, 05:54 PM
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I can think of as many as you want that originated here:
Take motoring law for a start...
15 December 2011, 11:36 AM
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Yeah, I see where you are coming from Les, but where I'd have to disagree is that firstly, we DO make our own laws, nearly 3000 a year in the whole of the Labour reign.
Secondly, Euro laws: WE are the only country that enforces every one as far as it can. Why?
The others ignore stuff that doesn't suit them, so why can't we?
Why DOES our government insist on p*ssing off the UK population by enforcing stupid EC laws, then hold up their hands in horror, and shout, "Not us! Not us! WE didn't do it, it was that nasty EC..." every time anyone complains.
Anyone else see an ulterior motive here? Because I do
Secondly, Euro laws: WE are the only country that enforces every one as far as it can. Why?
The others ignore stuff that doesn't suit them, so why can't we?
Why DOES our government insist on p*ssing off the UK population by enforcing stupid EC laws, then hold up their hands in horror, and shout, "Not us! Not us! WE didn't do it, it was that nasty EC..." every time anyone complains.
Anyone else see an ulterior motive here? Because I do
I reckon I am seeing the same ulterior motive that you do. Last thing in such a case would they want to upset the Eu. They don't like it up 'em!
Les
15 December 2011, 11:47 AM
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Can you imagine Germany or France doing the same thing? Of course not. But because it suits the British Government to pay less, they can make the decision and not take any blame for it; "our hands are tied" they whine.
Remember that; being "forced by the EU" is another way of saying "yes, we like that legislations a lot, but we don't fancy taking the flak for it"
15 December 2011, 04:14 PM
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I don't. It is a very convenient veil for the Government of the day to hide behind. Take the Siemens /Bombardier row. The Government said they had to open it up and were bound by the EU.
Can you imagine Germany or France doing the same thing? Of course not. But because it suits the British Government to pay less, they can make the decision and not take any blame for it; "our hands are tied" they whine.
Remember that; being "forced by the EU" is another way of saying "yes, we like that legislations a lot, but we don't fancy taking the flak for it"
Can you imagine Germany or France doing the same thing? Of course not. But because it suits the British Government to pay less, they can make the decision and not take any blame for it; "our hands are tied" they whine.
Remember that; being "forced by the EU" is another way of saying "yes, we like that legislations a lot, but we don't fancy taking the flak for it"
Les
15 December 2011, 06:23 PM
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Looks like all is not going to plan in EU land after the "agreement" last week...Cracks Start To Appear In EU Finance Pact
15 December 2011, 06:47 PM
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15 December 2011, 06:48 PM
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Looks like all is not going to plan in EU land after the "agreement" last week...Cracks Start To Appear In EU Finance Pact
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17 December 2011, 03:31 PM
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28 February 2013, 06:00 AM
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A YEAR'S salary as a bonus???????
28 February 2013, 11:36 AM
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Wall Street, the Swiss and Hong Kong will be rubbing their hands in glee if this ruling is implemented. It's a nail in the coffin of London being a world leader in finance.
28 February 2013, 03:11 PM
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How far does anyone think we can actually trust the bankers anyway.
We only have to remember how they were recently fiddling the books in order to make "Loadsamoney" for themselves at our expense and eventually to cause a world recession.
It is difficult to avoid forming the impression that they are solely out for themselves at all costs and without any real sense of honesty or responsibility.
Does working with money tend to generate personal corruption I wonder!
I can still remember when one could trust a bank absolutely, seems to be fading away these days!
Les
We only have to remember how they were recently fiddling the books in order to make "Loadsamoney" for themselves at our expense and eventually to cause a world recession.
It is difficult to avoid forming the impression that they are solely out for themselves at all costs and without any real sense of honesty or responsibility.
Does working with money tend to generate personal corruption I wonder!
I can still remember when one could trust a bank absolutely, seems to be fading away these days!
Les
04 March 2013, 10:58 AM
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I've concluded my reasoning on this. We join our cousins across the Channel and we suffer what consequences there are to be suffered. It's the only honourable move.
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