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Old Dec 14, 2011 | 05:32 PM
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Yeah, I see where you are coming from Les, but where I'd have to disagree is that firstly, we DO make our own laws, nearly 3000 a year in the whole of the Labour reign.
Huge numbers of those were legislation for the sake of legislation though, or bordered on it, which rather proves the point that the scope for writing our own laws here has been squeezed out so far that there's only tinkering around the edges left.

Fully agree with you though that our politicians are fools (or sado-masochistic scum, take your pick) for enforcing every last EU law to the letter.
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Old Dec 14, 2011 | 05:54 PM
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Huge numbers of those were legislation for the sake of legislation though, or bordered on it, which rather proves the point that the scope for writing our own laws here has been squeezed out so far that there's only tinkering around the edges left.
Can't agree: can you come up with ONE law we wanted to make that the EU stopped?
I can think of as many as you want that originated here:
Take motoring law for a start...

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Fully agree with you though that our politicians are fools (or sado-masochistic scum, take your pick) for enforcing every last EU law to the letter.
There HAS to be a reason they do it. It's not just Lying Labour, iot's the Tories then and now.
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Yeah, I see where you are coming from Les, but where I'd have to disagree is that firstly, we DO make our own laws, nearly 3000 a year in the whole of the Labour reign.

Secondly, Euro laws: WE are the only country that enforces every one as far as it can. Why?

The others ignore stuff that doesn't suit them, so why can't we?

Why DOES our government insist on p*ssing off the UK population by enforcing stupid EC laws, then hold up their hands in horror, and shout, "Not us! Not us! WE didn't do it, it was that nasty EC..." every time anyone complains.

Anyone else see an ulterior motive here? Because I do
Oh yes, I agree 100% with what you say, especially about those Eu laws. I also find it difficult to understand why our lot slavishly follow all those poncey edicts that they come out with.

I reckon I am seeing the same ulterior motive that you do. Last thing in such a case would they want to upset the Eu. They don't like it up 'em!

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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 11:47 AM
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Oh I also find it difficult to understand why our lot slavishly follow all those poncey edicts that they come out with.
I don't. It is a very convenient veil for the Government of the day to hide behind. Take the Siemens /Bombardier row. The Government said they had to open it up and were bound by the EU.
Can you imagine Germany or France doing the same thing? Of course not. But because it suits the British Government to pay less, they can make the decision and not take any blame for it; "our hands are tied" they whine.

Remember that; being "forced by the EU" is another way of saying "yes, we like that legislations a lot, but we don't fancy taking the flak for it"
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
I don't. It is a very convenient veil for the Government of the day to hide behind. Take the Siemens /Bombardier row. The Government said they had to open it up and were bound by the EU.
Can you imagine Germany or France doing the same thing? Of course not. But because it suits the British Government to pay less, they can make the decision and not take any blame for it; "our hands are tied" they whine.

Remember that; being "forced by the EU" is another way of saying "yes, we like that legislations a lot, but we don't fancy taking the flak for it"
How did it make them look after doing that, and how could they honestly justify the job losses which stem from that decision?

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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 06:23 PM
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Looks like all is not going to plan in EU land after the "agreement" last week...Cracks Start To Appear In EU Finance Pact
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 06:47 PM
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French are sticking the boot in already...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16207748
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Old Dec 17, 2011 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by zip106
French are sticking the boot in already...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16207748
You mean they are trying and failing miserably since everyone knows the parlous state of their own finances.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21608938
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Old Feb 28, 2013 | 11:21 AM
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Bloody Hell!!! A YEAR'S salary as a bonus???????

They are just a bunch of merchant bankers, the whole lot of 'em.......
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Old Feb 28, 2013 | 11:36 AM
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Wall Street, the Swiss and Hong Kong will be rubbing their hands in glee if this ruling is implemented. It's a nail in the coffin of London being a world leader in finance.
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Old Feb 28, 2013 | 03:11 PM
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How far does anyone think we can actually trust the bankers anyway.

We only have to remember how they were recently fiddling the books in order to make "Loadsamoney" for themselves at our expense and eventually to cause a world recession.

It is difficult to avoid forming the impression that they are solely out for themselves at all costs and without any real sense of honesty or responsibility.

Does working with money tend to generate personal corruption I wonder!

I can still remember when one could trust a bank absolutely, seems to be fading away these days!

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I've concluded my reasoning on this. We join our cousins across the Channel and we suffer what consequences there are to be suffered. It's the only honourable move.
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