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Old 06 July 2014, 12:35 PM
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Own a blob wrx and it's running a impressive 333bhp and 340ft lbs, now I've come to the point where if I want more power I'm going to need a 6speed box and much better brakes, but I've spent far to much money on my car to sell it and buy a Sti so I've decided to keep it and go to the next stage, I'm considering a 2.1 stroker now this isn't a think that's going to happen now it's going to be over the next 2years or so, I have someone to build it for me with a good reputation just need to know what I'm going to need and roughly the price ? What turbo to use and is it worth it ? Would like to make over 400bhp

Before people mention upgrading brakes and suspension this will all be done by end of the year

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It depends on what power you are aiming for as too what the cost is.
But starting with a wrx is going to cost loads more as you are a £1500 to £2k gearbox down already.
If 400 is your aim an sti will get this with a simple turbo injectors and remap.

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I understand this but I'm going to have to sell mine and save up 4k for a Sti I want been looking for a while now and I just wanted to be abit different and go for a stroker
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Originally Posted by Mustoe91
I understand this but I'm going to have to sell mine and save up 4k for a Sti I want been looking for a while now and I just wanted to be abit different and go for a stroker
Best advice is ask someone who made the mistake your heading for.
Poor shreksta springs to mind,spent loads and ultimately gave up. Poor chap had no luck at all either.
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hey sam

for the block you will need

-a good semi-closed deck block (paul can source these if he has none in stock)

-a 2.5 crank

-rods and pistons (stroker)

-acl big and main bearings

-gasket set

-arp head studs 11mm will be fine for 400bhp

-new oil pump and modine

-full timing kit with water pump

-rocker cover gasket set

-head gaskets-paul uses rcm ones

head wise its your choice

avcs would be ideal but paul would hav to make a custom loom for you and you will need at least an ecu from an sti

or as i mentioned to you before you could use a set of version 5/6/p1 heads and get them re-freshed-paul can do this aswell
and it means you can retain your ecu

turbo wise......

-sc38
-sc40
-sc42
-rcm400
-garrett gt28

to name a few

speak with advanced automotives for all your machining work and possible stroker kit

http://www.advancedautomotives.com/b...vcs-1407-p.asp
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Originally Posted by Emmaroids
Best advice is ask someone who made the mistake your heading for.
Poor shreksta springs to mind,spent loads and ultimately gave up. Poor chap had no luck at all either.
i never had a stroker built for my car
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Originally Posted by the shreksta
hey sam

for the block you will need

-a good semi-closed deck block (paul can source these if he has none in stock)

-a 2.5 crank

-rods and pistons (stroker)

-acl big and main bearings

-gasket set

-arp head studs 11mm will be fine for 400bhp

-new oil pump and modine

-full timing kit with water pump

-rocker cover gasket set

-head gaskets-paul uses rcm ones

head wise its your choice

avcs would be ideal but paul would hav to make a custom loom for you and you will need at least an ecu from an sti

or as i mentioned to you before you could use a set of version 5/6/p1 heads and get them re-freshed-paul can do this aswell
and it means you can retain your ecu

turbo wise......

-sc38
-sc40
-sc42
-rcm400
-garrett gt28

to name a few

speak with advanced automotives for all your machining work and possible stroker kit

http://www.advancedautomotives.com/b...vcs-1407-p.asp
Alright Matt just wanted a whole complete list regarding are chat yesterday
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Originally Posted by the shreksta
i never had a stroker built for my car
I know I meant the cost and bad luck you had trying to convert a wrx to sti or better spec
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Originally Posted by Mustoe91
Alright Matt just wanted a whole complete list regarding are chat yesterday
no worries mate,that stroker kit i linked you-paul has just built one using that kit for a local lad around here
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This is where I am at the moment. I had a mini bus hit my wrx in a car park (just body damage) so added to the insurance payout and went to town abit on the body work. Also added bigger top mount, injectors, turbo and pump. Went for a remap and threw a big end bearing. I'd gone too far along to scrap/break the car and start again, so heading down the re-build to 2.1 with some other tweeks going towards a rapid and useable road car (for figures, guessing at 380-400 ish).
I know what folks say about starting with an STi and I agree, if its possible. I couldn't afford that kind of money at 1 go, so want wrx and modded as funds allowed.
just my twopeneth
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I've spent far to much time and money on mine to sell up and buy a Sti and what with a one month old child don't think missus will be happy so that's why I have decided to attempt to do a 2.1 stroker
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Originally Posted by Mustoe91
I've spent far to much time and money on mine to sell up and buy a Sti and what with a one month old child don't think missus will be happy so that's why I have decided to attempt to do a 2.1 stroker
order the parts in stages from the states like i was gonna do and still might dependant on which scooby i get next

loads cheaper

http://realstreetperformance.com/Wel...subaru+stroker

a crank from trev@ real speed is around £150-£200 cheaper than a crank over here and that includes shipping

piston/rod package works out a little more expensive than a set of pistons over here
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Originally Posted by the shreksta
order the parts in stages from the states like i was gonna do and still might dependant on which scooby i get next

loads cheaper

http://realstreetperformance.com/Wel...subaru+stroker

a crank from trev@ real speed is around £150-£200 cheaper than a crank over here and that includes shipping

piston/rod package works out a little more expensive than a set of pistons over here
You know irl be texting/ringing you anyway mate for advice lol
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Originally Posted by Mustoe91
You know irl be texting/ringing you anyway mate for advice lol
no worries
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Don't waste your time. if all you are after is 400 bhp.
Don't put yourself through the financial stupidity and heartache of building it from a wrx.

Sell up and buy an sti as the gearbox and brakes are already there and the engines good for 450bhp.
All you need to do is get a new turbo injectors and remap.
Added to that you can even sell on the vf35 and pinks.
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I hate to admit it but TT or FT is right.
I have spent 1000's on my wrx.A 2.1 stroker is next also.
For what i have spent i could have bought a decent spec c.
Read my thread in projects .
The problem is when you start modifying a wrx you reach a point of no return,you either sell up and lose loads of £££££ or see it through.
I chose the second option.
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Originally Posted by Dave Y
I hate to admit it but TT or FT is right.
I have spent 1000's on my wrx.A 2.1 stroker is next also.
For what i have spent i could have bought a decent spec c.
Read my thread in projects .
The problem is when you start modifying a wrx you reach a point of no return,you either sell up and lose loads of £££££ or see it through.
I chose the second option.
I know I should stop spending money on it and sell up and move on but like you ive spent so much money on it and I've got the bug and I just can't seem to stop myself, I've got my car to the standard I want it performance wise and looks (bar a Sti spoiler) so I think over the next year i will have a go at a stroker and see it through
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You say in first post you haven't done brakes and suspension. So you haven't done much other than cosmetic mods which is a drop in the ocean compared to buying sti gearboxes and engine builds.
Price up getting a wrx to 400 bhp and then do the same for an sti.
It makes no sense whatsoever upgrading the wrx.
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Don't save the receipts.You will lose count and it wont hurt so much.����
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400bhp you will need engine, gearbox, clutch, injectors, fuel pump, turbo, brakes and suspension. Easy 7-9k depending on what you get in the used market
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Originally Posted by Emmaroids
You say in first post you haven't done brakes and suspension. So you haven't done much other than cosmetic mods which is a drop in the ocean compared to buying sti gearboxes and engine builds.
Price up getting a wrx to 400 bhp and then do the same for an sti.
It makes no sense whatsoever upgrading the wrx.
Brakes will be done in next few months and when I say suspension it's been lowered 30mm on eibach springs, I'm happy with my wrx and I'm not getting into a debate of how Sti is a better car I know it's a better car I've got what I came for which was advice on what I'd need
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