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Old 19 September 2003, 08:42 AM
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when you can get this on Ebay!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2432590698&category=10 424

"This is a SUBARU performance modification. It is extremely easy to fit following the fully illustrated step-by-step instructions that are included.
The modification is a resistor chip that increases the power of your engine by altering the air/fuel ratio and ignition timing advance.
It will modify any standard ECU sysem by telling it that the incoming air in the intake system is cold, this advances the ignition to compensate producing more power.It does this by sending a message to the IAT (Intake Air Temperature) or O2 sensor of the engine.
This is a generic modification that will cost a fraction of what the big name companies want to charge for exactly the same product.
This will fit most fuel injected engines (non-turbo) from 1989 onwards and will add UP TO 20 BHP depending on engine size and other factors.
It is so simple to fit it can be done in less than 10 minutes and can be removed just as easily if the need arises. No tools are needed, nor is there any need to cut or solder the car's wiring at all and no damage will be made to your engine in any way.
The performance difference you will see with this modification is unbelievable!!!!! The engine is more responsive, more powerful, it will accelerate faster and have a higher top speed!
This modification will definitely increase the the power of your engine BY UP TO 20 BHP!!
IT WILL NOT DISAPPOINT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

The bid starts at £0.01.

I tried to paste the whole page but couldn't get it to work, or make the link clicky.



Old 19 September 2003, 08:44 AM
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Yes,

And you can then say goodbye to your warranty, and probably your engine.

Edited to say - and it's only for non-turbos

[Edited by SiHethers - 9/19/2003 8:45:38 AM]
Old 19 September 2003, 08:44 AM
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Dont go near this with a barge poll - I wouldnt touch it with yours and all that!!!

Did you read the bit, "This will fit most fuel injected engines (non-turbo) from 1989 onwards and will add UP TO 20 BHP depending on engine size and other factors"

That said I wouldnt even put it on an NA car let alone a turbo and even more let alone on a Scoob. Why the **** do you want a device that fools the MAF or other sensors - it will end in tears IMO!
Old 19 September 2003, 08:49 AM
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I must put more humour in my posts.

They are advertising in the Subaru section on Ebay but state that it is for 'fuel injected normally aspirated engines'

the kid in work with the XR2i may be interested though!

Edited coz I didn't read my own post properly!

[Edited by 3times - 9/19/2003 8:50:43 AM]
Old 19 September 2003, 09:03 AM
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3times - you'll never make it as a comic - cant see ANY humour in your post.

Could be a nice little earner though - buy a huge stock then start selling them via a Nova bbs!

[Edited by Scooby96 - 9/19/2003 9:09:07 AM]
Old 19 September 2003, 10:17 AM
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it's a 1 pence resistor that you could get from Maplins.

It's a scam, and has been mentioned before on here somewhere.

Old 19 September 2003, 10:23 AM
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Its not a scam.
I used to work at a main dealer franchise and we were once told by the factory to fit this tiny resistor to the tempsensor 2. for flat spotting.
The o2 sensor takes care of the rest, and this system does work, only downside is a little less mpg.
Old 19 September 2003, 11:47 AM
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Heaven forbid that there may actually be a mod out there that doesn't cost a fortune AND does what it claims.

20bhp increase for less than £20 PAH it MUST be crap.
I know, we'll all throw £1500 + at Prodrive and if the expected change doesn't occour, we'll blame the other car components
Let's slag these little wonders off to make us feel better for being ripped off in the first place!

I remember the DAWES recieving the same type of welcome on this BBS until Mr Banks declared them "safe" if used properly. Now most scoobs run them. Fancy that a performance bargain for £30. How dare they

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Old 19 September 2003, 11:52 AM
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it's a scam in that these people are charging lets say £10 for a 1p resistor, dressed up in flowery language as some sort of technical device. It's not, its a tiny cheap electrical component.

how is that NOT a scam?
Old 19 September 2003, 11:56 AM
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i have a car i am willing to try this on, someone tell me what resistance the resistor needs to be and where to fit it and I'll try and let you know the results.
Old 19 September 2003, 12:02 PM
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I wouldnt say that the PPP is the same thing at all:

"This is a generic modification that will cost a fraction of what the big name companies want to charge for exactly the same product."

Isnt the PPP upgrade a completely new ecu rather than a resistor?

Look at the % markup = C O N
Old 19 September 2003, 12:36 PM
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Enough humour in your original post mate. I was laughing after about the opening sentance of the script.
Old 19 September 2003, 01:32 PM
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Please don't put it on an XR2i - not another smokey, bore-washed Fiesta in the world. One's enough, and that's mine :P

All this does is cause indiscriminate overfuelling through the rev-range. Plenty of other ways to do that, and bar a re-map, none of them are worth a penny.

Enthusiastic advertising though
Old 19 September 2003, 02:43 PM
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I used to work at a main dealer franchise and we were once told by the factory to fit this tiny resistor to the tempsensor 2. for flat spotting.
Blimey. Do you want to share the name of this franchise so the rest of us can avoid them?
Old 19 September 2003, 03:05 PM
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The original post was sooooo funny how could anyone read it as serious!!!

I particularly like this...

The performance difference you will see with this modification is unbelievable!!!!!
Yeah, unbelievably CR@P!!!

For what its worth 3times, i could see the tongue in cheek approach and humour

Old 19 September 2003, 03:39 PM
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It would also seem that he has developed equipment for a whole range of cars (maybe he has a maplin dicount )

Check this out !

http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=dk989&i nclude=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50
Old 19 September 2003, 03:41 PM
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Listen, if the factory gives the all clear to fit the resistor then I think they know a little more than you!
Old 19 September 2003, 03:48 PM
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oh dear... if you did this on a vtec car it would never vtec as the variable cam system does not function unless the car is warm.
Old 19 September 2003, 07:56 PM
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>from 1989 onwards
Its not designed for an Impreza then since these werent built until 1994

Give it a miss, it sounds a load of tripe.
Old 19 September 2003, 09:10 PM
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Isnt 1994 onwards from 1989

Maybe it would suit a sport

MMmmmmm an extra 20bhp, imagine the performance, that with clear indicators and gold wheels. Unbeatable!!!!
Old 19 September 2003, 09:31 PM
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WISH I could find the original threads...

At least no one else seems to have taken the bait

20 bhp FORD performance mod £1.00
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17 hours, 50 mins +
20 bhp AUDI performance mod £1.00
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17 hours, 52 mins +
20 bhp BMW performance mod £1.00
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17 hours, 53 mins +
20 bhp VOLVO performance mod £1.00
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17 hours, 53 mins +
20 bhp SUBARU performance mod £1.00
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17 hours, 54 mins +
20 bhp ROVER performance mod £1.00


[Edited by -=Buzz=- - 9/19/2003 9:36:57 PM]
Old 19 September 2003, 10:04 PM
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20bhp on a N/A engine with no other bits (filter/exhaust) I don't think so.
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