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Old 03 April 2015, 10:24 PM
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The audience were just as wooden as the candidates ........
Old 03 April 2015, 10:59 PM
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I guess the audience was strictly vetted. Not just to keep out the vocal/opinionated types (like the blue-haired shouty woman http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014...n_6313760.html ).

And of course any dirka dirka with a TNT vest fighting for a front row seat ready to blow up the chances of any party leader winning the election. Its probably quite high on the audience vetting agenda now we're blocking them from going to Syria Dare I say it, if they were all blown up we'd get a fresh chance of finding new credible leaders for all of the current parties.

No doubt I'll get this thread flagged up by an intelligence agency, we'll get searched, equipment confiscated, and when they find nothing, be faced with a false charge of illegal **** possession.

Anyhoo.....all these promises made by politicians. Should there be a law that makes breaking these promises illegal? Few weeks in the stocks? Dunking stool? Or just a good ol'fashioned caning....Singapore style.

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Old 04 April 2015, 11:02 PM
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Think Farage is going to walk this election.Lol.Then I was going to say dont laugh!

Pub incident also helped him greatly

If only the other parties were not so onboxious
Old 04 April 2015, 11:50 PM
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Thing is UKIP don't have enough following to win outright.

Is it statistically possible for them to become the second party in a coalition; I don't think it is.
Old 05 April 2015, 12:00 AM
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SNP will be the second party and Nicola Sturgeon will work with David Cameron.
Old 05 April 2015, 12:08 AM
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Guys and girls, have you seen this yet?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-10150899.html

Farage gets my vote to look the funniest in it. Second place goes to Miliband.
Old 05 April 2015, 06:29 AM
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lol.Excellent
Old 05 April 2015, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
Thing is UKIP don't have enough following to win outright.

Is it statistically possible for them to become the second party in a coalition; I don't think it is.
Surely you jest, Sir?

The only parties that are likely to hold any influence after May 7 beyond the obvious two are the Liberals, the SNP and the DUP who ironically weren't even invited to the debate.
The rest, including UKIP, should be ecstatic if they get more than 5 MPs. Involve them in a coalition and you'd need all of them.
Old 05 April 2015, 10:29 AM
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Well that was kind of what I was alluding to.
Old 05 April 2015, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by c_maguire
Surely you jest, Sir?

The only parties that are likely to hold any influence after May 7 beyond the obvious two are the Liberals, the SNP and the DUP who ironically weren't even invited to the debate.
The rest, including UKIP, should be ecstatic if they get more than 5 MPs. Involve them in a coalition and you'd need all of them.
Come on then, put your marker down.... https://www.scoobynet.com/non-scooby...-ukip-win.html
Old 05 April 2015, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by warrenm2
Come on then, put your marker down.... https://www.scoobynet.com/non-scooby...-ukip-win.html
Your brackets don't quite match my gut instinct. Had you no MPs currently then I would go 1-5.
As it is you have 2, one of which (Reckless) is somewhat iffy and the other (Carswell) a shoe in.
I fancy Farage to win his seat, so that gives you 2 or 3 straight off.
Personally I think 4-6 is likely, with 2-3 elected up North by working class areas (i.e. not all that bright with polarized, often distorted, views on core UKIP policies). Probably former Labour seats rather than Conservative. Maybe 1 seat won from the Conservatives down south, apart from Farage, if you get lucky.
Old 05 April 2015, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by c_maguire
Your brackets don't quite match my gut instinct. Had you no MPs currently then I would go 1-5.
As it is you have 2, one of which (Reckless) is somewhat iffy and the other (Carswell) a shoe in.
I fancy Farage to win his seat, so that gives you 2 or 3 straight off.
Personally I think 4-6 is likely, with 2-3 elected up North by working class areas (i.e. not all that bright with polarized, often distorted, views on core UKIP policies). Probably former Labour seats rather than Conservative. Maybe 1 seat won from the Conservatives down south, apart from Farage, if you get lucky.
OK thx for that, one of us is gonna have a cognitive dissonance ringing in their ears come May 8....!
Old 05 April 2015, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by warrenm2
OK thx for that, one of us is gonna have a cognitive dissonance ringing in their ears come May 8....!
I have no problem with you doing better than I think you will, better that than the other possibilities, as I don't hold to the idea that a UKIP vote is a vote for Milliband. I believe the UKIP vote is more evenly spread than that.
Whereas an SNP vote is far more damaging to Labour.
Funny how it turned out really.
Old 05 April 2015, 08:34 PM
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The sickening thing, for me, is that UKIP could get 5 MP's by polling 15% of the vote, where the SNP get 45 MPs for 4%

And yes, I do know why...but it's still wrong.
Old 05 April 2015, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
The sickening thing, for me, is that UKIP could get 5 MP's by polling 15% of the vote, where the SNP get 45 MPs for 4%

And yes, I do know why...but it's still wrong.
Please explain ?
Old 05 April 2015, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
The sickening thing, for me, is that UKIP could get 5 MP's by polling 15% of the vote, where the SNP get 45 MPs for 4%

And yes, I do know why...but it's still wrong.
But it's democracy?

This sums it up quite nicely TBH.....

Old 05 April 2015, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by warrenm2
OK thx for that, one of us is gonna have a cognitive dissonance ringing in their ears come May 8....!

So how is Farage doing in Thanet? Do you think he'll win?
Old 05 April 2015, 09:01 PM
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Scotland has 59 seats out of 650 and with circa 10% of the population seems more or less bang on to me. I recon 35 + will be SNP post May 8th.

If you ukip get 15% of the vote they will get a lot more than 5 seats.
Old 05 April 2015, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by daviee
Please explain ?
it's all to do with the number of people in a mp's area
example labour 45 seat's 400'000 total votes
ukip 5 seats 1'5000.000 votes
it's seats that wins not the number of votes, that's what's wrong with the current system
Old 05 April 2015, 10:30 PM
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Hopefully this will be the last ever election fought under the current first part the post system.
Old 06 April 2015, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Hopefully this will be the last ever election fought under the current first part the post system.
It didn't sound like that would be the case on Question Time as most of the panel were all for keeping it and as we know politicians know how to work the system to get what they want.
Old 06 April 2015, 09:21 AM
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While congress in the USA has something like 540 seats. When, if ever, will the UK realise there are too many politicians in Westminster, of which probably 50% only represent a minority of the population.

Maybe Guy Fawkes was on to something
Old 06 April 2015, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B

Maybe Guy Fawkes was on to something
Was most probably the last person to enter that building with an honest intention as well.
Old 06 April 2015, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Hopefully this will be the last ever election fought under the current first part the post system.
I wish I could believe that...I really do.
Old 06 April 2015, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by An0n0m0us
It didn't sound like that would be the case on Question Time as most of the panel were all for keeping it and as we know politicians know how to work the system to get what they want.
This^^^^

Why would anyone think it is likely to change?
Old 06 April 2015, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by An0n0m0us
It didn't sound like that would be the case on Question Time as most of the panel were all for keeping it and as we know politicians know how to work the system to get what they want.
What I found strangest about this was that despite him saying he thought Labour and the Conservatives were both walking corpses of parties, even Peter Hitchens came out and said FPTP was a good thing. So is the guy just very mixed-up, or is he not being entirely honest about wanting to see the back of the current Big Two?
Old 06 April 2015, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
So how is Farage doing in Thanet? Do you think he'll win?
Yes he'll win it, the party is throwing a lot of resource at the seat, it will get absolutely top priority. The Tories have a new guy, so no incumbency factor, Labour are trying to play the tactical voting card, Lib Dems are none existant. The question is what majority, that's a much more interesting question
Old 06 April 2015, 05:13 PM
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Think everyone is going to be very surprised!!
Old 06 April 2015, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by daviee
Scotland has 59 seats out of 650 and with circa 10% of the population seems more or less bang on to me. I recon 35 + will be SNP post May 8th.

If you ukip get 15% of the vote they will get a lot more than 5 seats.
They almost certainly won't.

They need over 25% before they start winning a reasonable number of seats.

15% will probably only get them 0-5 seats

There are plenty of election calculators online. Try it for yourself.

http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/homepage.html

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