Forester S/Tb
01 June 2005, 09:59 AM
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Forester S/Tb
We've been looking to replace our current '98 Forester with a newer one for some time; but whilst there's several automatics up for sale we want a manual. Anyone know of any for sale?
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01 June 2005, 01:03 PM
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http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthrea...light=FORESTER
What box is Gavnik's car.?
I know it's not newer but if its a manual?
What box is Gavnik's car.?
I know it's not newer but if its a manual?
01 June 2005, 01:48 PM
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Gavnik's car is an auto.
I looked into his car before I bought mine, but the insurance was the thing that put me off a JDM car!
£450 UK with modifications, or £750 JDM without modifications.
I looked into his car before I bought mine, but the insurance was the thing that put me off a JDM car!
£450 UK with modifications, or £750 JDM without modifications.
01 June 2005, 02:07 PM
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But Andy, It takes more than £300 to mod from 170 BHP to 240 BHP 
ps How's the nipper?
ps How's the nipper?
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01 June 2005, 02:47 PM
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Nipper is fine, although she isn't really sleeping, which means Caroline and I aren't sleeping either!!
The car is a 'mum bus', so 174bhp is fine!
Depends what mods! Wheels and ARB would have to be done on both, so they don't count! 
Bleed valve, air filter and TD04 can be had for less than £300. 
The less I spend on the Forester, the easier I can justify replacing my daily hack (Ford Ka) with something more interesting/faster!
When's the wedding? How are the plans going? (Probably the most stressful time of my life a few weeks before my wedding, although we knew the day would go fine due the preparation and stressing before hand!)
The car is a 'mum bus', so 174bhp is fine!
Depends what mods! Wheels and ARB would have to be done on both, so they don't count! Bleed valve, air filter and TD04 can be had for less than £300. The less I spend on the Forester, the easier I can justify replacing my daily hack (Ford Ka) with something more interesting/faster!
When's the wedding? How are the plans going? (Probably the most stressful time of my life a few weeks before my wedding, although we knew the day would go fine due the preparation and stressing before hand!)
01 June 2005, 03:11 PM
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It's nice to see that amongst the Forester owners, the tone of postings is so much more sociable.....however, this is not finding Fifi a newer car....somebody must want to sell one...please
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01 June 2005, 03:27 PM
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obi,
Have you tried www.autotrader.co.uk ?
there's got to be some in there.
Andy
the wedding is on 18th and we are currently experiencing the calm before the storm.
The madness is due any minute now!!!
Have you tried www.autotrader.co.uk ?
there's got to be some in there.
Andy
the wedding is on 18th and we are currently experiencing the calm before the storm.
The madness is due any minute now!!!
01 June 2005, 11:29 PM
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We'll spend up to about 12k, or I may sell one of the Legacy's and spend a bit more. I been looking in the normal sources..Autotrader, E & Mart, Fish4it and Findit but the manuals tend to be '96-98's. There is one later model on Autotrader being sold by a 'Forester' specialist but I went to see it and wouldn't have touched it with are barge pole.
03 June 2005, 09:00 AM
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Yes, once you've owned an import it hard to consider a UK car. It's not just the extra bhp but all the other little extras...climate control, folding wing mirrors etc. I've started to look at the import route. As I understand it, at the moment there isn't a model report for jdm S/Tb's and XT's; only that someone (Litchfields?) has one for the STI. I've checked on some of the japanese auctions sites, a couple give indications of recent selling prices, and grade 4.5 S/Tb's are reaching £2-3k, XT's 5-7K and STI's about 12k. Add on 5-7k to get it into the country and on the road. If the report's existed I be quite happy going that route using one of the better known importers to source the vehicle. As I type this and thinking of the STI, I wonder if our '98 is too early to accept a 2.5 block....mmmm...what else...loom, ecu???
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03 June 2005, 10:33 AM
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Palatine,
Have you done this or do you have knowledge of what's necessary. I assume that to get the best from this conversion just changing the block isn't sufficient. Surely you need to re-map the ECU and I thought that the pre '99 units were a bit crude for this.
Have you done this or do you have knowledge of what's necessary. I assume that to get the best from this conversion just changing the block isn't sufficient. Surely you need to re-map the ECU and I thought that the pre '99 units were a bit crude for this.
03 June 2005, 03:40 PM
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what is your power (BHP-Torque) goal?
That determines if the gearbox will hold also your driving style
2.5 bottom ends are about £1700 but I have heard of cheaper then Ecu remap or Powerfc remap which is what I would go for but its a personal preferance (sp) thing
That determines if the gearbox will hold also your driving style
2.5 bottom ends are about £1700 but I have heard of cheaper then Ecu remap or Powerfc remap which is what I would go for but its a personal preferance (sp) thing
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I'd factor somewhere in the region of £4-5k to get the engine in (if you're not doing the work yourself)
You will need to consider which turbo you want to compliment the engine, injector sizes as the standard ones are probably too small, replacement ECU and associated mapping costs, uprated clutch and gearbox (depending on power and how you use/abuse the car), uprated fuel pumps, uprated oil pump, fuel regulators, etc.
Also things like brakes if you still have the standard 2-pots, larger wheels, larger rear ARB, drop links, strut braces, maybe lowered springs, etc will all help the handling.
You will need to consider which turbo you want to compliment the engine, injector sizes as the standard ones are probably too small, replacement ECU and associated mapping costs, uprated clutch and gearbox (depending on power and how you use/abuse the car), uprated fuel pumps, uprated oil pump, fuel regulators, etc.
Also things like brakes if you still have the standard 2-pots, larger wheels, larger rear ARB, drop links, strut braces, maybe lowered springs, etc will all help the handling.
03 June 2005, 03:59 PM
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03 June 2005, 11:14 PM
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OK, this is becoming interesting. The car is Fifi's daily drive ( no slouch behind the wheel) and is used 10-15 times a year to drive to the alpine regions. During these trips I'd tend to cruise down at about 120 then play on the the 'ups & downs'; so torque is more important that bhp. Car has the TD04 turbo as standard and the ARB, tyres etc have been done. Any idea of what could be achieved with just a bottom end, Apexi (or similar) and only upgrading those items required to match the turbo
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I believe Dyney has a relatively standard 2.5 block, making over 350bhp with a hybrid TD05. I don't believe the engine has been strengthen with uprate pistons, etc, but I could be wrong.
If that's the case, use a standard 2.5 bottom end, maybe a TD05 converted to front entry (as the TD04 may be too small), some 440/550cc injectors and then an ECU and mapping.
What modifications are on the car at the moment? De-cat and filter? Maybe worth looking at doing the ECU first and optimising your current set up. You should be able to get about 280, maybe 300bhp running on UK fuel with smoother power delivery. It might give you the umpth you want for now, then you can plan the 2.5 at your lesuire.
If that's the case, use a standard 2.5 bottom end, maybe a TD05 converted to front entry (as the TD04 may be too small), some 440/550cc injectors and then an ECU and mapping.
What modifications are on the car at the moment? De-cat and filter? Maybe worth looking at doing the ECU first and optimising your current set up. You should be able to get about 280, maybe 300bhp running on UK fuel with smoother power delivery. It might give you the umpth you want for now, then you can plan the 2.5 at your lesuire.
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