Johnny E

Thinking of getting one for some track use anyone had one of these

Fancy a 106 Rallye also

The Chief

I know nothing about either but here are my thoughts (for what they're worth)

Rallyes command a premium, If your tracking it thus stripping it out you might be better off getting a normal GTi6 and stripping it out and the money you save spend it on better brakes, track tyres and suspension and maybe some seats.

106 rallyes also command extra as they are so popular with people using them as trackcars, some spend a small fortune on them modifying them and putting better engines in.

A 306 is pretty light anyway and stripped out will be i guess be close to 1100kg coupled with a 165bhp or so engine is going to make it a great track car.

If you can get a 306 Rallye for the right money then fair enough but the decent ones i've seen tend to be expensive.

SRSport

Just been reading a review on both the GTi6 and Rallye in Performance car magazine June 2008 who sing their praises. I've always admired these but never bought one unfortunately. You may be able to get a back copy ordered.

If I had some disposable income Id be giving it some serious thought but a new baby has put and end to that.

beef-on-the-bone

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still miss my 106 rallye s2 six years on, cracking little cars!!! can't believe i went for a civic, d'oh!!!

mine was completely standard and capable of keeping up with much faster cars on the roads down here, they're like riding a 2 stroke bike, just keep it fizzing!!!

ScoobyDoo555

OK - not quite the same, but I've got a 306 GTi6 Phase 1. This is the lightest version of the GTi6s, as the later phases (2 & 3) just got heavier with the extra toys.

Yes, the Rallye commands a premium (I don't think it's actually worth it).

Mine (well, Wifey's tbh!! ) pushes out 176bhp, and is pretty darn quick. The 6-speed box is great, and imho, one of the best, allowing selection of the right rev-range all the time.

The downside is that the turning circle is RUBBISH as the box is quite big!!
The engine is also a sod to work on, especially the exhaust manifold, as there is NO room to work on it unless you've got access to a ramp. I found out the hard way when the radiator went, taking out the head gasket.

Apart from that, I can only say that the car handles like a go-kart, putting the Scoob to shame, imho. Not being a troll, it just IS. The grip isn't as good, but the handling is amazing.
Driving mine back from the garage over the 200 mile trip, getting off the motorway onto the A49, I had a grin like I had a coat-hanger trapped in my mouth!!!

The only other down side is the heater matrix (a known issue), when it goes (not IF), it's an easy, but long job to do (a good 14 hours), and cheap (heater matrix is about £40).

As a track car, well, Wifey's been running hers as a daily driver for the last 2 years, and aside from the head, it's been rock solid. She's getting a new car next year (Golf GT-TDi), and the 306 will be becoming my weekend toy

HIGHLY recommended,

Dan

Johnny E

Thanks for the replys

warrtster

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Have a look on here...
306gti6

I've had 2 106 GTis and a 106 Rallye ph1, miss them all, great fun to drive

bootsy

i've just had my 106 rallye s1 written off go get one mate

subevo

how did you get that horse power. standard is 167.isnt it hard to get more out of it?

driveeminpushemout

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My last car was a 306 rallye that I did quite alot to. Awesome on the track, particularly in the wet. Soooo predictable. Tbh I was quite gutted when I bought my then standard sti that It didn't handle as well as the 306!
The only reason I got rid of it was that I'd done quite alot to it and there just wasn't enough power for the chassis, and I'd have had to spend about £4k to supercharge it, so gave up and bought a subaru!

ScoobyDoo555

Sounds about right IIRC, it's about 167bhp. However, whack an induction kit on it with a S/Steel system, and you'll easily get 9 bhp and higher. Plus with Wifey's car, it's quite loose now!!LOL!! (Had the same with my 1st Scoob - the rolling road presented some very nice results on big miles! )

To get BIG power is VERY expensive due to it being NA.

Dan

S3TH

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Ive had both an S1 and S2 106 Rallye. Awesome drivers cars, especially the the S1 with the very short gearing and it made max power at 7200rpm. Coupled with an induction kit and straight through exhaust was a sweet sounding car with a very lively, revvy engine and superb steering and handling. The S2 wasnt as much fun but had better brakes and talling gearing better for cruising. Both cars caught me out a couple of times with lift off oversteer lol.

Id highly reccomend that everyone tries one of these at least once.

The Zohan

Got a mate selling a 306 2.0 xsi 1998 vintage for around 450.00 if this is of any interest - he will negociate on price.

TonyBurns

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My first phase 2 (owned 2 phase 2's and 1 phase 1 ) pushed out 177bhp (rolling roaded) in standard form, felt quicker than the phase 1 car plus the gearbox was smoother

Note that you can have several different problems with these, mainly electrical (door looms go, about 145 quid each to replace, part is 75 quid dealer only), rear beams on ragged cars go and seriously effects the handling, about 4-600 quid for a new one fitted, engines are good if you keep to the service intervals, 9k on phase 1 and early phase 2, 10/20k on late 98-01 cars though not advisable to go that far.
Cambelts HAVE to be done every 3 year/36k as they are known to break before this, leave any ragged/unserviced/crashed examples well alone.
Sold my last one with 95k on the clock to a lad from scotland (400 mile one way trip) and got the asking price for her, she was a very good example exept the paint had laqueur peel but full sh etc.
Parts are also quite reasonable for these

Tony

Rich D

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I've owned both a Rallye and then a GTi-6 (phase 1), they are superb cars and lately I've been thinking about getting another as a toy

both mine also made more than the quoted 167bhp on the rollers, with only an aftermarkter air filter in both cases

driveeminpushemout

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Also if you are chaning the cambelt on a car that's not already a 'tapper' it's worth upgrading to the later longer cambelt conversion as these are less likely to snap