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Old Nov 7, 2014 | 05:50 PM
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OK so its 6 months today until the General Election. Lets quickly take stock of where we are. Labour is having a leadership crisis, and Ed might not survive (developing!), Cameron is desperately trying to minimise the damage the £1.7bn EU demand is making, Merkel has told him no way on free movement negotiations, and no-one has seen nor heard of Clegg in months and frankly no-one cares.

So the fox in the henhouse is UKIP. We won Clacton with 60% of the vote, narrowly missed Heywood (84th safest Labour seat) by 600 votes, and have the 271st most likely UKIP seat in Rochester with a 15% percentage point lead on the 20th Nov. Survation have just released a new poll showing UKIP on 24% just 3% points behind the Tories http://www1.politicalbetting.com/ind...essure-off-ed/

So things are moving. But how far can they go? Lets see what you all think. How many seats will UKIP have after the dust settles after the next GE?

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Old Nov 7, 2014 | 06:27 PM
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Gives it a rest will you
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Old Nov 7, 2014 | 06:31 PM
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all ukip have to do to get further is to promise to only give immigrants the same benefits they would of got in thier home country, in plain english for the hand wringers on here,
IF YOU HAVE A JOB TO COME TO NO PROBLEM
IF YOU HAVE FAMILY HERE THAT WILL SUPPORT YOU FOR FREE NO PROBLEM
NO JOB NO FAMILY, BENEFIT'S EQUAL TO THAT OF YOUR HOME COUNTRY IE **** ALL,
no more immigrants from any countryt with no benefit's system
PROBLEM SOLVED
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Old Nov 7, 2014 | 07:01 PM
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I suspect not as well as the current hype suggest, I say that not because I disagree with pretty much all they stand for (I do) but that is just how UK general election politics behave


I tend to agree with Boris Johnson on this, when he said

“If we left the EU, we would end this sterile debate, and we would have to recognise that most of our problems are not caused by “Bwussels”, but by chronic British short-termism, inadequate management, sloth, low skills, a culture of easy gratification and underinvestment in both human and physical capital and infrastructure,”.

And that may dawn on a few people during the campaign
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OK, but how many MPs?!
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Old Nov 7, 2014 | 07:11 PM
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okay, had to repost as i am dealing with working on a HP tablet, which is a joke device

6 to 10 - max
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Old Nov 7, 2014 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Gives it a rest will you
FFS ignore his posts if you don't like them, it really is that simple!
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I have always thought it would be another hung parliament and lanour would be the ones to get in but with who? Lib dems or UKIP?
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Conkip parliament
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Old Nov 7, 2014 | 09:46 PM
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ukip vote is spread to evenly to win many sites they need PR to get a chance to win seats

Imagine what the election would be like if we had voted for PR like the Lib Dems wanted us to in the referendum a few years back!

anyway there is no way we will get a vote on leaving the EU the Scots scared them to much they will only let us vote if they know we will give them the outcome they want to stay in
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Originally Posted by Adrian F
ukip vote is spread to evenly to win many sites they need PR to get a chance to win seats

Imagine what the election would be like if we had voted for PR like the Lib Dems wanted us to in the referendum a few years back!

anyway there is no way we will get a vote on leaving the EU the Scots scared them to much they will only let us vote if they know we will give them the outcome they want to stay in
Well things have moved on a bit since then. The East coast and SW are particularly strong for instance
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
FFS ignore his posts if you don't like them, it really is that simple!
Wonder if he hassles JackClark for posting about Apple, or Matteboy for talking about watches...?
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Old Nov 7, 2014 | 10:36 PM
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Oh no not another watches thread,I'm sick of hearing about Apple,we should send em all back where they came from......Joking!
This country wouldn't be the great place it is without apples
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None hopefully.
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I was all for voting ukip months ago,but recent weeks i not so sure.
I have a little changed my mind coming out of the EU,mainly because i have worked abroad,i still travel at times in europe,have a place in prague,and having lived and worked in czech they have always been very welcoming,most places have been the same.The only little hostilility i have came across is the lack of other languages British people don't know or learn.
But we always bang on about how foreigners don't learn or speak the native language when they come to the uk.
First time i went to czech i sat one night in a pub with five czech blokes and that's how i got started.
Funny thing is was a small village pub near slovakia,and they could talk english.

As for how many seats fecked if i know
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Old Nov 8, 2014 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by madscoob
all ukip have to do to get further is to promise to only give immigrants the same benefits they would of got in thier home country, in plain english for the hand wringers on here,
IF YOU HAVE A JOB TO COME TO NO PROBLEM
IF YOU HAVE FAMILY HERE THAT WILL SUPPORT YOU FOR FREE NO PROBLEM
NO JOB NO FAMILY, BENEFIT'S EQUAL TO THAT OF YOUR HOME COUNTRY IE **** ALL,
no more immigrants from any countryt with no benefit's system
PROBLEM SOLVED
Any immigration should be based on a points system, if the country needs them let them come.

What we don't need is mass unskilled EU migration, driving down wages and putting pressure on public services.

I wouldn't like my son to be 'educated' in a school where most of the kids don't speak English.
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Old Nov 8, 2014 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Gives it a rest will you
Its not Warren that needs to give it a rest , it's you Martin.
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Old Nov 8, 2014 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Gives it a rest will you
"Mr Kettle, you're black." said Mr Pot.
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Old Nov 8, 2014 | 10:38 AM
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I reckon their potential seat count has plummeted in the last 24 hrs


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Originally Posted by dpb
I reckon their potential seat count has plummeted in the last 24 hrs
Why, because of Osbourne and his "victory"? As it becomes more obvious what has actually happened, I think it will actually help UKIP. Time will tell though....
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Yup Osbourne's attempt to dupe the public again won't do them any favors
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Originally Posted by ossett2k2
Yup Osbourne's attempt to dupe the public again won't do them any favors
Sadly I disagree. A lot of the public are stupid, the ones that vote for the likes of Cameron and Miliband for starters!
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Stupid May be a bit harsh tbh. Many people are not that interested in politics,can you blame them with all the double talking,lying,back stabbing MPs we have.
I don't particular agree with everything UKIP say or stand for but they have got more people interested and maybe less naive about politics so is only a good thing :thumbs:
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Originally Posted by ossett2k2
Stupid May be a bit harsh tbh. Many people are not that interested in politics,can you blame them with all the double talking,lying,back stabbing MPs we have.
I don't particular agree with everything UKIP say or stand for but they have got more people interested and maybe less naive about politics so is only a good thing :thumbs:
Yep, agreed
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For those of you of a betting nature, Ladbrokes have over 49.5 seats at 12/1, over 19.5 at 11/4.... http://sportsbeta.ladbrokes.com/Brit...141m1Z1z141ng/

(Enter promo code F100 for up to 100 quid first bet back - no affiliation, just they have the best market on political betting)

You could probably safely count on those shortening too....

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Originally Posted by warrenm2
For those of you of a betting nature, Ladbrokes have over 49.5 seats at 12/1, over 19.5 at 11/4.... http://sportsbeta.ladbrokes.com/Brit...141m1Z1z141ng/

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You could probably safely count on those shortening too....
A Con/UKIP coalition looks a canny punt @ 14/1.
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I will be voting UKIP. Shifted from the Conservative party. I have emailed Grant Shapps (Local MP) and explained why.

Too little, too late.
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Old Nov 11, 2014 | 07:36 PM
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I will be voting UKIP. Shifted from the Conservative party. I have emailed Grant Shapps (Local MP) and explained why.

Too little, too late.

So you're the sort of bloke who does things like that
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Old Nov 11, 2014 | 07:48 PM
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Well with the EAW fiasco last night, I think more Tories will be leaving if they have any sense

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Looks like she's riding *****.
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