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Old 13 July 2015, 11:09 AM
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Default Leaving the Subaru fold-but to what?

To be honest I'm not sure what I want. I've currently got a Hawkeye Spec C Type RA with just over 5000, not a typo, yes, 5000 miles. Now I've had 6 subarus over the last 11 years, 22B, Spec C, RA, WR1 and now I'm looking at something different.

I've toyed with the idea of old skool Ford, Cosworth ESCos, Mk 1 and Mk 2 but just can't see me using it. I'm also thinking C63 AMG (which is where I'm steering towards), R35, but my mate sold his for a new M4 after a few months as he said it's too easy to drive.

A Bentley Continental GT did come into my thoughts but then it's monumentally expensive for bits and services. DB9, hmmmm, not sure.

I've a budget of about £35k, maybe a bit more for the right car.

Help me out!
Old 13 July 2015, 11:20 AM
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997 turbo
Old 13 July 2015, 11:22 AM
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Nissan skyline gtr, always fancied one, but over my budget.

Or escort coswosth, think i'd prefer the Skyline though.


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Don;t buy anything NA and german, will bore the pants off you.

Weekend toy or daily drive?
Old 13 July 2015, 11:34 AM
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http://www.pistonheads.com/classifie...-legal/4203215

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifie...uattro/4446480
Old 13 July 2015, 11:42 AM
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http://www.pistonheads.com/classifie...n-2009/4329606
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AM Vantage or a 997 GTS (might be out of budget).
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That Lotus looks the nuts, incidentally that RS is only about 4 miles from my house. I know the dealer.

Yes, it's a weekend car. Probably no more than 500 miles a year, I only done 90 odd miles in the 22B the year before I sold it.
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raw or some comfort?
Old 13 July 2015, 12:53 PM
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I've not driven a DB9 but understand (for the vintage you're looking at) they're a bit more pipe and slippers than a Vantage.

35K will get you a 4.3V8V, trouble is when you start looking into it you'll want a 4.7, preferably manual.
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
raw or some comfort?
Neither are contributing factors, for the miles I do.
Old 13 July 2015, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by huzzy1
Neither are contributing factors, for the miles I do.
oo the possibilites : lol

35k would get you one rapid scoob if you got one and tuned it?
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What will the car be used for? Commute? Weekend fun? Track?

Bit of background.... I started off in a NA Impreza, soon moved to a 2000 GT (in South Africa), 1996 STi wagon (in the UK) and finally a 2001 bugeye STi (running a little under 400hp). After the last STi, I was ready to give up on modding cars, tested an R8, AM v8 Vantage S, C63 and a couple of others.

Then a friend told me to go and test drive the R35...............
https://www.scoobynet.com/other-marq...issan-gtr.html

Nearly 4 years of ownership and I still love the car. Yes it is easy to go faster in, but getting the most out of it is an art. As an all-rounder its hard to beat, cruise to track, be fastest round, cruise home. I am just back from 2k miles through Europe (motorways, mountain roads, etc) and it managed perfectly (fits loads of baggage, comfortable, easy).

Depending on where in London you are, Im happy to meetup, have a chat, take you out in mine... its currently in for MOT and service (shouldnt be too long). GTROC is at Donnington for Nissan Experience this weekend or ASDA (Charity Day) at Bruntingthorpe in August either would be a good time to go out in a few cars and see what they are capable of.

I keep the GTR for weekends and odd track days, so it stays special for me. I also have a disco for daily and a MX5 (being kitted out now) for track use.
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I'm with the Nissan GTR above, it will appreciated in value as well during the time you have it.

You could also consider the attached.

I don't think it will appreciate in value, but the fact that it is a Bathurst will mean that it won't depreciate as fast.

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifie...--2009/4408139
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996 Turbo, just in your price range. I sold mine some time back and rue the day, great car and not too expensive to run either.
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Originally Posted by Milneragain
I'm with the Nissan GTR above, it will appreciated in value as well during the time you have it.

....
Very good point, the older GTRs are holding value VERY well and some are on the way up! Especially the good ones...

Originally Posted by Paben
996 Turbo, just in your price range. I sold mine some time back and rue the day, great car and not too expensive to run either.
Cayman is also a very very good car, the only negative is the lack of luggage space.

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A Bentley Conti will feel like the USS Nimitz compared to a spec c.
The amount of miles you do, I'd get an old beater and go on an epic World tour.
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C63 and have MSL get it to 700 BHP

the sound of the C63 on full blast is deafening and so mega i want 1
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Only drove them for a few miles each on a Supercar day but I found that the V8 Vantage felt a world away from the DB9. The 9 felt very much like a mile muncher and although the Vantage is still a heavy lump itself, it felt so much more alive. I'm not sure either car would be my weapon of choice for a weekend toy though. If minimal weekend mileage is likely then I'd be having a close look at Atom's, Exiges and other similar things!
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Originally Posted by grahamc
What will the car be used for? Commute? Weekend fun? Track?

Bit of background.... I started off in a NA Impreza, soon moved to a 2000 GT (in South Africa), 1996 STi wagon (in the UK) and finally a 2001 bugeye STi (running a little under 400hp). After the last STi, I was ready to give up on modding cars, tested an R8, AM v8 Vantage S, C63 and a couple of others.

Then a friend told me to go and test drive the R35...............
https://www.scoobynet.com/other-marq...issan-gtr.html

Nearly 4 years of ownership and I still love the car. Yes it is easy to go faster in, but getting the most out of it is an art. As an all-rounder its hard to beat, cruise to track, be fastest round, cruise home. I am just back from 2k miles through Europe (motorways, mountain roads, etc) and it managed perfectly (fits loads of baggage, comfortable, easy).

Depending on where in London you are, Im happy to meetup, have a chat, take you out in mine... its currently in for MOT and service (shouldnt be too long). GTROC is at Donnington for Nissan Experience this weekend or ASDA (Charity Day) at Bruntingthorpe in August either would be a good time to go out in a few cars and see what they are capable of.

I keep the GTR for weekends and odd track days, so it stays special for me. I also have a disco for daily and a MX5 (being kitted out now) for track use.

Definately not commute, I work 180 miles from home. Many thanks for the offer, however, I have now moved from London to the West Country.

It would just be a weekend car, and maybe the odd track day. The more I am thinking about it a R35 seems to where I am swaying towards. Reading through the first few pages of that thread and for a few grand the power you can extract is unbelievable. Probably quite handy I'm not too far from Litchfields either. If I was doing 1000 miles a year what would be typical running costs? Say an annual service at Litchfields?
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Originally Posted by huzzy1
Definately not commute, I work 180 miles from home. Many thanks for the offer, however, I have now moved from London to the West Country.

It would just be a weekend car, and maybe the odd track day. The more I am thinking about it a R35 seems to where I am swaying towards. Reading through the first few pages of that thread and for a few grand the power you can extract is unbelievable. Probably quite handy I'm not too far from Litchfields either. If I was doing 1000 miles a year what would be typical running costs? Say an annual service at Litchfields?
Ouch, thats one hell of a commute!!! If you get serious about the R35, post up on the GTR forum, I know a few owners out that way that would happily take you out.

With that sort of mileage, I would be going classic (Z car, hakosuka, old porsche - though budget might be an issue, etc) or something silly like an Atom or a Zenos (went out and tested one of these..... they are a little daft ).

Not sure, I have never actually done just a service......... I think about £2-300 for just the service (if not Nissan). Can definitely get to around 600hp for 2-2.5k, less if you buy a few used parts.

Tyres and brakes are the big expense, but if you are reasonable decent with them, they do last quite a while
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http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/ariel/n...l-nomad-review

And some waterproofs.

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Noble M400

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifie...e-m400/4446511

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifie...l-m400/4182387
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I know someone with one and he has had nothing but problems... and the latest is the gearbox. Nice looking car though.

A question...... is it really worth spending £35k on a car for 1000 miles per year? What about a car club or just renting a different car?
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Originally Posted by grahamc
I know someone with one and he has had nothing but problems... and the latest is the gearbox. Nice looking car though.

A question...... is it really worth spending £35k on a car for 1000 miles per year? What about a car club or just renting a different car?


Oh right tbh I have no idea on reliability etc, but I imagine they are expensive to fix.


Good performing car tho - when It works I guess
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Originally Posted by grahamc
I know someone with one and he has had nothing but problems... and the latest is the gearbox. Nice looking car though.

A question...... is it really worth spending £35k on a car for 1000 miles per year? What about a car club or just renting a different car?
The thing is I get bored very easily, strange as it sounds I'm happy looking at the car in the garage or cleaning it. I'm putting mine up for sale at the beginning of August as I have 5 weeks off work then so if it sells I have plenty of time to find a decent GTR.

I need to join the forum I think and see what is on there as I'd rather buy off an enthusiast.
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CSL?

Prices are rocketing and not a bad steer either if i believe what im told (although not going to be fast in a straighline)

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Originally Posted by scoobyc
CSL?

Prices are rocketing and not a bad steer either if i believe what im told
compared to the others mentioned its gonna be boring, not much of a step up from a standard e46 despite what people will claim
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Originally Posted by CutMasterT
Oh right tbh I have no idea on reliability etc, but I imagine they are expensive to fix.


Good performing car tho - when It works I guess
Its the only one I know of, so might just be the owner and the way they drive but agree, good performance!

Originally Posted by huzzy1
The thing is I get bored very easily, strange as it sounds I'm happy looking at the car in the garage or cleaning it. I'm putting mine up for sale at the beginning of August as I have 5 weeks off work then so if it sells I have plenty of time to find a decent GTR.

I need to join the forum I think and see what is on there as I'd rather buy off an enthusiast.
I can understand that, I think its because you are spending £30k and not using it

Hahaa, I know people that have been looking for 3-4 months

In all seriousness, a nice R34 (most are on the up in value) wouldnt be bad. All depends on you though, if you would prefer something newer and dont mind spending the money, the GTR isnt a bad buy. 2011 car is the sweet spot IMHO, I have a 2010 and spent a bit on changing little things that are all standard on the 2011 car. 2010 & 2011 are doing well with prices, holding very well.

In fact, I know of white 2010 car that will be up for sale shortly, 1 owner from new around 30k miles, white, slightly modded, but not silly - only selling due to baby. He wants to tidy up a few things and change the exhaust (currently well over 110DB - very loud).

White R35 in pics below (this is after 2000 miles in Europe, so excuse the rear end..... mine was worse and I washed it )



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