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Old 26 October 2006, 09:23 PM
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Was doing 60 mph on a dual carriageway that was 50mph. Noticed Plod & braked.

Noticed on the GPS that 60 on the speedo was showing 56 mph.

Is it true that speedos show 10% more than you are actually doing and,do you get 10% plus 2mph leeway from Plod?

If so 56mph puts me 1 mph under the calculation?

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Old 26 October 2006, 09:24 PM
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watching a program where this was being filmed, in a 40 limit, the copper waffled his stats etc and the result was the radar gun was set to 49 mph.

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Old 26 October 2006, 09:34 PM
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The GPS would be the one to believe as they are quite accurate. My speedo overreads by about 6% compared to my GPS. The leeway varies from county to county i think, hopefully you'll be ok.
Old 26 October 2006, 09:35 PM
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I believe that the ACPO guidelines are 10% + 2mph tolerance but I'm sure that some have been done for less than that?

I've noticed that my speedo on my 03 WRX over-reads slightly in comparison to the GPS reading which is usually around 3-4mph under the speedo.

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Old 26 October 2006, 09:41 PM
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Dave it was in South Wales, where I see you are based.

That bit of the A 40 around Monmouth where it is 50 for about a mile.

Well hidden, if you don't know about it watch out.

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Old 26 October 2006, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by DAVE-W
I believe that the ACPO guidelines are 10% + 2mph tolerance but I'm sure that some have been done for less than that?

I've noticed that my speedo on my 03 WRX under-reads slightly in comparison to the GPS reading.....around 3-4mph under.

Dave
No speedo should under read ! GPS should be the one under reading compared to the speedo in the car .....

If the GPS showed 56 in the 50 when you were zapped then you should ..... just .... be OK. ACPO guidelines are 10% +2 making it 57 and above that gets a ticket. Thats if the force concernced are going by the guidelines as some don't ! Best of luck .....
Old 26 October 2006, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by John57
No speedo should under read !
Sorry John.....post edited.....it's the other way around as you say!

It's late and it's been a long day!

Dave
Old 26 October 2006, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by John57
If the GPS showed 56 in the 50 when you were zapped then you should ..... just .... be OK. ACPO guidelines are 10% +2 making it 57 and above that gets a ticket. Thats if the force concernced are going by the guidelines as some don't ! Best of luck .....
Not to put a downer on things, but i have 3 points for doing 56 in a 50mph zone... caught by a mobile camera about 3yrs ago.
Old 26 October 2006, 10:12 PM
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And if it's a civilian manned scamera van, who knows what they are set at!

I notice on pistonheads.com there's details of a case where these civilian manned scamera vans are now being questioned regarding their legality....worth watching
Old 26 October 2006, 10:18 PM
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I'm sure this 10% + 2 thing stopped when my Dad was a traffic cop, and that was about 5 years ago.

I got done last year doing 34mph in a 30.
Old 26 October 2006, 10:25 PM
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the 10% +2 is a guideline not a rule
Old 26 October 2006, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Mad Scientist
I'm sure this 10% + 2 thing stopped when my Dad was a traffic cop, and that was about 5 years ago.

I got done last year doing 34mph in a 30.

The exact same thing happened to me by one of them dicks in a van who parks up on the grass with a little black tripod camera. This was in 2003 btw.
Old 27 October 2006, 12:07 AM
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The 10%+2 is as mentioned a guideline. Some people follow it, some set the trigger point higher, some set it lower. At 56 in a 50 there's a reasonably good chance you'll have got away with it, but no certainty. I'm afraid the only way to find out is to watch the post for a couple of weeks and hope!

FWIW, I have once come into sight of a similar van in a 50 with nearly 60 on the speedo (so perhaps a couple of mph less than you), and similarly once or twice at about 80 indicated on a motorway (in mine, probably a genuine 74) and never heard anything.
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10% + 3mph i have been told by police officers.
Old 27 October 2006, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by GazTheHat
10% + 3mph i have been told by police officers.
my mates a copper and i can second this
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