Scooby worx SWRD fuel pump failure
11 July 2016, 07:39 PM
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I'd say the moral to this story is
" don't own a Subaru without taking a home recovery policy out "
I certainly wouldn't ..
It's the cars fault man , they always break ha ha
" don't own a Subaru without taking a home recovery policy out "
I certainly wouldn't ..
It's the cars fault man , they always break ha ha
11 July 2016, 07:52 PM
#67
That's just a quick link , they do have a website so they must be "proper" lol
I thought I was in good hands with this SWRD pump that's failed so I'm not going to be snobbish about "brands" as much I think as I bought from a "good" stock and stI'll have a failed pump
I thought I was in good hands with this SWRD pump that's failed so I'm not going to be snobbish about "brands" as much I think as I bought from a "good" stock and stI'll have a failed pump
11 July 2016, 08:36 PM
#71
Now im not a genius but if you have an issue with a cheaper end fuel pump and kick up a fuss about it failing surely you would spend the extra and make sure the next one is the best you can buy and not a cheap piece of crap
11 July 2016, 10:41 PM
#76
Tbh, in all fairness to darrell, he's right hes goes out of his way to help.
I sent him an email (he didn't even know if it was me) about a query on a part, he let me try one of his parts just out of courtesy to check part as i had a issue and needed to rule it out, he did this all for free to help me out as he was concerned on issue.
But in end there was nothing wrong with my part but he offered to help to diagnose an issue i had which he did out of his kindness and all off his back.
(And he didn't know who i was, only a email)
Now when darrell says he does try and help, i can confirm he actually does, he didn't have to remember.
Offering a discount for keeping the peace, you cant really expect a free one out of warranty by 15mths lol,
I sent him an email (he didn't even know if it was me) about a query on a part, he let me try one of his parts just out of courtesy to check part as i had a issue and needed to rule it out, he did this all for free to help me out as he was concerned on issue.
But in end there was nothing wrong with my part but he offered to help to diagnose an issue i had which he did out of his kindness and all off his back.
(And he didn't know who i was, only a email)
Now when darrell says he does try and help, i can confirm he actually does, he didn't have to remember.
Offering a discount for keeping the peace, you cant really expect a free one out of warranty by 15mths lol,
11 July 2016, 10:58 PM
#77
Never had an issue with Walbro/Sytec.
Just bought one these from ICP to try in the new car
http://www.importcarparts.co.uk/part...var=0&dc=&gen=
Just bought one these from ICP to try in the new car
http://www.importcarparts.co.uk/part...var=0&dc=&gen=
11 July 2016, 11:19 PM
#78
Never had an issue with Walbro/Sytec.
Just bought one these from ICP to try in the new car
http://www.importcarparts.co.uk/part...var=0&dc=&gen=
Just bought one these from ICP to try in the new car
http://www.importcarparts.co.uk/part...var=0&dc=&gen=
Either huge margins been made or maybe a decent quality pump.
Time will tell
12 July 2016, 09:51 AM
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If I were the OP I think I would take Darrell up on the offer of a discounted replacement, if it's not too late. It's more than he has to do and no doubt the new pump will carry an appropriate warranty.
I may be wrong, but I can't help but get the feeling the OP is more agreived by the fact the pump failed away from home than he is that it failed at all. Under normal circumstances no fuel pump is going to fail at home in the garage, is it? (Having said that I did have one burn out on start up prime as it wasn't Methanol compatible
Not one of Darrell's though)
12 July 2016, 10:20 AM
#81
There is many brokers in china peddling pumps form the same 2/3 factories. They just change end cap colours and branding but they are all the same.
These may not be a bad pump but only time will tell. And the issue i found is that what may be a good pump in one batch can be a bad pump in the next batch as these brokers tender their orders to factories and the cheapest tender quote gets the job. Which means 3 batches can come from 3 factories. They just dont offer consistency
12 July 2016, 10:29 AM
#82
The issue is i know where 99% of the pumps on the market originate from and the quality they are. Its market ive researched and know a fair bit about.
There is many brokers in china peddling pumps form the same 2/3 factories. They just change end cap colours and branding but they are all the same.
These may not be a bad pump but only time will tell. And the issue i found is that what may be a good pump in one batch can be a bad pump in the next batch as these brokers tender their orders to factories and the cheapest tender quote gets the job. Which means 3 batches can come from 3 factories. They just dont offer consistency
There is many brokers in china peddling pumps form the same 2/3 factories. They just change end cap colours and branding but they are all the same.
These may not be a bad pump but only time will tell. And the issue i found is that what may be a good pump in one batch can be a bad pump in the next batch as these brokers tender their orders to factories and the cheapest tender quote gets the job. Which means 3 batches can come from 3 factories. They just dont offer consistency
I trade directly with China and many factories, I could reel off around 20 factories producing these fuel pumps and around 30 brokers.
Now thats not to say all are bad, everything comes from China these days even your beloved Iphone, so the quality can be brilliant, but it can also be horrific. A lot of these fuel pump being sold are just rebranded into their own name, anodised black to look more aesthetically pleasing etc - all done in the same factories. Most resellers don't consistently test and retest products, and the Chinese are quite known for first creating a good product, then watering it down to save money once they have had big first orders.
How it works:
One factory acquires the original product, creates tooling and makes a copy.
Another Chinese factory then acquires the product and the tooling spec, and copies it, therefore watering it down again.
This cycle continues till you have a barebones fuel pump and components and the tiny factories producing them as cheaply as possible.
There is no way to tell what pump is what.
Last edited by Trinity; 12 July 2016 at 10:30 AM.
12 July 2016, 11:01 AM
#85
Theres actually a lot more than 2/3 factories in China producing these fuel pumps, a LOT more.
I trade directly with China and many factories, I could reel off around 20 factories producing these fuel pumps and around 30 brokers.
Now thats not to say all are bad, everything comes from China these days even your beloved Iphone, so the quality can be brilliant, but it can also be horrific. A lot of these fuel pump being sold are just rebranded into their own name, anodised black to look more aesthetically pleasing etc - all done in the same factories. Most resellers don't consistently test and retest products, and the Chinese are quite known for first creating a good product, then watering it down to save money once they have had big first orders.
How it works:
One factory acquires the original product, creates tooling and makes a copy.
Another Chinese factory then acquires the product and the tooling spec, and copies it, therefore watering it down again.
This cycle continues till you have a barebones fuel pump and components and the tiny factories producing them as cheaply as possible.
There is no way to tell what pump is what.
I trade directly with China and many factories, I could reel off around 20 factories producing these fuel pumps and around 30 brokers.
Now thats not to say all are bad, everything comes from China these days even your beloved Iphone, so the quality can be brilliant, but it can also be horrific. A lot of these fuel pump being sold are just rebranded into their own name, anodised black to look more aesthetically pleasing etc - all done in the same factories. Most resellers don't consistently test and retest products, and the Chinese are quite known for first creating a good product, then watering it down to save money once they have had big first orders.
How it works:
One factory acquires the original product, creates tooling and makes a copy.
Another Chinese factory then acquires the product and the tooling spec, and copies it, therefore watering it down again.
This cycle continues till you have a barebones fuel pump and components and the tiny factories producing them as cheaply as possible.
There is no way to tell what pump is what.
12 July 2016, 07:08 PM
#87
To be fair to the OP I also had one of these pumps but didn't have it setup and running for 9 months whilst my car was painted. It wasn't reliable, I forgot to send mine back at the time due to moving but have since bought a HRC. Also I thought only the ones without SWRD on them were affected? Seems they were all crap.
12 July 2016, 07:52 PM
#89
To be fair to the OP I also had one of these pumps but didn't have it setup and running for 9 months whilst my car was painted. It wasn't reliable, I forgot to send mine back at the time due to moving but have since bought a HRC. Also I thought only the ones without SWRD on them were affected? Seems they were all crap.
They weren't all crap at all. Just a small number of ones sold from a bad batch. The whole world and his dog are aware of this as we didn't hide anything but we still seem to have people slating us and our products due to a small amount from a bad batch which were replaced or refunded. I'm not sure what else we could have done. We announced the issue on here in a thread so make sure they were all sorted.
Hopefully you haven't got a recent HRC as they are not the best. Older ones are good though.
Last edited by Darrell@Scoobyworx; 12 July 2016 at 07:58 PM.
12 July 2016, 07:56 PM
#90
No they arnt made in the UK.
They are made abroad and shipped to the UK for the extensive testing and serial numbers to be added. We have full UK support from our supplier who has full control over manufacturing and design of our pumps. The manufacturer is visited regular by my supplier also.
I can add that non of the top pumps available are made in the UK either but some are like ours and go through extensive testing before been put into stock if they buy them in from the same place as we do. Hence any suspected faulty pumps can be tested quickly and either replaced if required or returned if they arnt faulty. The testing is done in the UK.
Stock is also held in huge numbers in the UK
They are made abroad and shipped to the UK for the extensive testing and serial numbers to be added. We have full UK support from our supplier who has full control over manufacturing and design of our pumps. The manufacturer is visited regular by my supplier also.
I can add that non of the top pumps available are made in the UK either but some are like ours and go through extensive testing before been put into stock if they buy them in from the same place as we do. Hence any suspected faulty pumps can be tested quickly and either replaced if required or returned if they arnt faulty. The testing is done in the UK.
Stock is also held in huge numbers in the UK
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