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12 April 2015, 04:40 PM
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I don't know, im one of the 99.9%. but by how you put the responce so are you, so are you really in a place to vote for what you don't understand?
12 April 2015, 05:03 PM
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Im a fine position to vote, and ukip will 100% be getting my vote.
All you got to do is reason the first post to see why.
I may not know the ins and outs of every single detail about every single party off the top of my head, but ive read and watched enough to know i much prefer ukip's policies, and that the amount we pay for the EU is ridiculous and for what? Nothing that benefits me anyway. And trust me ive read plently of fors and againsts about the matter.
To be totally honest, its the rest of ukips policies that sway me more than the immigration issues. They seem so much more down to earth than the other parties, who seem to live on another planet, especially that idiot Milliband and the moron that is Clegg. Those two just dont seem to have a clue about the real world, not in the slightest.
At least Farage has actually had a real job, and has actually lived on this planet!!
Okay so UKIP have a few crazy MP's that say stupid things i agree, but so do the other parties. Its just media dont play on them anywhere as near as much.
All you got to do is reason the first post to see why.
I may not know the ins and outs of every single detail about every single party off the top of my head, but ive read and watched enough to know i much prefer ukip's policies, and that the amount we pay for the EU is ridiculous and for what? Nothing that benefits me anyway. And trust me ive read plently of fors and againsts about the matter.
To be totally honest, its the rest of ukips policies that sway me more than the immigration issues. They seem so much more down to earth than the other parties, who seem to live on another planet, especially that idiot Milliband and the moron that is Clegg. Those two just dont seem to have a clue about the real world, not in the slightest.
At least Farage has actually had a real job, and has actually lived on this planet!!
Okay so UKIP have a few crazy MP's that say stupid things i agree, but so do the other parties. Its just media dont play on them anywhere as near as much.
12 April 2015, 05:10 PM
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Im a fine position to vote, and ukip will 100% be getting my vote.
All you got to do is reason the first post to see why.
I may not know the ins and outs of every single detail about every single party off the top of my head, but ive read and watched enough to know i much prefer ukip's policies, and that the amount we pay for the EU is ridiculous and for what? Nothing that benefits me anyway. And trust me ive read plently of fors and againsts about the matter.
To be totally honest, its the rest of ukips policies that sway me more than the immigration issues. They seem so much more down to earth than the other parties, who seem to live on another planet, especially that idiot Milliband and the moron that is Clegg. Those two just dont seem to have a clue about the real world, not in the slightest.
At least Farage has actually had a real job, and has actually lived on this planet!!
Okay so UKIP have a few crazy MP's that say stupid things i agree, but so do the other parties. Its just media dont play on them anywhere as near as much.
All you got to do is reason the first post to see why.
I may not know the ins and outs of every single detail about every single party off the top of my head, but ive read and watched enough to know i much prefer ukip's policies, and that the amount we pay for the EU is ridiculous and for what? Nothing that benefits me anyway. And trust me ive read plently of fors and againsts about the matter.
To be totally honest, its the rest of ukips policies that sway me more than the immigration issues. They seem so much more down to earth than the other parties, who seem to live on another planet, especially that idiot Milliband and the moron that is Clegg. Those two just dont seem to have a clue about the real world, not in the slightest.
At least Farage has actually had a real job, and has actually lived on this planet!!
Okay so UKIP have a few crazy MP's that say stupid things i agree, but so do the other parties. Its just media dont play on them anywhere as near as much.
12 April 2015, 06:44 PM
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UKIP: the media has spent the last ten years telling everyone they are racist, is it any surprise when a few racists have joined?
Yet they ARE the only party that suspends IMMEDIATELY any wrong-doing is suspected.
And what's all this whining about bullying of Miliband? The other parties have been smearing UKIP for the last five years.
Yet they ARE the only party that suspends IMMEDIATELY any wrong-doing is suspected.
And what's all this whining about bullying of Miliband? The other parties have been smearing UKIP for the last five years.
12 April 2015, 06:53 PM
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12 April 2015, 09:51 PM
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Because over the last 5 years UKIP have come from basically nowhere to being right up there with a real possibility of being a contender. 5 years ago they all probably wernt worried about them but now they are all sh*tting a brick about UKIP. Rightly so too, bound to happen sooner or later !
12 April 2015, 10:03 PM
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Try some properly cooked Argentinian beef if you ever get the chance. Puts British and Scottish beef to shame. 
Promotion is all well and good if the product is good enough. And it needs to be further than the just the home market. British Leyland fell in to that trap, and look where that ended up.
Quite a populist manifesto there. Not much wrong with it, but details probably would complicate it though - i.e ECHR...replacing it with a UK one...it'll only be any good if the UK version is better implemented.
Promotion is all well and good if the product is good enough. And it needs to be further than the just the home market. British Leyland fell in to that trap, and look where that ended up.
Quite a populist manifesto there. Not much wrong with it, but details probably would complicate it though - i.e ECHR...replacing it with a UK one...it'll only be any good if the UK version is better implemented.
I won't be eating anything from British Leyland.
We managed perfectly well without the ECHR..
12 April 2015, 10:07 PM
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Because over the last 5 years UKIP have come from basically nowhere to being right up there with a real possibility of being a contender. 5 years ago they all probably wernt worried about them but now they are all sh*tting a brick about UKIP. Rightly so too, bound to happen sooner or later !
12 April 2015, 11:29 PM
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I can clearly see cows from my bedroom window, and those are the ones I want to see killed cooked and eaten locally with no chance of being accidentally mixed up with Horse, or in Argentina's case, Llama.
I won't be eating anything from British Leyland.
We managed perfectly well without the ECHR..
I won't be eating anything from British Leyland.
We managed perfectly well without the ECHR..
ECHR? You might need a history lesson then!
12 April 2015, 11:34 PM
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I think this is by far and away the biggest factor, I've seen it myself door canvassing and telling at polling stations, people support UKIP but aren't saying publically.
Read below the line at various newspapers and you see comments like "I can't believe UKIP is so low in the polls, everyone I speak to is voting UKIP", there is much more going on than the media is letting on to
Read below the line at various newspapers and you see comments like "I can't believe UKIP is so low in the polls, everyone I speak to is voting UKIP", there is much more going on than the media is letting on to
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13 April 2015, 08:16 AM
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13 April 2015, 08:28 AM
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13 April 2015, 03:44 PM
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13 April 2015, 04:27 PM
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You might need to explain why we need a UK bill of rights instead of ECHR? The other 30 odd other countries seem to cope just fine. What makes us a special case?
13 April 2015, 04:47 PM
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How will our exports hold up if we were to leave the EU? Genuine question as this seems to be something not mentioned by those that want us to leave. I understand certain reasons to leave, IE financial ties and being governed as a whole rather than as a seperate country.
In a local online debate recently the opposing argument to UKIP's lets leave the EU policy was how many business' would up and leave the UK. And as I live next to an airport I can only see these business' being lost locally.
How do UKIP intend to keep free trade and work with Brussells in setting up specific regulations for the UK like Norway and Switzerland?.
In a local online debate recently the opposing argument to UKIP's lets leave the EU policy was how many business' would up and leave the UK. And as I live next to an airport I can only see these business' being lost locally.
How do UKIP intend to keep free trade and work with Brussells in setting up specific regulations for the UK like Norway and Switzerland?.
13 April 2015, 04:55 PM
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13 April 2015, 05:38 PM
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So we have control of our own rights would be a good starting point...Rather than having people who have no interest or idea making a decision on our behalf....And just because the other 30 countries bend over and take it does`nt make it right, You can choose to be special or follow the herd
These are not the rights of countries, they are yours and mine. That's the whole point. You seriously want a national government tearing those up for us, and replacing them with what they see fit?
The problem isn't the ECHR it's the way OUR courts have interpreted a FEW cases. A British bill of rights would have EXACTLY the same problems.
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13 April 2015, 06:06 PM
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LOL - is this supposed to be a serious response? Or is it a Daily Mail editorial?
These are not the rights of countries, they are yours and mine. That's the whole point. You seriously want a national government tearing those up for us, and replacing them with what they see fit?
The problem isn't the ECHR it's the way OUR courts have interpreted a FEW cases. A British bill of rights would have EXACTLY the same problems.
These are not the rights of countries, they are yours and mine. That's the whole point. You seriously want a national government tearing those up for us, and replacing them with what they see fit?
The problem isn't the ECHR it's the way OUR courts have interpreted a FEW cases. A British bill of rights would have EXACTLY the same problems.
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13 April 2015, 06:16 PM
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Yes that`s right...The rights of the British people...So i take it by your blunt response it is JUST OUR and ONLY OUR courts that make these decisions and apply them then...The ECHR have no say in what we decide and can NOT overturn any decision we make....Just to make sure i`m reading that right?
14 April 2015, 12:05 AM
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LOL - is this supposed to be a serious response? Or is it a Daily Mail editorial?
These are not the rights of countries, they are yours and mine. That's the whole point. You seriously want a national government tearing those up for us, and replacing them with what they see fit?
The problem isn't the ECHR it's the way OUR courts have interpreted a FEW cases. A British bill of rights would have EXACTLY the same problems.
These are not the rights of countries, they are yours and mine. That's the whole point. You seriously want a national government tearing those up for us, and replacing them with what they see fit?
The problem isn't the ECHR it's the way OUR courts have interpreted a FEW cases. A British bill of rights would have EXACTLY the same problems.
Rights should be subject to sanction, and in my view should be judged by those subject to scrutiny.
14 April 2015, 12:22 AM
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Quote from Simon Kilmer from the "Independent" newspaper last week.
"One of the most depressing aspects of last week's debate was that Nigel Farage was the only participant who sounded like a human being, who spoke the authentic uninhibited language of the voting public. Could that be because he's the only party leader who truly believes in what he's saying? The others come across as people who have been told what to say, and are tutored to within an inch of their joyless lives. It's like their roles are being played by second grade actors."
"One of the most depressing aspects of last week's debate was that Nigel Farage was the only participant who sounded like a human being, who spoke the authentic uninhibited language of the voting public. Could that be because he's the only party leader who truly believes in what he's saying? The others come across as people who have been told what to say, and are tutored to within an inch of their joyless lives. It's like their roles are being played by second grade actors."
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