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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 07:08 PM
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Ahhh, so that's where the handle comes from! I thought it was because you give your cars some real (mad) hammer.
We have to be a bit "mad" to support the Hammers these days,,,,,
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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 07:15 PM
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What do you mean 'these days' It's always been hard work has it not.
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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 08:16 PM
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Upton Park is a strange ground - very claustrophobic, as the stands are so close to the (small) pitch. Unique atmosphere.

Mind, this was back in the early 80s! LOL
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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 08:17 PM
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looking good.

Ren is like the all knowing book of subaru, he has saved my skin a few times
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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 08:27 PM
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Good progress there Clive - see you very soon mate
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Old Oct 31, 2010 | 05:01 PM
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Wasted trip to the pod today with the drag car as it rained So that's it for this season.

Mapping of the Type R is booked for the 10th with Duncan, the same day as Tim pulls the engine on the Drag car
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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 06:08 PM
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got a heat shield for the s206 now, its not fitted 100% how it should be as you can see how wide it is (must be for a truck fitment) but its better than nothing.


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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 06:25 PM
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That looks lovely, very clean and OEM style.
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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 06:50 PM
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Tidy bay for sure, wish I had the patience for that attention to detail. I am more bolt on go fast
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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 08:56 PM
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Tidy bay for sure, wish I had the patience for that attention to detail. I am more bolt on go fast
A bit like me then Clive!
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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 09:53 PM
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A bit like me then Clive!
lol all the tarts are out today
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 04:53 PM
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got a heat shield for the s206 now, its not fitted 100% how it should be as you can see how wide it is (must be for a truck fitment) but its better than nothing.

Looking spotless as usual Ian
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 05:43 PM
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thanks maryn, but there are some dirty bits in hard to get places that bug me now and then though lol
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lol all the tarts are out today




pmsl!!

Must remember to get my bloody i/c pipe this winter sorted as it did look a lil "not right" last sun at Pod!
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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 07:01 PM
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Spent a day on the cars today getting ready for Wednesday when Tim comes to remove the engine on the drag car and Duncan comes to map the Type R. Got most stuff out of the way for engine removing, sorted an exhaust leak on the Type R and swapped the wheels over for road tyres.






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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 09:51 PM
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Got my box of goodies today from Mark at Lateral for the refresh, spot on service as always Mark. Thanks.
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Good to see you again Clive
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Busy day , not long back from Zen. Started with Tim this morning taking the engine out of the drag car. No real issues apart from finding the HKS headers were well past their sell by date with many cracks (I suspected as much after seeing flames around that area last time on the dyno)







Then once Tim had taken the engine away Duncan soon followed to start work on the Type R. Got a base map sorted and then it was off to Zen for full mapping on the rollers. Once all wiring for air temp etc. was sorted first run at actuator pressure and no real timing gave us circa 350 bhp !

Then it was time for boost and timing and 1.9 bar gave us a nice 486/427

One last run with proper boost @ 2.1 bar yielded a superb result of 508/441 !!!

This was all on a 20% meth mix.

On the drive home it was near freezing so did not want to push it too much, obvious question is how does it spool on the road. I have no boost gauge at the moment now I have disconnected the AVC-r but good spool from 3k, 3.5k feels like something is about to happen, 4k hang on tight

Couple of thank you messages -

Martyn @ Enginetuner for the turbo
Duncan for mapping a finding a figure starting with a 5
Paul @ Zen as always for use of his rollers and helping hand today.

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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 10:09 PM
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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 10:22 PM
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Worked pretty well
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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 10:24 PM
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Worked pretty well
And some

You were right about it being a handful on the road and I didn't go beyond 5k ish !
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 12:26 AM
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How does it compare/feel to your old 321T? does it pull much harder is it much laggier?
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 07:23 AM
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Deffo pulls much harder. Spools much later tbh by 500-600rpm I would say
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 09:15 AM
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Nice result Clive and friends.

The cutback turbine wheel fitted to yours will be partly to blame for the difference in spool, it was after all designed for a 2.5 engine and as we all know it is perfectly normal for a larger turbo to spool later.
There are developments afoot to redress the balance and get even the cutback wheeled versions spooling faster and generating more power for the same boost

Thanks for being the guineau pig and testing it for me. It will be interesting to see the difference in the 1/4 mile times.

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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 10:46 AM
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Martyn,

We were genuinely supprised by the spool given the size of the turbo (dyno was 3rd gear), on the road it is impressive. The question I still need to answer is the lag between changes. The weather last night on the way back from Zen did not allow me to test so I will give it a blast at the weekend and report back.

Think this proves a standard postion turbo can compete with the smaller rotated set ups, iirc Banny's GT30 ran 522bhp with the same mix of meth on a 2.0 but on Dyno Dynamics rollers, we must remember Pauls are more conserative

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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 10:59 AM
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Martyn,

We were genuinely supprised by the spool given the size of the turbo (dyno was 3rd gear), on the road it is impressive. The question I still need to answer is the lag between changes. The weather last night on the way back from Zen did not allow me to test so I will give it a blast at the weekend and report back.
There isn't any, lol, just bang it up a gear and the boost is right there.

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Think this proves a standard postion turbo can compete with the smaller rotated set ups, iirc Banny's GT30 ran 522bhp with the same mix of meth on a 2.0 but on Dyno Dynamics rollers, we must remember Pauls are more conserative

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I am really pleased with the results Clive and can't wait for Shakey next year. You should find that you now own 2 10 second cars
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Clive,
Headers seem to last no time at all at that sort of power level?

Is your 2litre forged? Bannys isnt so it wasnt pushed to what it could have rub had it been forged

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Clive I am on a 15% mix as I filled up with too much fuel
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 11:25 AM
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Clive,
Headers seem to last no time at all at that sort of power level?

Is your 2litre forged? Bannys isnt so it wasnt pushed to what it could have rub had it been forged

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Simon,

I have done two sets of Gruppe S and now a HKS set in 2 years on the drag car !

Type R has rods and pistons and standard STI 4 heads, it was a bit tounge in cheek comparing to Bannys as I knew he reads this thread Still point about it doing over 500 on Pauls rollers counts, reckon maybe 530 on DD.

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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 11:26 AM
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Clive I am on a 15% mix as I filled up with too much fuel
Can you pop your graph up to compare spool mate, I know you have it on a hot key
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