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Old 14 September 2005, 09:40 PM
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I need a bit of help,

I've got £5-£6k to spend on a new weekday car, here are the pre-requisites.

Must be not break down every 200 yards (no itialian cars)

Needs to cover 300 miles without making me feel tired (this is no 1 priority)

Ideally Diesel as I cover big distances

Preferably lots of toys

No older than 5 years

I have shortlisted the new shap Vectra 2.2 DTi and the old shape 406 GLX 2.2 136bhp Diesel.

The only problem is that I am finiding it a little difficult to find many Vectras with low ish miles and the 406 is looking a little dated in the inside compared to the Vectra.

I have driven both in the past, I found the Vectra to be very comfy and less fatiguing that Passats, Mondeo, Laguna, C5. I drove the 406 a few years back and remember it being very good on the motorway too.

So, what are you views guys/gals?
Old 14 September 2005, 09:54 PM
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Depends on what mileage you consider high. I've seen 80-100k mile VW Boras with the PD130 engine in that price range. I've just bought a 40k miler for £7500, it's currently averaging low 50's mpg and goes pretty well (will go better after a remap ) I reckon a PD engine is good for 200,000 miles and the rest of the car is well built too.
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Saab 9-5 just for the seats
Old 14 September 2005, 10:05 PM
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the Bora is too small and I was not too keen on the Passatt, good engine though, shame about the rip off poor sealer service.
Old 14 September 2005, 10:32 PM
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Skoda Octavia?
Old 14 September 2005, 10:43 PM
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Volvo V70 D5

Although I prefer the XC70 for the ride, the seats are gorgeous & loadsa toys...
Old 14 September 2005, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Puff The Magic Wagon!
Volvo V70 D5

Although I prefer the XC70 for the ride, the seats are gorgeous & loadsa toys...
I very much doubt you'll get a V70 D5 for that price but you might get an S60 D5.
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You could get one of the "new shape" A4 Tdi110 from the late 90s for a bit less than that sort of money .... the 110 is an older engine but it is a good 'un, if anything more economical than the PD motors.

Also around £300 to remap it to a reliable 135bhp / 230 ft-lb of torque with Jabba or Revo.

Might be able to get a Mondeo TDCi for that sort of money too.
Old 15 September 2005, 08:49 AM
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How about a Passat pd130. Plenty around at that money and a cracking, often overlooked car.

Matt
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Passat TDi.
Old 15 September 2005, 09:26 AM
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I agree with the TDI Passat. You will be pleasently surprised.
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Can't stand VW's, they are unreliable in my opinion, and I did not find the drive in the passat I hired relaxing. Not a patch on the Vectra.

My Golf GTi (150bhp), needed a new clutch after less than 70k miles and the leccy windows would not work, air bag light kept comming on, bulbs kept blowing.

VW's a the bottom of the german cars when it comes to reliability. My Mk golfs had loads of problems too. Jap cars can not be beat, Honda all the way.

I may look at a 406 2.2 HDI got goo reviews.
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You're saying a clutch should last longer than 70,000 miles?

Good luck with your french car, I'm sure it will be no trouble at all!
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"Jap cars can not be beat, Honda all the way.

I may look at a 406 2.2 HDI got goo reviews."

That's one of the strangest things I've read on here lol
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I've heard of lots of Mk IV Golf problems. My Passat was OK though
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Anyone else noticed how Mk4 Golf's always have a rear light out?? Everytime I see a Mk4 Golf one of it's rear lights doesn't work.

Have a look - it's madness.
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Originally Posted by NotoriousREV
You're saying a clutch should last longer than 70,000 miles?

Good luck with your french car, I'm sure it will be no trouble at all!

Yes, I'm saying a clutch shouls last longer, my current Mondeo which has been in the family since 15k miles has never had a clutch replaced, the car has now covered 165k miles. We are talking a ford here not German engineering, so in theory the VW's clutch should outlive.
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Originally Posted by fatherpierre
"Jap cars can not be beat, Honda all the way.

I may look at a 406 2.2 HDI got goo reviews."

That's one of the strangest things I've read on here lol
Don't take the pi$$, they have very good reviews, I for one am secptical about french cars, I've had a couple of 306's which were ragged and had head gasket problems, however these were the 1.9 engines. The 2.2HDI is apparently a decent engine.
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