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14 February 2010, 07:54 PM
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Three weeks ag had my bugeye STi re-mapped to 416 bhp from 401 bhp having put a bigger exhaust on.
Specs for the 400 bhp was FP Green turbo, 650cc injectors and aeromotive FPr from Scoobymania. APS turbo intake pipe, parrallel fuel rail, 3 inch catted exhaust and uprated fuel pumpfrom DSAutomotive in Amesbury. FMIC from MRT (Australia) bought when I had car in Cyprus. RCM headers and up-pipe. GEMS ECU mappedby Steve Simpson at TEG sport Carneforth. The engine has not been rebuilt ever as I have owned the car from brand new. The increase to 416 bhp was made by changing the APS 3 inch exhaust catted for the 3.5 inch bore (turbo back) de-catted exhaust and that is at 97k miles.
Forged rebuild will see nearer 500 bhp with possibly a injector upgrade required or I could go twin injector route.
Did have a healthy 360 bhp prior to the turbo, injector change. Saving about £1300. Turbo was changed because OE item was dying otherwise would have not bothered changing .
Hope this gives you some ideas of what is required. Steve
Specs for the 400 bhp was FP Green turbo, 650cc injectors and aeromotive FPr from Scoobymania. APS turbo intake pipe, parrallel fuel rail, 3 inch catted exhaust and uprated fuel pumpfrom DSAutomotive in Amesbury. FMIC from MRT (Australia) bought when I had car in Cyprus. RCM headers and up-pipe. GEMS ECU mappedby Steve Simpson at TEG sport Carneforth. The engine has not been rebuilt ever as I have owned the car from brand new. The increase to 416 bhp was made by changing the APS 3 inch exhaust catted for the 3.5 inch bore (turbo back) de-catted exhaust and that is at 97k miles.
Forged rebuild will see nearer 500 bhp with possibly a injector upgrade required or I could go twin injector route.
Did have a healthy 360 bhp prior to the turbo, injector change. Saving about £1300. Turbo was changed because OE item was dying otherwise would have not bothered changing .
Hope this gives you some ideas of what is required. Steve
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14 February 2010, 08:29 PM
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Best of ditching the pannel filter and opting for a cold air feed, headers not really needed, i would also add a fuel pump to the list.
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14 February 2010, 09:23 PM
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i didnt need a fuel pump cos i had ppp when i bought mine and the standard filter is good for nearly 400 bhp...
Here is a link that will point you in the right direction, imho you will only need cold air feed if your going over 380/390 bhp.... with the suspension set up right with a true 380 makes a dam quick road car.... also you dont want to compromise reliability unless you have very deep pockets !
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btw powerstation who built the t25 impreza (420bhp) retained the standard air box.......... just my opinion
Here is a link that will point you in the right direction, imho you will only need cold air feed if your going over 380/390 bhp.... with the suspension set up right with a true 380 makes a dam quick road car.... also you dont want to compromise reliability unless you have very deep pockets !
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btw powerstation who built the t25 impreza (420bhp) retained the standard air box.......... just my opinion
14 February 2010, 09:27 PM
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all you can do is read all the post's and evaluate what seems best to yourself. When I decide to start modding my Scooby everyone, at the the time 2004, said Ecutek could not do over about 350bhp. Look at it now and they are doing 500bhp plus, hence my choice of going with a GEMS. 6 months later I would have gone with the Ecutek as it had developed more.
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turbo and remap/ exhaust should see you 400ish ,,and fuel pump if you aint got one ..
iv a wr1 and with just a remap/exhaust got 350 so i think adding a turbo should see me 400
the sti injectors and filter should be ok for 400 i would say
any way good luck as it will never stop at 400 lol
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iv a wr1 and with just a remap/exhaust got 350 so i think adding a turbo should see me 400
the sti injectors and filter should be ok for 400 i would say
any way good luck as it will never stop at 400 lol
stu
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14 February 2010, 11:30 PM
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What have you got at the moment?
It could be that simple modifications to 350 ish will be enough to give you the desired performance. 400 is beyond the reach of the standard turbo, injectors and probably tmic along with a few other things and makes for a biggish budget step...
It could be that simple modifications to 350 ish will be enough to give you the desired performance. 400 is beyond the reach of the standard turbo, injectors and probably tmic along with a few other things and makes for a biggish budget step...
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As has been said, injectors are okay to 400.. but thats their limit
airbox is also okay to 400, along with standard intercooler.
litterally decat, panel filter, turbo.. personnally the md321T works very well on the blobeye sti with it's AVCS heads. Although capable of more than 400bhp it makes for a very useable and wallap of power
other turbos may require headers and would get close but the T just makes sure and is not that laggy at all.
I choose an MY03 sti as my daily drive, the engine in mine is not a wonderful example compared to others but is standard and untouched so I am happy to use the graphs as example.. as the figures are easily matched on most... as the cars do vary a fair bit.
does have some bits changed whcih are unnecessary for your goals but spec is at time of this dyno run - 3inch downpipe mated with a horrible step to 2.5inch decat exhaust, simtek, hybrid fmic, 650cc injectors, 20g, tubular headers
top line is with 10% meth, bottom just vpower
next is same but with md321T no other changes
top line is with 10% meth and bottom line amusingly was 399.9bhp on new setup and just vpower, shame the scaling is different on the graphs but the md321t was actually spooling 500rpm sooner than the 20g.
finally the exhaust was changed to a 3inch all the way through
top line is qith 10% meth, bottom is on the 2.5inch exhaust
Simon
airbox is also okay to 400, along with standard intercooler.
litterally decat, panel filter, turbo.. personnally the md321T works very well on the blobeye sti with it's AVCS heads. Although capable of more than 400bhp it makes for a very useable and wallap of power
other turbos may require headers and would get close but the T just makes sure and is not that laggy at all.I choose an MY03 sti as my daily drive, the engine in mine is not a wonderful example compared to others but is standard and untouched so I am happy to use the graphs as example.. as the figures are easily matched on most... as the cars do vary a fair bit.
does have some bits changed whcih are unnecessary for your goals but spec is at time of this dyno run - 3inch downpipe mated with a horrible step to 2.5inch decat exhaust, simtek, hybrid fmic, 650cc injectors, 20g, tubular headers
top line is with 10% meth, bottom just vpower
next is same but with md321T no other changes
top line is with 10% meth and bottom line amusingly was 399.9bhp on new setup and just vpower, shame the scaling is different on the graphs but the md321t was actually spooling 500rpm sooner than the 20g.
finally the exhaust was changed to a 3inch all the way through
top line is qith 10% meth, bottom is on the 2.5inch exhaust
Simon
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As has been said, injectors are okay to 400.. but thats their limit
airbox is also okay to 400, along with standard intercooler.
litterally decat, panel filter, turbo.. personnally the md321T works very well on the blobeye sti with it's AVCS heads. Although capable of more than 400bhp it makes for a very useable and wallap of power other turbos may require headers and would get close but the T just makes sure and is not that laggy at all.
I choose an MY03 sti as my daily drive, the engine in mine is not a wonderful example compared to others but is standard and untouched so I am happy to use the graphs as example.. as the figures are easily matched on most... as the cars do vary a fair bit.
does have some bits changed whcih are unnecessary for your goals but spec is at time of this dyno run - 3inch downpipe mated with a horrible step to 2.5inch decat exhaust, simtek, hybrid fmic, 650cc injectors, 20g, tubular headers
top line is with 10% meth, bottom just vpower
next is same but with md321T no other changes
top line is with 10% meth and bottom line amusingly was 399.9bhp on new setup and just vpower, shame the scaling is different on the graphs but the md321t was actually spooling 500rpm sooner than the 20g.
finally the exhaust was changed to a 3inch all the way through
top line is qith 10% meth, bottom is on the 2.5inch exhaust
Simon
airbox is also okay to 400, along with standard intercooler.
litterally decat, panel filter, turbo.. personnally the md321T works very well on the blobeye sti with it's AVCS heads. Although capable of more than 400bhp it makes for a very useable and wallap of power
other turbos may require headers and would get close but the T just makes sure and is not that laggy at all.I choose an MY03 sti as my daily drive, the engine in mine is not a wonderful example compared to others but is standard and untouched so I am happy to use the graphs as example.. as the figures are easily matched on most... as the cars do vary a fair bit.
does have some bits changed whcih are unnecessary for your goals but spec is at time of this dyno run - 3inch downpipe mated with a horrible step to 2.5inch decat exhaust, simtek, hybrid fmic, 650cc injectors, 20g, tubular headers
top line is with 10% meth, bottom just vpower
next is same but with md321T no other changes
top line is with 10% meth and bottom line amusingly was 399.9bhp on new setup and just vpower, shame the scaling is different on the graphs but the md321t was actually spooling 500rpm sooner than the 20g.
finally the exhaust was changed to a 3inch all the way through
top line is qith 10% meth, bottom is on the 2.5inch exhaust
Simon
On the scale of things it seems way easier to get 400+ on a newage now than it did 2 years ago or so.
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