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Old 02 October 2000, 05:11 PM
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Which is better for price and performance ?
And does any one know where to get them cheep ?
225 45 17 For an s3.

Thanks for your help

(A serious thread) thx
Old 02 October 2000, 05:13 PM
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How about the Audi Proud Owners website??
Old 02 October 2000, 05:21 PM
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ummmmm no thanks, and dont suggest a vauxhall site , Ive been there and their cars dont handle any way, apart from the cav sri which is supposed to out handle trains .
Old 02 October 2000, 05:43 PM
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S-02s are the grippiest (but only just)...

Toyo's give slightly more limit feel (but only just)...

Depends what you want. But for god's sake don't mix!

Try Tyres Northampton 01604 588599

Cheers

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Old 02 October 2000, 05:45 PM
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Thanks Simon ,Ill try that number.
Old 02 October 2000, 07:35 PM
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Well... On MY Cavalier, I had a different tyre on each corner. A mate noticed that it had one with a lower profile on the front passenger corner than all the rest ! - perhaps that's why I never was so impressed with the Cavaliers legendary nay fabled handling

My tyre dealing friend tells me that TOYOs are marketed as a 'budget' tyre. I have been trying to get some, but he thinks he may be able to get hold of a set of SO2's or F1s at an 'unrepeatable price' - fingers crossed (- came joint top in some car mag survey mentioned earlier on the BBS)

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Old 02 October 2000, 07:48 PM
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Bought four Toyo's today, everybody around where I live wanted £120-130 per tyre, in the end got all four for £395. Valves and balancing inc. Not bad me thinks


Dan
Old 02 October 2000, 08:52 PM
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I've tried both, and I don't think there's a lot in it (except price).

My experience of them is probably similar to Simon's. If anything though, I rather prefered the T1-S's as they seem to be a little more progressive, giving you a little more warning when they're losing grip, Whereas the S02's just let go. It's all personal preference at the end of the day.

I've tried F1's on several cars, and quite frankly they are the worst tyres I've ever used, bar none. Yet others swear by them (I just swore at them).

Go figure!?

Josh

Whatever you decide on Tyres Northampton are definately worth calling. Good bunch, good prices.
Old 02 October 2000, 09:58 PM
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Had SO2's on my old Cav. Didn't notice them just give up. I found them to have a very progressive slide into understeer. (very controllable, just ease of the power and collected it.) And at the 'Ring they layed very nice black marks on the tarmac. Considering they temperature they got to - ambient 30c track hotter. They did not rip themselves apart.

Maybe this changes as you go up in rim sizes.
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Ive got a set of SO2s on the car at the moment. They cost me £300 for two, I was very impressed with them but I found they wear very quickly so I put them at the back to try and reduce wear> Later then I fitted at the front a set of marshalls...........OH MY GOD....It has to be the worst tyre I have ever seen, used etc . A friend has toyos and thinks there amazing hense thread. 4 toyos or S02 still uusure


SO FAR>

S02===== money money money

T1-s ??????



Old 02 October 2000, 11:03 PM
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I run T1-S's on mt Scoob and they strike a good balance between ride quality and life and value. Better than S02's in this respect.

Matt
Old 02 October 2000, 11:23 PM
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I bought 4 SO2s (plus 17inch wheels) from the aforementioned Tyres Northampton on Saturday and I am VERY pleased with them. Superb grip, sharp turn in and I still have good ride quality. Not sure about the life expectancy as only had them on a couple of days. They also remove most of the tram lining that I used to get with OE tyres.

I recommend Tyres Northampton too, great enthusiastic bunch that know there Impreza's from their Cav SRi's!. Also met Stef there which was good, great bloke (THE most enthusiastic Impreza owner I have ever met!!!) and he kindly let me have a nosey at his car - cheers Stef
Old 03 October 2000, 03:43 PM
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thank you for that number Simon.

I tryed them and they were ver help full. The man I spoke to knew exactly what he was taking about, plus they have stock of what I want (so2)

thanks again
Old 03 October 2000, 03:48 PM
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Halfords are doing a special deal again with S-02's

four for the price of three.

£375 for four in other words

NeilR
Old 03 October 2000, 03:50 PM
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Old 03 October 2000, 04:00 PM
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I used T1-S on the Mondeo for 11,000 miles - loads of grip, but wear very fast. They also gave big tramlining problems as they wore, and virtually no wet grip (a couple of scary slides, completely sideways) when they still had over 2.5mm of tread.

I swapped back to front at 8000 miles, then changed them all for Goodyear F1 a few weeks back. The Goodyears seem like a much harder compound when cold, but heat up quickly, thereby increasing grip. I'm really quite impressed with them so far (3000m), especially the fact that they seem almost unmarked, and obviously are wearing much more slowly than the T1-S, with only a marginal (if any) reduction in grip.

I appreciate that I give my tyres a hard time, but I drive in a consistently, ahem, 'spirited' manner, and have never managed to totally wear out tyres so fast as I did with the Toyos. They were grippy enough, but only maintained peak performance for 6-7000 miles, which really isn't enough for me.

They may make sense for a car like the Impreza (lighter, all wheels driven) but for a heavier car, they seem just too soft.


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Old 03 October 2000, 07:13 PM
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Recently fitted a set of S0-2s and am very impressed. Not tried T1-S.

As for prices, got mine from Micheldever.
£425.
They also quoted £400 for P-zero, £370 for F1.
They don't do Toyos, but I found that £370 is about the goig rate.
All prices are all in for a set of 4.

Jon

Old 03 October 2000, 08:33 PM
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I can't make up my mind about the Toyo's. I have T1-S on the front only (for about 6 months). Their dry grip is excellent and most of the time wet grip is good. But, every now and then, particularly on damp roads they are scarily poor. Suddenly the front wheels can lose all grip in surprisingly slow corners and I can't always predict when it will happen. I don't its got anything to do with the back tyres being a different type. I think I might try a different tyre next time.

D.
Old 04 October 2000, 10:13 AM
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NeilR:

Phoned my local Halfords to enquire about the Bridgestone offer. It's still on, so they quoted me for 4 S-02 PPs in 215/40x17 ...

£659.20 fitted!!!!!!!!!

Ouch ... and thats with 25% off. Have they made some kind of mistake as that works our about £220 each!

Danny Fisher:

Can I ask where you bought your Toyos, and what size they were? Sounds like a better deal to me!

Cheers.

Andrew
Old 04 October 2000, 11:21 AM
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So nobody likes Yokohama's then??

I have been using A520's on amixture of cars aver the last 4 years and not found anything better.. And a brief fling with Falkens.. Grrrr, lasted but poor grip esp. in the wet.


Got a set of 4 205/40 17 A520's for 300 quid recently...

Just a thought

Scott!
Old 04 October 2000, 11:29 AM
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I had A520s on my old pug 205 there not a bad trye but I found they wear very fast, tend to understeer and are not very good in the wet...just my opinion
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