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Alan Jeffery 10 April 2015 10:01 PM

Policies
 
Help me out with this would you?
I'm trying to find out what's wrong with these policies, but I'm damned if I can.
Would anybody tell me where the problem is?

1. Get Britain out of the European Union
2. Get control of immigration with an Australian style points system
3. Cut £9bn from our foreign aid budget
4. Ensure our armed forces are properly equipped
5. Scrap the HS2 project
6. Foreign vehicles to require a “Britdisc pass” to pay for the use of our roads as we do over there!
7. Houses on brownfield sites to be Stamp Duty exempt on first sale
8. Local referenda for development, if triggered by 5% of electorate
9. Withdrawing from the European Court of Human Rights
10. Replacing the Human Rights Act with a British Bill of Rights
11. Simplifying planning regulations for commercial properties
12. Abolishing Inheritance Tax
13. Ensuring migrants have NHS approved health insurance until they have paid into the system for five years
14. Ending hospital car parking charges
15. Ensuring a high standard of English speaking in the NHS
16. Repealing the Climate Change Act 2008 which costs the economy £18bn per year
17. No new taxpayer subsidy for wind farms
18. Leaving the Common Agricultural Policy
19. Reinstating British territorial waters
20. Ban live animal exports for slaughter
21. Scrapping the “Bedroom Tax”
22. Safeguarding visitation rights for grandparents
23. Prioritising social housing for those whose parents and grandparents were born locally
24. Reaffirming British laws, rather than allowing dual track legal systems for minorities in the UK
25. Promoting patriotism and the importance of British values in our schools

RA Dunk 10 April 2015 10:09 PM

You ever considered going into politics, I would vote for you.

bob wrx 10 April 2015 10:10 PM

As Dunc says

warrenm2 11 April 2015 01:04 AM

Looks good to me...

hodgy0_2 11 April 2015 01:18 AM

Gish gallop

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop

The technique of conspirito fuctards, or fucto conspitrads the world over, from creationist, to climate change deniers, thru to truthers and pseudo scientist of every hue, the world over

All hail to anti knowledge

lozgti1 11 April 2015 01:18 AM

Everyone votes labour or conservative and nothing ever actually happens once they are in!

Apart from Gordon Brown obliterating the known world.lol

lordharding 11 April 2015 07:08 AM

Policies are all common sense and excellent
Vote UKIP

Ordinary people who actually care for this once great country wrote them
Amd if they got in would start to sort out the mess we are in now

Dave Y 11 April 2015 07:23 AM

Vote for Alan Jeffrey !

neil-h 11 April 2015 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by lordharding (Post 11662915)
Policies are all common sense and excellent
Vote UKIP

Ordinary people who actually care for this once great country wrote them
Amd if they got in would start to sort out the mess we are in now

The futures bright, the futures UKIP eh?

Osimabu 11 April 2015 07:36 AM

I'll tell you what's wrong with them Alan - nothing!

I fear it's a bit late for you to run for PM this time though.

Alan Jeffery 11 April 2015 11:47 AM

I'll start at the bottom and work up.. :lol1:

Martin2005 11 April 2015 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by Alan Jeffery (Post 11662790)
Help me out with this would you?
I'm trying to find out what's wrong with these policies, but I'm damned if I can.
Would anybody tell me where the problem is?

1. Get Britain out of the European Union
2. Get control of immigration with an Australian style points system
3. Cut £9bn from our foreign aid budget
4. Ensure our armed forces are properly equipped
5. Scrap the HS2 project
6. Foreign vehicles to require a “Britdisc pass” to pay for the use of our roads as we do over there!
7. Houses on brownfield sites to be Stamp Duty exempt on first sale
8. Local referenda for development, if triggered by 5% of electorate
9. Withdrawing from the European Court of Human Rights
10. Replacing the Human Rights Act with a British Bill of Rights
11. Simplifying planning regulations for commercial properties
12. Abolishing Inheritance Tax
13. Ensuring migrants have NHS approved health insurance until they have paid into the system for five years
14. Ending hospital car parking charges
15. Ensuring a high standard of English speaking in the NHS
16. Repealing the Climate Change Act 2008 which costs the economy £18bn per year
17. No new taxpayer subsidy for wind farms
18. Leaving the Common Agricultural Policy
19. Reinstating British territorial waters
20. Ban live animal exports for slaughter
21. Scrapping the “Bedroom Tax”
22. Safeguarding visitation rights for grandparents
23. Prioritising social housing for those whose parents and grandparents were born locally
24. Reaffirming British laws, rather than allowing dual track legal systems for minorities in the UK
25. Promoting patriotism and the importance of British values in our schools

Apart from the fact that this is all just reactionary bull****, nothing

Chip 11 April 2015 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by Alan Jeffery (Post 11662790)
Help me out with this would you?
I'm trying to find out what's wrong with these policies, but I'm damned if I can.
Would anybody tell me where the problem is?

1. Get Britain out of the European Union - not so sure, will jobs be lost if we do? most base coming out on the silly little laws brought in by EU which always generate bad publicity

2. Get control of immigration with an Australian style points system - Totally agree

3. Cut £9bn from our foreign aid budget- But how much revenue does this aid generate for us by trading with these countries

4. Ensure our armed forces are properly equipped - definately

5. Scrap the HS2 project - maybe, but invest the same amount on the railways where it is needed.

6. Foreign vehicles to require a “Britdisc pass” to pay for the use of our roads as we do over there!- Agree

7. Houses on brownfield sites to be Stamp Duty exempt on first sale- Agree

8. Local referenda for development, if triggered by 5% of electorate- Agree

9. Withdrawing from the European Court of Human Rights- Agree

10. Replacing the Human Rights Act with a British Bill of Rights- Agree

11. Simplifying planning regulations for commercial properties-Agree

12. Abolishing Inheritance Tax- Agree, a most unfair tax.

13. Ensuring migrants have NHS approved health insurance until they have paid into the system for five years- Agree strongly

14. Ending hospital car parking charges- someone has to pay for the building and upkeep of car parks, in Wales where most car parks are free the cost of this is borne by the hospitals, I'd rather pay a little to park and see the money being used on care. Long term patients could have passes for visiting families to park as could frequent out-paitents etc

15. Ensuring a high standard of English speaking in the NHS- Definately.

16. Repealing the Climate Change Act 2008 which costs the economy £18bn per year- well, my solar panels pay me nicely every quarter ;)

17. No new taxpayer subsidy for wind farms- power needs to come from somewhere, wind farms are clean and provide cheap leccy when running, only when windy though. We need to look at clean fuels ,invest more in hydro as well.

18. Leaving the Common Agricultural Policy- Agree

19. Reinstating British territorial waters-Agree

20. Ban live animal exports for slaughter- Agree, and more should be done promoting British produce rather than importing foreign rubbish ie supermarkets

21. Scrapping the “Bedroom Tax”- For some maybe, for others who do not contribute and never have yet live alone in a 4 bed detached house as a friend of ours does then no, why should we subsidise their living arangements.

22. Safeguarding visitation rights for grandparents- agree

23. Prioritising social housing for those whose parents and grandparents were born locally- Agree

24. Reaffirming British laws, rather than allowing dual track legal systems for minorities in the UK-Definately

25. Promoting patriotism and the importance of British values in our schools

100% spot on.

b3nmw 11 April 2015 05:27 PM

I think that's would most people want. I think we are led by a bunch of toffs who are there for themselves. You get my vote Alan :luxhello:

b3nmw 11 April 2015 05:29 PM

Pardon my grammar it's my iphone

Steve T 11 April 2015 06:54 PM

You,ve got my vote aswell Alan.:thumb: Steve.

ALi-B 11 April 2015 07:04 PM


more should be done promoting British produce rather than importing foreign rubbish
Try some properly cooked Argentinian beef if you ever get the chance. Puts British and Scottish beef to shame. :(

Promotion is all well and good if the product is good enough. And it needs to be further than the just the home market. British Leyland fell in to that trap, and look where that ended up.

Quite a populist manifesto there. Not much wrong with it, but details probably would complicate it though - i.e ECHR...replacing it with a UK one...it'll only be any good if the UK version is better implemented.

neil-h 11 April 2015 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by ALi-B (Post 11663166)
Quite a populist manifesto there. Not much wrong with it, but details probably would complicate it though - i.e ECHR...replacing it with a UK one...it'll only be any good if the UK version is better implemented.

And there in lies the problem. Put anytime into thinking about the implementation and most of what UKIP propose becomes pointless/unworkable or in other words, a colossal waste of tax payers money.

paulr 11 April 2015 07:42 PM

2. Demographics my dear.

Nuff said.

Barxy 11 April 2015 08:56 PM

To the people who are dont realise, im pretty sure all points above are from UKIPs manifesto... And are not made up by the OP....
Im also guessing this was a thread in an attempt to show people who dislike UKIP that infact their policies are pretty good....

dpb 11 April 2015 09:22 PM

There's a couple resonable policies in there


Which explains totally where ukip will finish up

warrenm2 11 April 2015 10:56 PM


Originally Posted by dpb (Post 11663250)
There's a couple resonable policies in there


Which explains totally where ukip will finish up

Depends if idiots think "It'll make no difference" or if people actually think "I'm going to vote for something that actually looks OK" then you might be surprised

dpb 11 April 2015 11:08 PM

As much chance as Syriza of rescuing us from the mire :thumb:

lordharding 11 April 2015 11:33 PM

Local poll in Cumbria show
Tory 26
Labour 25
Ukip 18
Lib. 2
Green. 3

Undecided 26

Ukip are making massive gains up north with coming sense policies

There is a lot of "closset " ukip voters who don't want to admit to voting ukip as its too radical and not tradionally safe but I think on election day the will be a lots of ukip gains

Going to be a great election

For those anti ukip read the original thread post and decide if they are ok

Let's face it Cameron has DOUBLED the national debt and mess that brown left us is with the classic
No money left note

neil-h 12 April 2015 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by warrenm2 (Post 11663298)
Depends if idiots think "It'll make no difference" or if people actually think "I'm going to vote for something that actually looks OK" then you might be surprised

which party is that then? :wonder:

warrenm2 12 April 2015 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by neil-h (Post 11663387)
which party is that then? :wonder:

Have you read the rest of this thread?

Tidgy 12 April 2015 04:32 PM

only problem with that lot is number 1, 99.9% of people don;t fully understand the implications of this, they just go with what ever is press/ukip spoon fed

warrenm2 12 April 2015 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by lordharding (Post 11663319)
There is a lot of "closset" [sic] ukip voters who don't want to admit to voting ukip as its too radical and not tradionally safe but I think on election day the will be a lots of ukip gains

I think this is by far and away the biggest factor, I've seen it myself door canvassing and telling at polling stations, people support UKIP but aren't saying publically.

Read below the line at various newspapers and you see comments like "I can't believe UKIP is so low in the polls, everyone I speak to is voting UKIP", there is much more going on than the media is letting on to

Tidgy 12 April 2015 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by lordharding (Post 11663319)
Local poll in Cumbria show
Tory 26
Labour 25
Ukip 18
Lib. 2
Green. 3

Undecided 26

Ukip are making massive gains up north with coming sense policies

There is a lot of "closset " ukip voters who don't want to admit to voting ukip as its too radical and not tradionally safe but I think on election day the will be a lots of ukip gains

Going to be a great election

For those anti ukip read the original thread post and decide if they are ok

Let's face it Cameron has DOUBLED the national debt and mess that brown left us is with the classic
No money left note


problem i have with ukip is the seem to be just always going on about imigration being to blame for just about everything.

Barxy 12 April 2015 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by Tidgy (Post 11663611)
only problem with that lot is number 1, 99.9% of people don;t fully understand the implications of this, they just go with what ever is press/ukip spoon fed

Go on, what are all the implications that outweigh the ridiculous fees we pay to be a member when we can clearly do without them....


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