08/09 Hatches, Stand up and show yourselves!!!
Scooby Regular
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 177
Likes: 0
From: lee-on-the-solent
i would’ve thought you would easily make that , just out of interest what made you go sc46 over the sc42 ?
are you running the other type of front bar that I posted in the original post ?? Both types are comparable with hatch , but you have two choices either single flexible bar like show about , or the two items I posted higher up , I assume for the rear there is only one for both models
Happy with them, noticeable improvement at the front end without added harshness.
Am also thinking about the rear flexible support and the later steering rack, do you have any link about the steering rack conversion?
the pint im trying to make it that if I buy the front lower bar for the hatch as you pictured , says it is not compatible with the tension rods that’s what made me think of running the same set up as you , all parts are compatible with my car and I’m already running 22mm sways front and rear , and a powerflex black line anti lift and I’m going to get the white line support plates for the lower arms , I don’t see that a saloon model is any more ridged 🤷🏻*♂️ , or does the r205 run the tie braces with the single time front lower bar ?
"However as I point out in my thread they do supply a setting for the early cars, in fact they come as standard on the R205 hatch and S206 saloon.
So you can fit either but AFAIK not both."
Scooby Regular
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 7,826
Likes: 829
From: Harpenden
the point im trying to make it that if I buy the front lower bar for the hatch as you pictured , says it is not compatible with the tension rods that’s what made me think of running the same set up as you , all parts are compatible with my car and I’m already running 22mm sways front and rear , and a powerflex black line anti lift and I’m going to get the white line support plates for the lower arms , I don’t see that a saloon model is any more ridged 🤷🏻*♂️ , or does the r205 run the tie braces with the single time front lower bar ?
However as I point out in my thread they do supply a setting for the early cars, in fact they come as standard on the R205 hatch and S206 saloon.
So you can fit either but AFAIK not both.
So you can fit either but AFAIK not both.
Changes were made to the standard "off the production line" subaru hatch and saloon chassis' with the introduction of the pillowball front lower arms. The R205 being a special " 2010 end of run" STi "complete car" had it's own tweaks prior to rev C and My11 car introduction.
Translated from the STi R205 page ( https://www.sti.jp/completecar/herit...ail/2010/r205/ )
Complete car of STI with Road's "R" car name. Based on the Impreza WRX STI, it is a model that generously feeds back the technology cultivated at the Nürburgring 24 Hour Endurance Race. As its name suggests, he sticks to running on public roads and aiming for the best road going car. Engine output is dedicated ball bearings twin scroll turbo etc. to increase the maximum output to 320 ps and maximum torque 44.0 kg - m, fitted with Brembo made 18 inch disk & caliper for front and rear brakes. Added aerodynamic devices such as STI front under spoiler and rear under spoiler to the exterior. In order to further evolve STI's "supple and strong running", in addition to STI made damper + spring, flexible tower bar etc, adopting a newly developed flexible draw stiffener, excellent preeminent to respond smoothly like driver's limbs It realized maneuverability. Limited to 400
https://www.scoobynet.com/suspension...l#post11843160
its the earlier SC46 which used modified TD05 casings. though i did have to get the nose of the turbo cut and angled to clear the throttle body
As have said
For the earlier cars you have to run at a stronger tension level - which would suggest a difference in the chassis.
Changes were made to the standard "off the production line" subaru hatch and saloon chassis' with the introduction of the pillowball front lower arms. The R205 being a special " 2010 end of run" STi "complete car" had it's own tweaks prior to rev C and My11 car introduction.
Translated from the STi R205 page ( https://www.sti.jp/completecar/herit...ail/2010/r205/ )
WRT to change of strut bar, a post i made on a different thread..........
https://www.scoobynet.com/suspension...l#post11843160
For the earlier cars you have to run at a stronger tension level - which would suggest a difference in the chassis.
Changes were made to the standard "off the production line" subaru hatch and saloon chassis' with the introduction of the pillowball front lower arms. The R205 being a special " 2010 end of run" STi "complete car" had it's own tweaks prior to rev C and My11 car introduction.
Translated from the STi R205 page ( https://www.sti.jp/completecar/herit...ail/2010/r205/ )
WRT to change of strut bar, a post i made on a different thread..........
https://www.scoobynet.com/suspension...l#post11843160
Scooby Regular
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 177
Likes: 0
From: lee-on-the-solent
As have said
For the earlier cars you have to run at a stronger tension level - which would suggest a difference in the chassis.
Changes were made to the standard "off the production line" subaru hatch and saloon chassis' with the introduction of the pillowball front lower arms. The R205 being a special " 2010 end of run" STi "complete car" had it's own tweaks prior to rev C and My11 car introduction.
Translated from the STi R205 page ( https://www.sti.jp/completecar/herit...ail/2010/r205/ )
WRT to change of strut bar, a post i made on a different thread..........
https://www.scoobynet.com/suspension...l#post11843160
For the earlier cars you have to run at a stronger tension level - which would suggest a difference in the chassis.
Changes were made to the standard "off the production line" subaru hatch and saloon chassis' with the introduction of the pillowball front lower arms. The R205 being a special " 2010 end of run" STi "complete car" had it's own tweaks prior to rev C and My11 car introduction.
Translated from the STi R205 page ( https://www.sti.jp/completecar/herit...ail/2010/r205/ )
WRT to change of strut bar, a post i made on a different thread..........
https://www.scoobynet.com/suspension...l#post11843160
ive got it now , it’s all I thought originally haha , finding it difficult to understand which parts everyone was going on about ,,, don I was reading in your project thread that you bought the rear kit as an alternative to the rear subframe inserts , does this mean that subframe inserts would make the rear sti brace non effective as it’s clearly much cheaper to do the inserts if the only sacrifice is a lil bit more nvh
Scooby Regular
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 7,826
Likes: 829
From: Harpenden
ive got it now , it’s all I thought originally haha , finding it difficult to understand which parts everyone was going on about ,,, don I was reading in your project thread that you bought the rear kit as an alternative to the rear subframe inserts , does this mean that subframe inserts would make the rear sti brace non effective as it’s clearly much cheaper to do the inserts if the only sacrifice is a lil bit more nvh
"Adding the pillowball to the subframe support allows the chassis to flex more (in the right place).
STi's explanation.........
A pillow ball bush mounted to the central part of the support plate which connects the sub-frame and body ensures that the necessary amount of power is transmitted to the rear wheels without delay, and at the same time blocks any unnecessary force input. This design improves the responsiveness and grip of the rear wheels, and increases roll rigidity, resulting in a more stable control and comfortable ride.
Because of this I completed the set and bought the flexi strut tower brace and the pillowball rear lateral links.
This is a strut tower bar with a completely new concept - splitting an aluminum tower bar in the center and connecting the two pieces with pillow ball joints. As the left and right pieces are flexibly connected, the bar can moderately handle longitudinal forces such as from gaps on the road to maintain ride comfort while strongly holding against lateral forces during cornering. As a result, not only cornering performance but also straight-line stability and ride comfort is improved to enhance the comprehensive performance level of the car.
[quote] Set of 4 lateral links with pillow ball bushes. By changing the rubber bush inside a lateral link to a pillow ball bush, friction is reduced and caliper rigidity improved during a stroke, sharp handling is achieved during cornering, and linear suspension features from entering until exiting a turn are achieved. [quote]
Scooby Regular
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 177
Likes: 0
From: lee-on-the-solent
I've recently won this and I really can't wait for it to arrive in UK at the end of May.
I can't thank Don enough for sharing his knowledge and bearing with my questions!
I can't thank Don enough for sharing his knowledge and bearing with my questions!
Last edited by fpan; Jan 28, 2019 at 07:28 PM.
Scooby Regular
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 7,826
Likes: 829
From: Harpenden
Scooby Regular
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 1,768
Likes: 19
From: Banned
Thank you guys.
It's a 20th anniversary, 4.5B and has 80k km.
Standard WR blue, yes and bought from an auction.
I am like a kid in Christmas but the wait is killing me!
Here are a few more photos from the port.
It's a 20th anniversary, 4.5B and has 80k km.
Standard WR blue, yes and bought from an auction.
I am like a kid in Christmas but the wait is killing me!
Here are a few more photos from the port.
Last edited by fpan; Jan 28, 2019 at 07:28 PM.
Scooby Regular
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 3,179
Likes: 265
From: www.bbscoobys.com
don't really get the fuss over a JDM , meant to be due to the "stronger engine"
but here is a quote from AS performance ,,,,
2.0 JDM Blob (and newer) has the Hyperpeutic type pistons similar to the 2.5's and are known for the same ringland issues that can occur............
so to me they are just a prone to failing as the uk 2.5 but we just don't have as many over to here to see them fail so people think they are stronger lol
Scooby Regular
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 177
Likes: 0
From: lee-on-the-solent
don't really get the fuss over a JDM , meant to be due to the "stronger engine"
but here is a quote from AS performance ,,,,
2.0 JDM Blob (and newer) has the Hyperpeutic type pistons similar to the 2.5's and are known for the same ringland issues that can occur............
so to me they are just a prone to failing as the uk 2.5 but we just don't have as many over to here to see them fail so people think they are stronger lol
but here is a quote from AS performance ,,,,
2.0 JDM Blob (and newer) has the Hyperpeutic type pistons similar to the 2.5's and are known for the same ringland issues that can occur............
so to me they are just a prone to failing as the uk 2.5 but we just don't have as many over to here to see them fail so people think they are stronger lol
Alan Jeffery told me the same thing tbh. I am convinced it's down to the Kobe steel scandal. My thinking was really to get something that would hold its value a bit, and be sorted out of the box; nearly two years in, it would cost me way more to bring in another, and it seems that I could sell at the same price
Alan Jeffery told me the same thing tbh. I am convinced it's down to the Kobe steel scandal. My thinking was really to get something that would hold its value a bit, and be sorted out of the box; nearly two years in, it would cost me way more to bring in another, and it seems that I could sell at the same price
You can’t give the 2.5 away at the minute
Scooby Regular
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 7,826
Likes: 829
From: Harpenden
The engine in the S206 has some different parts to other Hatch/Saloon EJ207 engines
Only available from STi - no part numbers listed in database.
Only available from STi - no part numbers listed in database.
Last edited by Don Clark; Mar 25, 2018 at 01:05 PM.