Audi A3 Sportback 170 Sline S-tronic
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Audi A3 170 Sline Quattro
Off to test one of these tomorrow, any views, especially S-tronic vs Quattro??
Last edited by MattW; 16 October 2006 at 10:51 AM. Reason: Title change
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Didn't like the Stronic, will go manual with quattro. 3 door looks better than 5 door so may go 3 door even with 2 kids as most of the time it is just me. We have a 5 door 54 plate Golf as well for family use.
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Spent all day with a mate in a 2.0T S-Line Quattro manual yesterday.
25k car we were in - the biggest overpriced POS I've been in for a long time.
Not particularly quick, though free'd up through the day (only had 300 miles on it to start with and 1k by the end!). Its not bad at all on A roads, but thoroughly tiring on the motorway, such a horrible choppy ride, the damping is awful. The 4wd is utterly pointless, we turned off the ESP, dialed in 5k rpm and sidestepped the clutch - it bogged down and went nowhere
Gawd knows who would by one over a Golf GTi (which is far cheaper) but whoever does is a fool!
25k car we were in - the biggest overpriced POS I've been in for a long time.
Not particularly quick, though free'd up through the day (only had 300 miles on it to start with and 1k by the end!). Its not bad at all on A roads, but thoroughly tiring on the motorway, such a horrible choppy ride, the damping is awful. The 4wd is utterly pointless, we turned off the ESP, dialed in 5k rpm and sidestepped the clutch - it bogged down and went nowhere
Gawd knows who would by one over a Golf GTi (which is far cheaper) but whoever does is a fool!
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Originally Posted by ScoobyJawa
Spent all day with a mate in a 2.0T S-Line Quattro manual yesterday.
25k car we were in - the biggest overpriced POS I've been in for a long time.
Not particularly quick, though free'd up through the day (only had 300 miles on it to start with and 1k by the end!). Its not bad at all on A roads, but thoroughly tiring on the motorway, such a horrible choppy ride, the damping is awful. The 4wd is utterly pointless, we turned off the ESP, dialed in 5k rpm and sidestepped the clutch - it bogged down and went nowhere
Gawd knows who would by one over a Golf GTi (which is far cheaper) but whoever does is a fool!
25k car we were in - the biggest overpriced POS I've been in for a long time.
Not particularly quick, though free'd up through the day (only had 300 miles on it to start with and 1k by the end!). Its not bad at all on A roads, but thoroughly tiring on the motorway, such a horrible choppy ride, the damping is awful. The 4wd is utterly pointless, we turned off the ESP, dialed in 5k rpm and sidestepped the clutch - it bogged down and went nowhere
Gawd knows who would by one over a Golf GTi (which is far cheaper) but whoever does is a fool!
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If you do a lot of miles, then a diesel would make sence. Also since the Quattro on the A3 is a halex, it basically FWD most of the time until it experiences slip. If you decide to tune it, the AWD will be able to handle the power increase better than the FWD version, especially if its a diesel.
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Originally Posted by jonc
If you do a lot of miles, then a diesel would make sence. Also since the Quattro on the A3 is a halex, it basically FWD most of the time until it experiences slip. If you decide to tune it, the AWD will be able to handle the power increase better than the FWD version, especially if its a diesel.
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Originally Posted by MattW
3 or 5 door? I'm thinking about the Diesel and as we already have a Golf GT TDi, two would be daft!!
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Originally Posted by spectrum48k
is the Golf GTi available in 4 wheel drive ?
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Originally Posted by ScoobyJawa
This one was the 3 door. Have to say though that the seats were reasonable comfy - had leather, not sure if thats an option but considering the vanity mirror light is I'd imagine so!
A3 SLine 170 Manual Quattro
Audi Exclusive Nappa Leather
Multi function Wheel
Front armrest
Rear armrest
Ipod connection
Bose
Non Smoking pack (nco)
14 spoke 18" alloys (nco)
Xenons
Pearl paint
Elec folding mirrors
Auto Wipers
£25130 as opposed to £27895 list
Will probably drop the Exclusive leather and go with the standard stuff and save myself £750.
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Originally Posted by jonc
You say you don't want another Golf, however, since the A3 is based on the Golf, you are effectively getting another Golf with a differnet bodyshell.
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Originally Posted by MattW
Leather is an option, £750. I had a quote through CSMA for the following:
A3 SLine 170 Manual Quattro
Audi Exclusive Nappa Leather
Multi function Wheel
Front armrest
Rear armrest
Ipod connection
Bose
Non Smoking pack (nco)
14 spoke 18" alloys (nco)
Xenons
Pearl paint
Elec folding mirrors
Auto Wipers
£25130 as opposed to £27895 list
Will probably drop the Exclusive leather and go with the standard stuff and save myself £750.
A3 SLine 170 Manual Quattro
Audi Exclusive Nappa Leather
Multi function Wheel
Front armrest
Rear armrest
Ipod connection
Bose
Non Smoking pack (nco)
14 spoke 18" alloys (nco)
Xenons
Pearl paint
Elec folding mirrors
Auto Wipers
£25130 as opposed to £27895 list
Will probably drop the Exclusive leather and go with the standard stuff and save myself £750.
What else have you test driven?
I was in a similar position - drove the Audi, didn't rate it - damping and steering terrible. Its also expensive.
Bought a 120D Sport in the end. A much better drive, fantastic steering and quicker than the Audi. New 120Ds will have 170 ps to match the VAG lump.
Beemer has a much wider power band as well compared to the VAG engines.
120D M Sport specced as above is £25,920 before discount
Just a though
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Originally Posted by ///\oo/\\\
Matt,
What else have you test driven?
I was in a similar position - drove the Audi, didn't rate it - damping and steering terrible. Its also expensive.
Bought a 120D Sport in the end. A much better drive, fantastic steering and quicker than the Audi. New 120Ds will have 170 ps to match the VAG lump.
Beemer has a much wider power band as well compared to the VAG engines.
120D M Sport specced as above is £25,920 before discount
Just a though
What else have you test driven?
I was in a similar position - drove the Audi, didn't rate it - damping and steering terrible. Its also expensive.
Bought a 120D Sport in the end. A much better drive, fantastic steering and quicker than the Audi. New 120Ds will have 170 ps to match the VAG lump.
Beemer has a much wider power band as well compared to the VAG engines.
120D M Sport specced as above is £25,920 before discount
Just a though
Did you try the Sline? I thought it felt the same as the wife's Golf, the steering can feel a little detached, but then coming from a Subaru I understand it's not going to be point and squirt so to speak.
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Originally Posted by MattW
I just can't get on with the looks though, it's definitely a love it or loathe it style. Price is good, CSMA show £20598 for the basic M Sport.
Did you try the Sline? I thought it felt the same as the wife's Golf, the steering can feel a little detached, but then coming from a Subaru I understand it's not going to be point and squirt so to speak.
Did you try the Sline? I thought it felt the same as the wife's Golf, the steering can feel a little detached, but then coming from a Subaru I understand it's not going to be point and squirt so to speak.
The 1 series is just so much better to drive than the A3. At any speed. The sport is hard suspension wise, but the springs and dampers are very well matched and its not unbearable by any means. M sport is even better and, strangely, a little more compliant.
I used to hate the looks as well, but its better in the flesh, and you come to appreciate the details as you live with it. It has grown on me and I actually prefer it now, especially since Audi went with the gaping mouth look.
In profile, the deeply sculpted sides reflect the light with stunning effect and the build quality is right up there with Audi.
Pictures don't do it justice. Have a go in one, you never know
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Originally Posted by MattW
lol I may try one, I have seen them in the flesh as a friend has one, but he doesn't rate it....lol
I'd be interested to know why though.
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Originally Posted by ///\oo/\\\
Horses for courses
I'd be interested to know why though.
I'd be interested to know why though.
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Originally Posted by MattW
I'll ask, I know one reason was the visibility out of the back. Wasn't that interested as I had discounted it.
Joking!
Never found it a problem myself, and there's always the parking sensors.
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Originally Posted by ///\oo/\\\
Its a BMW, why does he need to see what is behind him?
Joking!
Never found it a problem myself, and there's always the parking sensors.
Joking!
Never found it a problem myself, and there's always the parking sensors.
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