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Old 03 April 2003, 11:23 AM
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Even hairdressers deserve a nice sounding engine

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Engine: V6, 3189cc, 24v
Max power: 250bhp @ 6300rpm
Max torque: 236lb ft @ 3200rpm
0-60mph: 6.4sec (est)
Top speed: 155mph (limited)
Price: £30,000 (est)
On sale: Spring

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Old 03 April 2003, 11:54 AM
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I persoanlly think they are **** poor stats for an enine of that size. Not much up on the 225!

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Old 03 April 2003, 11:58 AM
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True, 0-60 is much the same too.
Old 03 April 2003, 12:06 PM
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Many 225 owners say the same thing. Trouble is the chassis is only rated by Audi to take up to 260BHP. Despite the fact that a few people are putting out about 350 and not having any problems.

Old 03 April 2003, 12:06 PM
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Why would anyone want to pay more for a heavier, less tunable engine, just for the noise??

(0-60 in 6.4 isn't amazing either, I mean, a Skoda could do that!)


Old 03 April 2003, 12:09 PM
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Ianc said
Why would anyone want to pay more for a heavier, less tunable engine, just for the noise??

(0-60 in 6.4 isn't amazing either, I mean, a Skoda could do that!)


Because it has the best sequential gearbox on the market fitted to it.
Old 03 April 2003, 12:13 PM
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I prefer manuals, tho it is very advanced.. but....

Surely that would reflect in the 0-60?

Expected a better figure to be honest. There's one possibly two changes in there, where the trick gearbox should gain seconds over a conventional shift. Discuss
Old 03 April 2003, 01:17 PM
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0-60 figures are bollocks anyway.
Old 03 April 2003, 02:10 PM
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poofters car especially the soft top........nuff said

get a Nissan 350Z
Old 03 April 2003, 02:27 PM
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poofters car especially the soft top........nuff said

get a Nissan 350Z


Another constructive comment. *shakes head*
Old 03 April 2003, 02:48 PM
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Nothing like Scoobynet for quality discussion.

Old 03 April 2003, 03:57 PM
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SO WHAT EXACTLY MAKES A NISSAN MORE BUTCH....

0 - 60 times don't do justice and anyway vag/AUDI 0 - 60 times are always very conservative - they don't do them with a litre of petrol and one adult....

I bet testers get better times - esecially with its trick launch control system..

who said the chassis is only rated to 260 bhp.....
Old 03 April 2003, 05:47 PM
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Ive had a couple of S3, one tuned to 255bhp. My current Golf has the new TT's 3.2. The stats might not say a lot, but the car makes a fully decated Scooby sound like an EVO, and thats with a std exhaust. God knows how it would sound with an aftermarket unit.

Most of the TT boys that knock the 3.2 are envious IMHO. The engine certainly add loads to the driving experience.

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Old 03 April 2003, 10:00 PM
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id have a NA V6 over a force fed 4 any day...
Old 03 April 2003, 10:51 PM
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I'm biased - but why oh why don't people bypass this car, save money, have more presence and better residuals and go for a 986 (Boxster) 3.2...... its much more funs, faster and well BETTER !
After you have spec'd it OK it may cost you more - but hell you'll get htat back when you sell it.........

Am I dumb or what ??


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Old 04 April 2003, 07:34 AM
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Guess most TT drivers would love a Boxster but when you spec it up to the same level even the standard one costs around £10k more. That's a lot of cash for most people.

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Old 04 April 2003, 10:14 AM
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Actually one of the car magazines did a group test with the new TT
Porsche, nissan and something else a few weeks ago and the TT came out top

a spec'd up porsche is one of the worst depreciating cars you can buy and there's a big difference between 30k and 45k
Old 04 April 2003, 02:24 PM
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put it this way, I'm in the trade and know an Audi Salesman pretty good, he reckons most of the TT Cabs he sells are two gay men

this is what he's told me anyway and he's a good salesman and sells plenty of them so he should know
Old 04 April 2003, 02:58 PM
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What does that say about the car?

Are you really so worried about people questioning your sexuality that it would stop you buying a car, are you that insecure?

(ok, I wouldn't buy a pink beetle cabrio, but if there was something I liked I would not let it's image put me off!)

Ian.
Old 04 April 2003, 03:29 PM
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in all seriousness no I would't let that put me off

but if I were to buy a convertible sports car I'd stay clear of cars that have had the roof chopped off and stick to purpose built cars that were designed from the outset as roadsters i.e

MX5, Boxster, S2000, Z3/Z4

do you get my drift, TT Cabs are bought by people who are more intersted in their image/hair styles than wether they have a good car dynamically

The TT coupe is another matter of course
Old 04 April 2003, 08:38 PM
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Just because it doesn't have the same sort as image as an Impreza, which has an image of a "grown up" boy racer.
Doesn't mean its a puffs car!
I like the Impreza and the TT, you buy the cars for different reasons!
The Impreza has more sheer grunt and better handling but has sh!te quality, the TT has an image of style, quality and up marketness.
There different cars, which I would say are aimed at different people, so you have no right to call it a gays car!

What right do u have you homophobic d!ck head!
Didn't know straight men weren't allowed to buy TTs! By the way I'm NOT gay.
Old 05 April 2003, 10:09 AM
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I see more BMW coupe's outside the gay clubs i go to
but i never hear people calling that a gay car. I also see TVR'S scoobs evo's just about every car u can think off - this gay straight thing is complete bollox
Old 05 April 2003, 10:42 AM
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The new gearbox sounds great, instant gear changes without any delay.

Ford are roumered to have one cleared for inclusion in the new Focus line up so expect to see many manufactures following.

The previous clutchess sequentials take at least a couple of weeks to get used to and a couple of months to drive smoothly.
I have one and the only draw back is the changes are not instant, still faster than any standard manual gearbox and driver but in a manual your brain is doing work to change gear while in the clutchless sequential manual you re waiting so it feel longer.
I dont think you could lift power, operate clutch, change gear, release clutch and reaplly power in 300 milliseconds if you were doing it manually.

If you ever try one its a new style of driving, remember how hard a clutch and manual gearbox was when you were learning to drive, well you have to learn again with these boxes, your not going to do it with a test drive.

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Old 06 April 2003, 01:16 PM
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Well said mate! You can't tell the sexuality of someone, by the car they drive. Some people buy cars for different reasons! It doesn't matter what it is sterotypically!
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I didn't say I'd not buy a TT Cab because it was gay just that if I were to buy a soft top it would be one that was designed as a soft top to start with
Old 08 April 2003, 01:34 PM
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Well, Im buying a Golf R32 so am totally biased but:-

R32 is £22,30 and some 8k less then a TT 3.2.

No contest I would have thought but what do I know.

Going to the Golf after an S2000 (great engine but just too frantic and UK classic Scooby). Time will tell if its sh1te or not I guess.
Old 08 April 2003, 02:01 PM
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Im very surprised by the performance figures, and 0-60 does actually count for a lot, the majority of "fun" I have with cars is done from low speeds up to around 80Mph, so it gives a fair reflection of how the thing will go.

I was very unimpressed with the 225 I drove round Mallory Park, and I havent liked the looks in the past, but I must confess they are growing on me.

It seems like they wanted to make it more a performance car by throwing a big engine at it, be interesting to see if steering feel, suspension etc has been succesfully improved, as that could mean a much better car than the 225, and help make it seem worth the extra.
Old 08 April 2003, 02:51 PM
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Steering is the same and the suspension was improved on all TTs around this time last year - 20mm lower Gmbh setup. Brakes are also uprated (RS4 style) on the 3.2.

Trouble is another 100+ kilos for an additional 25BHP doesn't add up to better performance. People who will buy this over the 225 will buy it for the smoother power, exhaust note and the gearbox.

Others will continue to buy the 225 becasue a straight remap can get you an extra 45 or so horses.

Gren
Old 08 April 2003, 03:16 PM
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BHP is half the story, its more about torque I think you will find?
Old 08 April 2003, 04:24 PM
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Okay how about a flat torque curve at 206 (225) which when remapped is closer to 265 or a not so flat (3.2) torque curve that peaks at 225 (ish) but only from around 3-4k.

Peak figures hide a lot.

Both engines are great but for 2 different reasons

Gren

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