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sorting out handling!
Got my payrise backdated finally and was set to spend it on more power mods but after getting my *** handed by a new civic typeR i think its suspension and chassis mods that are in order (about time really) been offered a good price on some hks coilovers with top mounts,then whiteline rear droplinks,anti roll bar and alk, got around a grand to spend all in just now would that do for now or have i forgoten anythin important,just looking for better feel in the corners as i have no confidence in the standard suspension
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I think coil-overs for a road car may be too much and the roll bars etc also to be in your budget?
IMHO and experience:
AST one way coilovers with 50/40 spring rates.
Adjustable top mounts
Whiteline 22mm roll bar front, 24mm adjustble rear with steel drop links.
Camber bolts in the rear, possibly the front
A specialist alignment to make best use of that lot and do not forget decent tyres too.
Setting the dampers is easy, try 7 clicks from fully soft in the front and 5 or 6 in the rear.
Set the rear bar to middle of the 3 holes.
Alignment is a bit of a mine field, but 2 deg negative camber on all 4 wheels, max caster in the front (hence top mounts) and zero toe at the front and about 0.5mm toe-in in the rear.
Call Powerstation's curtis for a full deal on all those parts (except the tyres!) and someone local to fit/align.
The car will be a Civic type R eater no probs.
IMHO and experience:
AST one way coilovers with 50/40 spring rates.
Adjustable top mounts
Whiteline 22mm roll bar front, 24mm adjustble rear with steel drop links.
Camber bolts in the rear, possibly the front
A specialist alignment to make best use of that lot and do not forget decent tyres too.
Setting the dampers is easy, try 7 clicks from fully soft in the front and 5 or 6 in the rear.
Set the rear bar to middle of the 3 holes.
Alignment is a bit of a mine field, but 2 deg negative camber on all 4 wheels, max caster in the front (hence top mounts) and zero toe at the front and about 0.5mm toe-in in the rear.
Call Powerstation's curtis for a full deal on all those parts (except the tyres!) and someone local to fit/align.
The car will be a Civic type R eater no probs.
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i would love the ast's but a bit out of my budget,only really thought about the hks as i been offered them at a good price from someone i know who has damaged his back but the whiteline stuff is a def,powerstation are just too far away,dont have the time to travel all the way there wish they were a bit closer
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Whiteline gets my vote !
Just thrown nearly all the Whiteline catalogue at mine... So obviously gets my vote, with decent trackday tyres the grip is phenomenal and I haven't changed the springs or dampers yet.
Dunx
P.S. To do Prodrive springs on, with "new" rear dampers.... knocking
KYB adjustables are pretty good I hear, they're not coilovers tho'
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P.S. To do Prodrive springs on, with "new" rear dampers.... knocking
KYB adjustables are pretty good I hear, they're not coilovers tho'
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ive got coilovers and on roughish road they are a bit hairy.....had kyb adjustable struts on my white r.a and were emmense.....thats what i would get...also mate swapped coilovers for adj struts...much better for road use...coilovers are great for flat roads......
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You do have to get Coilover well sorted for them to be a 'universal' setting.
Mine will ride B roads well (prob not as well as Sti system) and a roads are a blast. Took some sorting in the end.
Mine will ride B roads well (prob not as well as Sti system) and a roads are a blast. Took some sorting in the end.
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Just because a unit is a coilover design doesnt dictate that theyre all going to shake youre fillings out. It depends entirely on the design of the damper and the spring rates being run. You can have coilovers that will be softer than the original set up if needs be.
You have to pick the right product for the job but dont assume that because its a coilover it will be nails and give a back breaking ride. Its also not just down to the spring rate, the damping rate also has a huge impact on ride as does the design of the valving itself, some dampers will give a much better low speed ride than others.
That one thing we addressed with our Gen2 coilovers over the Gen1s, improved low speed response to improve ride quality but without sacrificing high speed body and wheel control.
You have to pick the right product for the job but dont assume that because its a coilover it will be nails and give a back breaking ride. Its also not just down to the spring rate, the damping rate also has a huge impact on ride as does the design of the valving itself, some dampers will give a much better low speed ride than others.
That one thing we addressed with our Gen2 coilovers over the Gen1s, improved low speed response to improve ride quality but without sacrificing high speed body and wheel control.
Last edited by bren@apex; 15 October 2007 at 06:05 PM.
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Or cheaper still a set of springs and roll bars from the Whiteline catalogue?
Tony.
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Totally agree about coil-overs.
Suppliers have a duty (imho) to specify suitable parts to customers suitable to their purpose. If they say they are the experts, then they have to apply expertise.
In my case I wanted a system for hillclimbing, but I use the road to get to and from events. I don't takes babies anywhere or grannies etc so my purpose was focused.
I finished up with the right system and my fillings are just fine because the supplier know what he was doing.
Suppliers have a duty (imho) to specify suitable parts to customers suitable to their purpose. If they say they are the experts, then they have to apply expertise.
In my case I wanted a system for hillclimbing, but I use the road to get to and from events. I don't takes babies anywhere or grannies etc so my purpose was focused.
I finished up with the right system and my fillings are just fine because the supplier know what he was doing.
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