Moz_Rb5

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One of the best fights I've watched in years I tipped George Groves to win as I've always had my doubts over Froch.

It was stopped far to early for me and the ref spoilt what could of been a classic. What fight the judges were watching is beyond me.

Rematch I doubt will happen as Froch wont want to do that all over again, George Groves will certainly be a champion in the future. If it was fairly refereed then Carl could of been stopped in each of the first 7 rounds.

stedee

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i`m not really into boxing anymore cos they re all 5hite these days but froch is the most overrated boxer i have ever seen

Worlasshasansti

Was a funny carry on IMO, I think froch had a serious wake up call lol.

Good fight though.

I had froch to win in the 9th and to win outright

Mick

thestumper

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Great fight, probably stopped a little early but Groves would have been on the floor a few seconds later imo as he looked all over the place.
Froch showed what a true champion he is. Yes he was knocked down but got up off the floor and he walked through what Groves had to throw at him after that.

Dave-W-

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this

RobJenks

The fight was stopped too early , Groves winning significantly on points . That is a fact.
Groves being dropped is speculation.
Nobody else in the arena thought that - only the referee, who let Froch get away with a lot of fouls without penalty.
Froch won't fight him again thats for sure.( This is speculation)

mantazini

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If you would understand a bit in boxing Grooves was wining 7 rounds of 8 ... That ref should be sacked . looks like a setup .... Box is disgraceful these days... Watch a new Tyson movie he spills the beans there . Great watch .

urban

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Fight probably was stopped a little early.
Ref should have given him another 30 seconds or so to see if he could recover.

However, his legs looked like they were gone though, and he didn't appear to be able defend himself just before the ref stepped in.

scoobyride

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Fight should have carried on a few seconds more but it was over for groves IMO. He was ahead on points which means sfa when u get into trouble and can't defend yourself...

Tidgy

hmm, just watched it back. its difficult to tell. he did look out on his feet, head was way down and just falling over.

Ref's always gonna be the bad guy in situations like this, but tbh i think he prob made the right choice at that time. It's very easy to judge something afetr the fact when the ref has split seconds to make decisions.

urban

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I agree about the refs.
They can't do right for doing wrong.
Had he let if go on for another 30/40 seconds, and Groves took a beating whilst defenceless, then imagine what the press would be saying.

Ant

I'll always be biased being from notts and a forest fan but if it went on it still would of been the same result, but saying that if the ref hadn't stopped there wouldn't of been so much controversy over the win

Scrappy9

These men hit bloody hard if the ref felt Groves was defenceless he had to stop it, no one wants another Michael Watson scenario. It's a pity Groves didn't drop to the floor and take a count. Two of the three judges had Groves ahead by one round and IMO Froch was looking stronger, the fight was scheduled for 12 rounds I don't think Groves would have lasted. That said think he has put the one punch glass jaw reputation behind him.

salsa-king

agree totally.


BTW.. Froch lived over the road from me (on the next road) .. well you could see his house from our front bedroom windows. Now moved to Burton Joyce in Nottm

MattyB1983

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I don't think Froch will fight again. He's over rated and lacks talent. He's a warrior with a heavy shot and granite chin which is why he's gone as far as he has. When confronted with a good boxer he comes unstuck, eg- groves and ward completely outclassing him.
Groves was fighting for a world title, the ref should of allowed him to go out on his shield. If anything then a standing 8 count can give the ref those few extra seconds to decide if a fighter can carry on. In my eyes groves was caught high on the head, rattled but not out on his feet. I personally think he would of weathered the storm and carried on to win.

thestumper

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There is no standing 8 count in the IBF or the WBA rules or for that matter WBO or WBC.
For a guy that lacks talent he has beat some good boxers.

urban

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I'm not so sure.
Wobbly legs, using the ropes to hold himself up, head down, drunk looking?

fcuked springs to mind

Scrappy9

As already said no standing counts - perhaps lack of experience (or he wasn't thinking straight) not dropping onto a knee for a count. He seemed ok a few seconds after the ref stopped the fight. I don't think Froch pride will allow him to not fight Groves again, you can tell how much it hurts him that Ward beat him, that said I really doubt he could ever beat Ward. I do think he would beat Groves in a rematch.

urban

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Groves won't get a rematch, but I tend agree, Froch would most likely be the winner if it happened.

Moz_Rb5

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Wow some froch fans on this thread, I must of been watching a different fight

ditchmyster

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Just watched the fight on utube.

I can see where all the comments above are coming from, Groves came for a fight and brought it to Froch, as any challenger worth his salt should, he's a good craftsman and was doing really well as would be expected, giving froch plenty of trouble.

I think froch and crew knew what it would be like and showed his experience by letting the younger faster man burn off his fitness and age advantage, froch like any older experienced champion weathered the storm and bided his time.

You could see the young lad had lost a bit of his sparkle and even started to get a bit c0cky, which just shows his in-experience, from that moment on froch upped his game as that was his que to turn the heat up, again a sign of experience.

As for the stoppage, groves took 4/5 good shots that were spot on the money and as above these guys hit pretty hard, yes the ref could have waited 5 seconds more but as froch says in this interview if he got a couple more free hits it could well of ended groves career.

Who's the better boxer, Technically= groves, Tactically= froch and tactics won.
This interview gives a pretty fair assessment IMO.

urban

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Not a fan of either of them.
Just saying it how I seen it.
Groves looked like he was in big trouble, and most likely going to get a KO'd

Tidgy

as above, im not either, i just watched the video back. you a groves fan? hahahahaha

Scrappy9

I am not a Froch fan either just like boxing so responded to your post.
just watched the Froch interview on the link above and was impressed with what he said and pleased his assessment of Groves was positive, as l was not impressed when it appeared after the fight he looked to be ignoring Groves.

urban

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The bit I had to laugh about was after the ref stopped the fight, Groves staggered back protesting with his arms held out, and would have landed on his **** had the ropes not saved him.
He was on a different planet man.

MattyB1983

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Strange how opinions vary so much even though we all watched the same fight. I don't think Groves was hurt anywhere near as badly as has been made out on here. Yes no doubt he was shaken by the shot to the top of the head but badly enough to warrant a stoppage, I don't think so.
We'll see if Froch stands by his word and gives the man a rematch, I very much doubt it.

Scrappy9

You are certainly right about how we all see things differently, just look at the judges two had it Groves one point ahead, which taking into account round one would have been scored 10 - 8 due to the knock down they must have scored it four rounds each - yet the other had a five point gap so six rounds to two.