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Old 14 April 2009, 06:17 PM
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Default WHITELINE FRONT ARB UPGRADE?

Just about to go down the handling improvement route, Ive been donated what i think is a whiteline rear ARB, its 22mm with yellow bushes but its been hand painted silver and the links are steel rods instead of the large plastic U shape jobby's that ive got on my 06 wrx (are there any numbers stamped into them if i sand all the paint off?), if it turns out it does'nt fit i'll go and buy one, iv'e also got whiteline "flatout" springs, then i'm off to powerstation for a geometry set up, the thing i want to know is have you had a uprated front ARB fitted and does it really improve things?
Old 14 April 2009, 06:51 PM
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Ive got a classic arb on a bug eye so it may fit, the steel links are just the cheaper versions of the D ones you mentioned.
Old 14 April 2009, 07:26 PM
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I read somewhere here that Nolan top strut mounts, enabling the caster to be adjusted make a big difference to the front end. Lots of folk have anti lift kit fitted. May be you can confirm with power station?
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Hi 401,

My version...

1. Fitted Whiteline an adjustable rear bar, transformed the car, best value mod on my car.
2.ALK and front ARB fitted, calmed down the oversteer (see above) and increased the grip all round to 11 from 10.
3. Geometry reset, icing on the cake, lots of -ve camber and better again.

HTH

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Originally Posted by dunx
Hi 401,

My version...

1. Fitted Whiteline an adjustable rear bar, transformed the car, best value mod on my car.
2.ALK and front ARB fitted, calmed down the oversteer (see above) and increased the grip all round to 11 from 10.
3. Geometry reset, icing on the cake, lots of -ve camber and better again.

HTH

dunx
Cheers mate, give me over steer allday long i luvs it, Its when it cant make up its mind between that and nose heavy run wide bloody under steer, but if this freebee rear ARB does fit would you recomend the front ARB or the ALK as a priority?
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No ! not as a priority... I waited about six months, but the rear bar TRANSFORMS the car's handling, the expensive front end up-grade just adds more total grip, but at a fairly great expense.

Some people are suggesting adjustable top mounts for the front, as you can add castor, which adds camber as you turn into corners.

HTH

dunx
Old 14 April 2009, 09:28 PM
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So with the springs (already fitted) 22mm rear ARB and powerstation geo set up it'll be a big improvement yeah?
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iv just ordered a 22mm rear arb for my classic iv got uprated droplinks and hks springs .so im hoping for a big change i hate understeer the bar should be with me thursday and will fit it straight away if weathers dry . then as above maybe front bar and antilift kit .
is the back caster/camber adjusterble on the classics or will i need other bits to get the best fast road set up thanks

and sorry to gatecrash
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Originally Posted by andywiddss1
iv just ordered a 22mm rear arb for my classic iv got uprated droplinks and hks springs .so im hoping for a big change i hate understeer the bar should be with me thursday and will fit it straight away if weathers dry . then as above maybe front bar and antilift kit .
is the back caster/camber adjusterble on the classics or will i need other bits to get the best fast road set up thanks

and sorry to gatecrash
Posibly camber bolts at about £40, where did you order the ARB from?
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demon tweeks 135 quid delivered 22mm rear adjusterble whiteline

not sure how the camber bolts work its my first scooby im more in the no with front wheel drive cars ,thats why i hate understeer ha ha got rid of it on my 160bhp saxo track car by fitting full grp n billstens and a diff was well worth it
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Camber bolts are £25 at Camskill ! Have an eccentric centre section that mis-aligns the strut to the hub to get more negative camber, you can fit two per side if necessary...

HTH

dunx

P.S. NEWAGE - REAR BAR = 22mm for a clumsy driver, 24mm for a smooth circuit style. imho
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Originally Posted by dunx
Camber bolts are £25 at Camskill ! Have an eccentric centre section that mis-aligns the strut to the hub to get more negative camber, you can fit two per side if necessary...

HTH

dunx

P.S. NEWAGE - REAR BAR = 22mm for a clumsy driver, 24mm for a smooth circuit style. imho
thanks mate do i need adjustable front top mounts to get the best set up
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hi all..i've got a cupboard of bits to go on my96 classic wagon just waiting for money to splash out on the main part ie. the suspension kit...tein, bc, other....i'm not sure which route to go on this..
the list so far
24mm rear whiteline ARB (22mm Front coming)
whiteline wire drop links
strut
ALK
I'm not totally familiar with the underside of my car but it was mentioned that when fitting the rear antiroll bar it may be best to replace a component of which I don't know the name of that is attached directly to the arb because it may put the said component under heavy strain..Hope someone can understand that statement and unravel it for me with answers. Thanks
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drop links bolt to the arb the standard ones are made of plastic and crack or bend so best to upgrade to whiteline ones as on ur list

bit of a guide here fella then u can see what fits were

https://www.scoobynet.com/suspension...ides-help.html

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Old 16 April 2009, 03:39 PM
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Great thxs andywiddss1..
Old 16 April 2009, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by messi
Great thxs andywiddss1..

i fitted mine today a 22mm whiteline, the one i took off was 18mm fitted with uprated steel drop link ,all i will say is my god what a difference corners so flat now



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Cost about the same ALK plus front ARB or top mounts, but I went for ARB as Teins come with top mounts...

HTH

dunx

P.S. Good isn't it !
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right quick update
iv now got 22 rear set on hardest 22 front also whiteline front wire droplinks and rear steel hardrace droplinks

all i will say is wow what a difference the car corners so flat amazing

anyone recommend anywere in yorkshire that could set the caster and camber up for me
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Revolution up north.

RE Motorsport in Elvington.

I used Autosaurus in Driffield, Skyline specialist, but does work on all sorts.

HTH

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Originally Posted by dunx
Revolution up north.

RE Motorsport in Elvington.

I used Autosaurus in Driffield, Skyline specialist, but does work on all sorts.

HTH

dunx
thanks am i best getting anti lift kit first ,does the antilift make alot of difference to the handaling
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It helps,but not as big a change as the rear bar (IMHO), but you would need the geometry doing yet again....

HTH

dunx
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Originally Posted by andywiddss1
right quick update
iv now got 22 rear set on hardest 22 front also whiteline front wire droplinks and rear steel hardrace droplinks

all i will say is wow what a difference the car corners so flat amazing

anyone recommend anywere in yorkshire that could set the caster and camber up for me

www.remotorsport.co.uk 5 mins off A64 York
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what are the white line springs like ? been looking into get some on my classic to replce a broken one. thinking it might be worth replacing the lot to start freshning things up.
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